Hello! Having the issue since last 2.56.18 - about weeek and something Obviously there is a critical software bug but have no ode why it is still not fixed for such long time, in my view such critical problems should be resolved in a day or at least two but not weeks…

@duffman19 So I tried first with a short stretching activity. Delete from SA, log out of SA, login again, resync and it showed the activity again. However. doing so with my long run, seems to not resync although it’s still on the watch (at least showing on the watch. I noticed. Daily HR, steps, resources are all in SA including the activity time. But GPS and activity stats are not. Would be great to ad Fit/json manualy Back into SA. That’s possible? Is it possible json and fit files are deleted if you uninstal SA?? Would be an explanation I can’t find them on my phone anymore.

@Thorlap71 Personally, I haven’t tried it. Someone I spoke to did it and I still haven’t received an update from him on whether it had any effect.

@duffman19 Thank you, curiously, the navigation still worked exactly. But it makes sense what you explain. Thank you

Regarding step counts, I still think for those who are highly focused on that, getting a waist-based model will likely give better overall accuracy that the majority of watches and is fairly inexpensive. Here’s a quick article to show the style I mean: https://www.verywellfit.com/best-pedometers-4159148 I know people who do activities like knitting or drumming that would get a lot of “accidental steps” if relying on any wrist based model. My own attitude is simpler — steps cannot tell me intensity of effort. The other day I did 5082 steps for one activity, which was a walking effort of 5km with average HR of 92bpm. Then another day I did another 5km effort doing track intervals (100m x 10) which was less steps 4461 but higher average HR of 154bpm. If I were only looking at steps, the second effort seems “weaker” which is the complete opposite result of my own analysis. Of course, the walking session was good for recovery, while the intervals was just a general intense workout. And today we have thunderstorms outside, and while I’ll get a decent amount of steps just going through the house, my primary workout today will be a rowing session which technically is “zero steps,” and yesterday was an hour long cycling workout that also was “zero steps”. Now I know in the Polar ecosystem they have a feature where they can give you “step equivalents” for things like that, but I dislike that system.

@Sascha-Domres makes sense, I get your point but it is more like I would buy Coros Apex 4 or similar and go to their community and start complaining that they do not support “tags” on activities and I am so dissapointed in all they do

@Mads-Hintz-Madsen this is how fused direction works. If you’re moving, direction is taken from GPS heading, not from compass. Compass is used when stationary.

I reported this, it seems a backend/app issue of some kind because it affects watches with all firmware versions. Let me know if it happens again next week (it happened to me on Friday), but I believe it should be fixed soon.

I’ve noticed that significant battery drain is caused by the 24/7 heart rate monitoring mode. Previously, the watch would measure heart rate every 3 to 5 minutes; however, after the software update, it monitors continuously—24/7—without any breaks unless you take the watch off your wrist.

@snow had it from May last year & until June this year it was fab, no issues whatsoever. Just since June the issues seem to have been. Updated the app, software, etc, used S+, not used S+, but seems no pattern

@Tamás-Tompa, it wasn’t done in past years, I really doubt that they’ll do something now.

@Brad_Olwin I always run 2-3 days after races. Only for all-out Marathons, I take two weeks off. My HR is not really influenced by these races. It is not more than the usual ±4 bpms during easy runs at aerobic LT. Of course my legs are tired and the muscular effort feels way higher for the pace but HR is the same for the speed that I run. I would be then not able to run for long time at my LT but due to fatigue. HR is then still in the expected corridor for that pace. Only experienced strong deviations of LT HR at return to sport after stronger infections like COVID and always the first 3 days of winter training camp on the canarien islands. There my body is always completely overwhelmed by the sudden 25°C temperature difference. SZ though told me so many times, I would be way above or below my threshold even though RPE, HR, and pace was exactly as expected. During the training camp SZ always told me that my Real-Time effort should be way higher. No way that I could ever run under that sudden higher temps at that HR which was close to my 1k all-out HR. Real-Time effort does not work at all for me, while average reported thresholds over more than hundred activities come close.

@Mff73 Thanks, I’ll test it again. With every long press I should come back a view. Understood! As with Maps Zoom . But in fact I always came back a level but never again to the initial overview of the complete altitude curve of the complete route.

@Klaas Can you upload the dives log file (json) to Claude AI and ask Claude the simple question why the algorithm deviation occurred? Can you let us know the response?

@GiPFELKiND said: @johann.fuehrer thank you! I will try this ️ I always clean my Suunto watches like every week with normal soap, old hand brush. Daily just with water only after training. Looks like new

@isazi LOL! Damn you Jay!

@SergioB Thanks! Just tried it on a test walk and it works perfectly. I didn’t realise you could change navigation while in an activity. It worked fine changing navigation from a route to the newly created POI. Thanks, Richard

@zt_zzzzz Thanks, right now I don’t have an ambit 2, if someone wants to spend sometime sending my some files about them I will happilly integrate. Edit: first release https://github.com/skinnie/sommet/releases

Seems like the old thread got resurrected. My expectations are the same - to get the software more polished. I use map, navigation, and climb guidance features very extensively - every week, sometimes multiple times per week. In my opinion it continues to be a mess. Almost none of this stuff works flawlessly - that is unless you use these features in the most most basic and straightforward way. There is a large number of quirks and bugs, and unfineshed rough edges. I could easily make a list of probably 10-15 issues that I continue to hit on every long run including: The watch not following the navigation route as planned and jumping from one part of the route to another Navigation direction reversing - almost guaranteed at a turn-around. Also often the route is reversed right from the start. Climb guidance switching direction (going right to left), swapping colors (green for uphill), or just plainly not working correctly and showing me on an uphill segment while I and descending Climb guidance zooming working incorrectly or event refusing to zoom Light blue navigation arrows not being visible Off-route notifications when I am not off route and the watch shows me right on top of the route The above is what I could remember in a few minutes, but there are many more issues. If someone at Suunto took a comprehensive look at this area of functionality and made sure it offers a more polished and reliable experience for trail runners, with all features completed and working correctly, this would be the best thing for me to have in the next update. But in the last almost 2 years of owning 3 different Suunto watches I am continuously frustrated by the lack of improvement in these core areas of functionality. The only reason I continue using a Suunto watch is because there are no significantly better alternatives from competitors.