@Sascha-Domres makes sense, I get your point but it is more like I would buy Coros Apex 4 or similar and go to their community and start complaining that they do not support “tags” on activities and I am so dissapointed in all they do

@André-Faria It is hard to claim warranty for this. The watch restarts randomly. My seller says: the fault did not appear.

@dreamer_ said: Btw, It seems I can count 3 mayor betas in 2026 (splitted in 15 minor announced versions only this year). It is not the same release calendar/features as for the supported watches, but the bug fixes are there (even for Garmin). It is also more than nothing. Yeah, on paper it sounds good, but essentially each version had some serious issues for some people. Always the question of “Should I really upgrade beyond version …?” in the forums. I understand Suunto is focused in the new watches but it’s also a lot of time a watch like the Vertical is forgotten with the remaining bugs. And, when bugs, this can be a very bad image of the brand for the users that have the watch. Reminds me on Nokia and its N9, where they pushed a final update eliminating most of the bugs (over 1000 IIRC) before pulling the (support) plug. I also feel that is the right thing to do.

@mickywickyftw I don’t see how ZS adds anything that you don’t get with HR anyway. For me it is just too inaccurate. I wanted to know how ZS actually performs and analyzed 150 runs and rides that I all did as Suunto recommends for ZS. While the mean reported thresholds over all workouts come very close to my actual thresholds, the standard deviation is at 9 bpms for the aerobic and at 7 bpm for the anaerobic threshold. So therefore on normal runs or rides, I get fluctuations of up to ±9 and ±6 bpm respectively and I never know when it is accurate or not. I had workouts where ZS told me that I am pushing way too hard but my HR was as usual and I was able to do the workout/race exactly as planned. I also had it the other way around. If I would have listened to ZS, I would have had a lot of destroyed workouts or races. From years of racing and training, I know that my HR never differs more than ±2 bpm at the anaerobic threshold and ±4 at the aerobic threshold if I am not completely destroyed or sick. So therefore HR and pace in combination with RPE is way more reliable. At least for me.

I need the link to the activities and the planned routes to report this, send them to me in private.

Since Suunto still shows no meaningful response and reports of Nautic issues keep piling up, I have now reported the Nautic through the European product safety system as a potentially dangerous product. Given the false mandatory gas-time alarms and other incorrect dive data, I think an independent safety review is overdue. I’ll keep you updated. [image: 1786372833520-screenshot-2026-08-10-164007.png]

Looks great in my Suunto 9 peak pro [image: 1786262740019-1000295463.jpg]

@tm3610 said: Any idea if there are rumors of a new Run or smaller, budget variant? IMHO a Run 2 and a Race S successor is to come in the next months. The real question is when…

@Elipsus Ultimately, it doesn’t really matter. According to Suunto’s specifications, the Core 1 watch could be used at depths of up to 10 meters. You can even use the buttons underwater. This has been tested many times without damaging the watch. Whereas, according to these specifications, the Core 2 can be used at depths of up to 2 meters only. So, it’s a hardware downgrade. This was confirmed in an email exchange with Suunto support.

@isazi Yeah, let’s hope they implement it as soon as possible.

If anyone sent logs after the activity, send me a DM with the email associated with your account.

@HonzaS same behavior I saw for my reboots. Immediately following or during a watch notified phone call

@shakra2005 Ja, das geht - jeder Bluetooth Herzfrequenz Sensor funktioniert, also auch z.b. die von Polar und Coros. Deren Oberarmsensoren sind sehr beliebt. Zu Zonesense gibt es eine lange Diskussion. Für mich funktioniert es nicht für andere schon. Deine anaerobe Schwelle kannst Du auch durch Tests abschätzen und dann die Herzfrequenz Zonen danach einstellen

@BokiRun In terms of heart rate, I have no complaints about the RUN. I compared it with a Polar H9 during a vigorous workout, and it was flawless.

@OutdoorMan Yes, but Resume later is requested here a long time and nothing did happen. At least now there is the possibility with Apps and volunteers like Joaqin. Better than nothing for sure

@Steven-Hambleton Well, I guess a sync back to the watch after a trim could be implemented to keep the values in sync. But at the moment everything is better than having a run in your stats with a 30min car drive afterwards or whatever.

Wow, Dark Mode looks great! Now I can check my Runs in the Night without getting blind

@Goatee Suunto reached out to me via email asking for more information (watch serial number, app version, etc.). I sent them the deets, so I’ll see where things go from there. Hopefully we can isolate the bug and get it fixed.

@SergioB Thanks! Just tried it on a test walk and it works perfectly. I didn’t realise you could change navigation while in an activity. It worked fine changing navigation from a route to the newly created POI. Thanks, Richard

@jj-frl Some of Suuntoplus app could be the solution for you question 1. Wheather, timer, sun, moon = sure. Steps, temperature im not sure