I used this for the first time today on my Vertical 1 and had this display issue. [image: 1783561695065-img_1781.jpeg]

2.14 (2026-07-07) The heart-rate zone bar and trend chart now react right away in workouts without speed data — indoor sessions, or while waiting for a GPS fix — where they could previously lag behind by a couple of minutes. The view you selected stays selected after lap and other watch overlays, and the trend keeps averaging smoothly through them. Shows – instead of STABLE until there is enough data to judge your effort. Also, I’ve spammed 30+ manual laps and cycled through screens like mad and all is stable as a rock. Just didn’t manage to breake the app or the watch.

Thank you for this, this is certainly a step up for strength training experience on Suunto. And good point on N.B. regarding the touchscreen! I had a senior moment and forgot that you need to access custom battery mode for it

Hey guys! If anyone faced up with issue when S+ app turn black and disconnect from the app. could you please try latest 1.8 R9 (it should be in the suunto store already) and let me know if it works also i can confirm that it wont work alongside with structured workouts structured workout also quite greedy of heap mem. live.τ too.

Ok, I see… Thanks for the explanation.

An app like this would be super useful for planning longer ultramarathons on trails where the terrain is always variable. I did a similar plan many times where I try to come up with a target time for each aid station on the race course and then during the race see how I perform against that - whether I am ahead or behind the plan. The main problem is that as long as segments are based on distances, they aren’t going to be accurate and often deviate towards the end of the race. Perhaps for officially measured road races distances are accurate, but for trail races they are usually not. Towards the end of a race, distance that you have on your watch can easy be up to 5% off from the official distance, depending how accurately the official race distance was measured. Often, tace officials just use distance from CalTopo or other online mapping tool, and that is often way too short. It would be super nice if segments were defined by waypoints on the navigation route and if Suunto supported an extension of navigation route that allows including timestamps. That would allow building on the estimated pacing plan right into the navigation route. Garmin does actually have that and the Pace Pro feature utilizes that, and some 3rd part tools like Ultrapacer can generate a plan that can be loaded on a Garmin watch. I think a feature like this should be built-in, or at least have some built-in support - like an ability to load a timed GPX (GPX with relative timestamps) and tell you how much you are ahead of behind when following the route. Then more advanced apps could be built on top of that.

@SergHi ioB I have exactly the same issue!!

@mickywickyftw thanks for the update, I’ll try this week hopefully (on the same road, to compare). One suggestion could be to wait for a few more seconds when the slope reduces before using standard formula (I totally ignore if there are mathematics models behind this, just intuition and probably hard to calibrate). I mean we are still fast for a while when the grade drops from -4% to -2% for example.

@stavrogin - Third party own the data that is displayed on their imported workouts on Suunto, for TP there’s this ER idea to add the step counter, feel free to vote for it. https://peaksware.uservoice.com/forums/106657-trainingpeaks-customer-feedback/suggestions/46005451-interval-counter-on-suunto-s-structured-workouts Adding to my previous post, after disabling the auto lap, you can setup your own screens to see avg numbers for whatever metric you want and it’ll be for that step of the workout. But definitely you cannot see what step you’re on with TP workouts, until TP implements above idea. On your question about undoing a manual lap, it’s not possible, and when doing a manual lap while executing a workout from TP or any other place, it’ll skip the current step. This is by design and cannot be altered. With that said, Training Peaks has the best screen for executing structured works, the only missing piece is the step count in my opinion

@Francesco-Pagano I’ve tried it today on a run with a steep climb and a long descent (too steep for me to run in any case). I may be wrong but my understanding was that ideally you should try to stay in the ‘Hold’ zone regardless of steepness - ie a steady sustainable level of effort. If it goes to ‘Push’ then I think you have let the level of effort drift down (and vice versa - ‘Ease’ probably means you are pushing too hard to sustain for long). I found I could usually stay in the ‘Hold’ position whether running on the less steep sections or walking hard on the unrunnable portions. On the long descent I found by pushing hard I could just about stay there - easing off quickly dropped to ‘Push’ I felt like I’d had a strong run and it encouraged me to keep trying and not drift off admiring the scenery. I suspect this is aimed at race pace sessions up to perhaps middle distance? I don’t think it’s intended for Z2 long runs for example. One thing I don’t understand is the score in the app afterwards - is this the % of the session spent in ‘Hold’?

@Thibault-B. I’m really excited to use this watchface, as a new Suunto user. Can you please explain this like I’m 5? Lol I have the watchface on my watch now (I think). What are the steps to starting to use it? Warm up on my own, and then start an interval? Or is it all one workout? Sorry for the elementary question here, but I’m so frustrated with the current interval screens on Suunto and I’m so excited to try this!

What are the main differences between this and the ‘Ghost runner’, are they essentially the same?

@Svenning 0 Thanks. In the app, I didn’t know that I had to tap on the watch icon (that normally indicates sync status) and then on the watch model to get to the store. Found and downloaded apps.

@borgelkranz said in Suunto and Concept 2 indoor rowing: @off242 what I can add: as of late, SmartRow does directly connect to EXR. What I learned in that context: there are different versions of the SmartRow pulley. The old, silver one and the new, black one. They seem to differ slightly with respect to connection. I own the silver one and EXR had to provide a bug fix for it to connect. The ability of EXR to connect to the SmartRow pulley directly is a fairly new development, and happened due to collaboration between the two companies. For those new to this, previously the only way to work was by a “broadcast” method, where the SmartRow pulley connected to the SmartRow app on one device (like an iPhone) then the SR app “broadcast” to EXR on a second device (e.g. iPad or Apple TV). You’re correct that the original silver metal pulley behaves a bit different from later black plastic pulleys. Both transmit in SmartRow’s own format as I understand with subtle differences. The “broadcast” method is either FTMS or very close to it. Some people disliked this method due to requiring two devices; additionally, the broadcast method adds a slight delay, so EXR is about a half-stroke “behind” the SR app. The new “direct connection” improves things in most regards, but has the negative consequence that sessions are no longer written to the SmartRow online logbook. EXR can write session data to the Concept2 logbook for those people, but not yet to the SR one. Additionally, SmartRow also has a “power handle” meant for air-resistance rowers like the Concept2. People who happened to get a cheaper air-resistance machine with poor metrics can get this handle to get more accurate data. However, I suspect the cost of a cheaper rower and the SmartRow handle would be close enough to the Concept2 one might just get that anyway. The SmartRow handle also works with the Concept2, and while C2 people don’t necessarily need better data (given C2 is the standard) the handle also has four buttons, each with two top/bottom selections which can be used to do things like control a music player and perhaps eventually may have game effects in EXR (like the Zwift Play buttons in the cycling world). SmartRow is working on a “handle version” for WaterRower to give those media controls over there as well, and that version of the handle has dual bluetooth support, which allows one to have that direct EXR connection as well as a second connection to SmartRow app for those who want consistent logbook records. I believe the handle versions qualify as FTMS based on SmartRow’s web site.

@soisan said in Guide target zone alerts: @loverain Settings > General > Tones with the new update of today this has changed. Now you can fine tune your notifications in the settings for watch mode as well as for each activity individually.

@Florian-Resch what makes you think it should be 15 instead of 100? I have 21/100 loaded at the moment