@Kamikaz said in Web interface for Suunto App: @jean-william-cousin I may have missed some fine point but I think the issue might be that it is not implicit in the announcement that there will be a web app for desktops. It reads like the ONLY way to upload data will be via a smartphone app and the ONLY way to view those data will be via a smartphone app. In essence…no desktop. I put that question to the Suunto tech support on the telephone. They replied that the smartphone app will be the only way to upload data, ie. I will not be able to use a desktop or laptop as I do now with Movescount. I really hope Suunto changes their mind on this. I don’t own a smartphone and will not buy one merely to support my Ambit3.

@jean-william-cousin It works, thank you very much Jean!!!

@Brad_Olwin said in sample set movescount.com uploads Jan.15 by device family: perhaps your watch will be supported. thanks for valuable comment Brad emphasizes on “perhaps” , if you bought an Ambit3 yesterday and today Suunto tell you it “perhaps” will be supported beyond next summer it’s not only my opinion (beyond the many similar concerns form user here past days) that this is unacceptable furthermore in US and Europe an regulatory requirement by federal agencies and render illegal and against the law for consumer protection statutes and breach of the implied warranty, nothing legally left to debate or to discuss - full stop good luck in tinkering with the law and starts discussion with federal agencies in multiple jurisdictions, think they will start laughing at you if you come with opening statement “perhaps we might fulfill our regulatory obligations …” Suunto just lost an class action law suit for their dive computers in US about accuracy of dive pressure sensor (http://www.suuntodivecomputersettlement.com/), they didn’t go to an US court and fight in through, no - they settled and denied wrongdoing… so at least they understand what regulatory requirements mean, and by the way their layer didn’t start with “perhaps” last comment: I would expect from a forum moderator a bit more customer emphasizes and being a voice for the effected and concerned user rather then defending the mess and opposing against a worried and voiced out customer here but probably this forum is not the right place for it…

@mfischer01 said in Open source Movescount web: The problem is that openambit only READS data from the device. I cannot be used to push routes, settings, etc. to the watch. Therefore the USB protocol should be published open source so that we can add that functionality to openambit. This is not quite true. There hasn’t been tagged releases for a long time, so you might want to check out master & pull requests on github. Though it doesn’t change the fact that there might be few holes in openambit implementation. All intellectual property donations, be it source code or official documentation, would be highly appreciated.

@radlwadl said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin: But concerning Ambit2 and all other older watches I think “Alea iacta est” - decisions are made, because it’s fundamental: Suunto strategy is to support bluetooth link only. I think the the Suunto strategy is to reduce the development and maintenance of software that is not making money. The owner of Suunto, Amer Sports is also the owner of Sport Tracker. So they are just doing the minimum : an App. Then, they will force allow you to use other third parties application such as Sport Tracker. They just forget something, the freedom of the users they provided earlier. They are reducing it by providing less features than before. Also, as an embedded software developper and a user of an Ambit3 Peak, the use of both Bluetooth and USB link should be kept. In fact, Bluetooth is a wireless technology that have it pros and cons but I can say that it’s really helpful to have a cable link to avoid a stucking issue. I already had this kind of issue while syncing a move between my mobile and my Ambit3. The only way to get the move was to use the USB cable and moveslink. So, Suunto, be aware of what you are doing, even if you think your tests cover every use cases. My expectations of Suunto company were rather the improvements of the mobile app and the web application to provide better experience for the users. I think that Suunto have the best hardware but is missing the turn of software application (web based and mobile). This kind of feature can attract new users and keep the old ones. Hope this will be heard by Suunto

