@Stoke80 I have been using Karoo 3 for a year, and before that I was in the Garmin 840 and Fenix 7 ecosystem for several years. Currently, I also have a Suunto Vertical 1, but who knows, maybe after a year I will switch from Suunto to Coros to check it out. Suunto isn’t perfect, but as an outdoor and running watch, it definitely has better features than Garmin and faster, smoother navigation when there’s a descent or an ascent, marked in color on the map on the track. Awesome. Coros, on the other hand, tempts me to try something new. As for the integration of Suunto and Karoo - everything is there, except for calorie synchronization. It’s a bit fucked up, because it’s just an additional field, but Suunto doesn’t suck it in from Karoo. Even if you manually enter it into a synchronized activity in Suunto, those calories are not counted, as if they weren’t there at all. Completely pointless. I don’t understand this selective integration. Karoo 3 works much faster than Garmin 840. It’s like comparing pure Android with a sluggish phone that’s several years old. If you’re in the Garmin ecosystem, stay there. If you want something new, try Karoo 3.

@Manuel-Extreme said in I’m waiting for…: Let’s slow down a bit. I think I understand the misunderstanding. I’m not criticizing the excellent work of the people who are directly involved in building a great outdoor product, within an iconic company that competes against giants with revenues 100 times higher. On the contrary, full respect and appreciation. As a user, I’m simply looking forward to a new firmware update so I can fully enjoy my device with new features and bug fixes, especially considering the last update was almost three months ago. I think others in the community are also eagerly waiting for the next updates I think I got your message right from the beginning. But the update issue ran a bit out of control in the last months, with that I mean with not adequate posts and statements. You should be part of the mature users here. For my part, I appreciate some of your latests posts (just a thank you at this place). So take it easy if your post is misunderstood.

@Nandodiver said in In Backcountry skiing it sucks!!!: @Brad_Olwin 220 minus age that’s the official method largely used for more than 30 years More recently in 2023 some endurance athletes start using the “Nes formula” 220 minus age: 220 - 60 = 160 bpm Nes formula: 211 - (0.64 × 60) = 211 - 38.4 ≈ 173 bpm Most of those formulas are poor, it does not matter how long they have been used. Typically the subjects the formulas are based on are sedentary or do not exercise much. Second, max HR is highly genetically determined and variable. For me the formulas give numbers that would severely negatively impact my training. Max HR should be determined by training if possible. There have been many posts here and I see on Apple forums where individuals are exercising for 60 min or more in Z5.

@nandodiver hi. i have two questions. does Suunto nautic s support 3D dive map sharing like in suunto Ocean? lastly, would you prefer it to the Garmin Descent G2? thanks

@Squirrel Thank you! So I will charge it inside from now on.

I’ve also noticed a kinda rare 10 minute delayed alarm on the Vertical 2. One time I was already awake and was curious why the alarm didn’t go off and eventually it went off with a 10 minute delay. (The alarm was set for the correct time)

@Horizontal_2 That initial steep decline is probably related to charging without charging. The current cycle does not show a similar steep discharge at the beginning. Basically, I am currently satisfied with the consumption/battery life of the watch. I have had the watch for 1 year, but it was purchased second-hand. The original owner claimed that he had only used the watch for a few months.

@aiv4r Here’s hoping that includes us lowly Suunto Run users…we didn’t get the Vertical Week watchface for some reason neither…

Suunto please look into this. Give an option to turn off buzz on connect maybe? I’m getting a bunch on my new PP9 and seem to have no reason for them. Supper wasn’t helpful

My run today was spot on. Used the Run with the Coros HRM and it was exactly the same as the Polar chest strap. Before I had followed the suggestions and uninstalled and reinstalled the app. So it does seem that at least for this run it has eliminated the spiking. However it has been mentioned in previous posts that uninstalling and reinstalling the app solved the problem each time in occured suggesting it is a temporary fix and not a permanent solution. It also doesn’t alter the data that is already present and incorrect from previous runs so I do believe it’s an issue Suunto need to look into.