@Brad_Olwin @DmitryKo @sartoric …let’s stop bluffing and call it what the SuuntoApp(SA) really is: SportsTracker 1.1 consisting of SportsTracker 1.0 plus a rushed out (juosten kustu) Suunto device sync client added with some tuned up bits&pieces for the Suunto3 Fitness watch. There market players eying for device independent code platforms or/and using Universal/ProgressiveWebApps, Suunto decided to re-vitalize SportsTracker - a 16 year old codebase from 2003 - that was originally intended to utilize your mobile device along the inbuilt phone sensors (GPS, magnetic compass, accelerometer) as an activity tracker and first launched on Nokia’s S60 symbian platform that is long gone. Or as a Finnish saying goes: “vanha viini uusissa pulloissa” (aka: old wine in new bottles) Sports Tracker was never engineered to be an sync client for an feature rich sport instrument like your Suunto watch nor an complementary mobile companion app for an award winning web service like movescount.com They didn’t even go to great length to conceal the visual and UI workflow similarities between the two apps (see below for an sbs comparison) and as well the quirky workout statistics Sports Tracker computes from your data ( example: 00.00.05 faster as before on any route" -> for an indoor strenght training ) What Suunto needs is the mature web platform movescount.com going forward and a re-developed Mobile Movescount app with state of the art technologies and a future looking system design adequate for the needs of an mobile client in 2020 and beyond. That explicitly includes full compatibility (only insane people would have excluded this in the first place) with existing devices in use today by tens of thousands of users and added support for newer and to be released devices (as deliberately excluded since Aug 2018 from Movescount.com customization pages) Anything else will bring Suunto in a much weaker position that even threatens their existence in 2020, seeing the over 200 comments just in the past 4 days here in the forum of concerned user who are considering to leave Suunto as a brand and their products in regards for their Jan.15 announcement to terminate movescount.com and the movecount mobile app and go mobile only via the Sports Tracker derivate named Suunto App. …

For those with A3 devices, I would wait a bit, you have 1.5 years and I suspect that more will become clearer in the coming weeks.

@DmitryKo said in I propose a class action to Suunto: No. They said they will discontinue the Movescount service in favour of the Suunto App, and the app will not support watches that do not have Bluetooth. So these will be bricked the next day. It’s as simple as that. No small text disclaimers attached. Interesting. I was reading the Finnish version, which says “…are not compatible…”. In the english version it says “…will not be compatible…” So I guess you are right. It’s a subtle difference but leaves no room for imagination.

App crashes everytime I open an activity with GPS data It also didn’t sync most of the activities in the watch (55 errors of 81), and took forever for each one. app 1.5 iOS 12.1.2 iPhone 6

I agree with lots of the points made here, as an Ambit 3 Vertical user. Fair enough Suunto might want to put all their efforts into building new things. But why not at least leave the current environment as it is? It works really well for a lot of people. Why not leave it switched on, even if unsupported, until 2030 instead of 2020?

@Droro as said before it was in Adnroid, the new UI removed it.

@Gabriel-S said in Ambit2 - spell it out for me...: Hello on Linux based OS, a software called openambit can extract file from the ambit2 serie. Maybe someone can convert it to works on windows OS… Based on that there is also an android app to do thé job of extraction. Ambit Connect.

@miniping keep me posted please

@ink357 There is no website, here is a link for an invitation to the beta test program, which is what most of us use here and here

@Brad_Olwin Hi Brad, Oh definitely. I’ll give it a go. I do know right now though that route planning is not an option on a smart phone. I use an Ordnance Survey map, satellite photos and movescount to plot new routes. Land in the UK is not open access and where possible, I do try to stick to public rights of way. I wouldn’t be able to do this on a smart phone. Kind regards Tom

@Chris-Schulz said in Ambit 3 Sport: We understand you dont have the information and cannot clarify. What is disturbing is the following: That suunto clearly does not have a well thought out road map Suunto has really low expectations of its user base There must be something preventing the seemingly easy migration of code from one app to the other. (copyright? law suit?) Suunto has a bad marketing plan. A huge percentage of its user base are angry and confused. For #1: How do you know this? I don’t and neither does @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos or he cannot say. This is pure speculation on your part because you have not seen it. #2: What do you mean low expectations? #3 There is 1.5y to implement features and functionality that the user base needs and wants. Suunto is listening… #4: I agree with the second part and I think they (Suunto) will be more forthcoming. For now all of your devices work and NOTHING has changed except that you know Movescount is going to be shut down…that is it. In that time all major sports watch manufacturers will have new devices. There are multiple ways to aid users of legacy devices.

@29decibel If you search the forum for “structured workout” you’re gonna open the pandora’s box

Thank you, I couldn’t find it until you posted the picture! A fine addition to the app. It has also made me wonder what else I cannot see as I have no clue what I ma looking for