@Manuel-Extreme

Apologies if this isn’t the right topic to be posting this issue but it is certainly pertinent to the use of external HR sensors with the Suunto Run. Putting aside the issues i have had with the Coros armband which i have posted about in that specific topic i have also experienced issues when using a chest strap. The HR graph normally looks absolutely fine as expected but i am usually given a different max heart rate in the run summary. [image: 1772494841112-screenshot_2026-02-22-18-21-23-970_com.stt.android.suunto.jpg] [image: 1772494883386-screenshot_2026-02-22-18-21-44-133_com.stt.android.suunto.jpg] This example is from a run where i chucked in three sprints and as the graph shows my heart rate doesn’t go above 180 which is inline with what i expect for the effort. With a chest strap the Heart rate summary seems to always be different to the graph. What’s odd is when using a chest strap, which works perfectly with my other watches, i get this max heart rate discrepancy and the synced data in Strava will show a mix of the correct max heart rate which is reflected in the Suunto produced graph or it will show what i’m sure is the incorrect max heart figure as produced in the Suunto app summary. There seems to be something going on here with the relationship between watch and external sensors and how the data is all displayed within the app. Is this something seen before on Suunto or unique to how they process the data? My experience with Suunto only extends to the use of the Suunto Run having used Garmin for years.

@sky-runner oh you are right! sorry, my bad, I thought there was an app for segments Hope you get some answers!

@Ray-de-Jager I did pair again after the update… and dived. But now it has forgotten the POD after deep sleep. @voigas Yes, the POD must have pressure to turn on. The EON pairs auto, always (this time also)… I stille use the EON as a backup (which turned out to be a good decision on this dive). It is just a software bug i the Nautic… either in loading config or in re-scan for the POSs after turned on if the POD is in the config - and if the POD is not present then give a Warning POD not found! (This might be good if someone has forgot to turn on the air on, also!) I guess that it will be solved soon…

@mdavis121212 said in Using Suunto Progress: @Brad_Olwin Well I wanted to do Mt Rainer but that’s not going to happen at my age. lol. I want to go faster at Century rides. Why Not!!! I have skied Rainier but many, many years ago. I am nearly as old as you, 69. I have a 100 mile race with 23,000 feet vertical gain in June. I am not letting my age dictate what I can do. I would develop a good training plan for riding or get a coach if you need to. There is no reason you cannot build your fitness. So some good goals.

@Finnjf That sounds pretty conclusive…and it’s interesting that you have had the Vertical 2. Can you confirm the distances recorded on the Vertical 2 showed no shortening of distance and performed as well as your other devices and measuring wheel in this regard? I have a Race 2 being delivered tomorrow and I’m going to run a 12k at the weekend and wear my Forerunner 265 at the same time for comparison- I’ll post my findings on here afterwards. If after a few runs it is always short, I may return it and get the Vertical 2 instead.

@Christoph-Van-Laethem In here the bubble appears : https://www.suunto.com/fr-fr/Assistance/ I realized that the bubble doesn’t come on when using my main browser (Firefox), probably due to the ad blockers I added, so i use Edge only for Suunto support

@Christoph-Van-Laethem said in Styd update Sync Vertical 2: linking the Stryd is not always possible: it keeps asking for the crank length OMG, this is still not resolved? Good thing I abandoned the idea of getting Stryd.

@pavel.samokha said in Sports Tracker on Apple Watch: app crashes when taking a break while following a route: I transmitted it to developers Thanks Pavel

@Philip A €100 watch can display many metrics, but that doesn’t mean the data quality is comparable. More numbers do not necessarily mean better measurement. We don’t know exactly which computational models Suunto uses on the Vertical 1. Sleep and HRV algorithms are strongly tied to the hardware, especially to the OHR sensor and signal quality. The Vertical 2 uses different hardware and a different optical heart rate sensor. It is plausible that any algorithmic evolutions are designed around the newer sensor and are not backward compatible with the Vertical 1. For this reason, realistically, it is difficult to expect major new implementations on the V1. Future developments are more likely to focus on the newer hardware platform. The price of the device is not the decisive factor. The hardware architecture is. EDIT: From the photos, the Suunto Ocean sensor appears to be the same as the one in the Vertical 1, and the Ocean does report deep, REM, and light sleep stages. So, in theory, the Vertical could inherit those features. That said, I may be oversimplifying. Even if the hardware looks similar, firmware architecture, signal processing, and model calibration can differ significantly between devices.