@SuperFlo75 I mentioned that before. Even Suunto on Instagram recommends pre-ordering immediately, but that’s only possible in the US webstore. Seems to be a common case of different parts of a company taking different approaches…

@Ger43 I have a Race 1 (and Race 2)… the Race 1 has been great, with none of the distance loss / trimming of the Race 2. Lots of comparisons of features online, but from my practical experience, what I’m most concerned about is accurate ascent/descent, and accurate distance. The Race 1 is great in these regards.

@2b2bff, hi! I’m on MacBook Air M2 (Mac14,2).

Commentary zone has been improved : we now see all text when we want to modify it ; great !

@Dieter1960 said in Subject: Feedback on Zone Sense accuracy: Short intervals and Zone 2 threshold shifts: Analyzed the data through a specialized AI model to identify physiological breakpoints I’d be curious to know which model you used. If you ask an LLM to interpret your R-R data it generally uses the same (or similar) model that DFA-alpha1 is based on, but you can then tweak the prompt to ask it to compute the data using an “adaptive” model that should be more similar to what Suunto uses. At least this is something I tried long time ago, and eventually the computation was too heavy for the model to produce a result. AI models have evolved enormously since then. Nevertheless, I no longer look at ZoneSense data during my runs, simply because it just seems to “adapt” to my intensity. If I run at my typical aerobic effort, the shift between green and yellow is very likely where I expect it to occur, but if I run something more demanding (trail, tempo, race, etc.) it puts me in the aerobic zone when I actually have ±10 bpm above my aerobic runs.

@sky-runner no worries we keep it also for others to see. Yeah I had the same with one of my watches.

@pavel.samokha Vertical Run sport has been mentioned several times in that video as a new sport mode introduced in 2025. I have just tried using it on my watch and it shows the following: 1st data screen: Ascent, Altitude, Vertical Speed in ft/hour, Elapsed time. 2nd data screen: Distance, HR, Ascent, Elapsed time 3rd data screen: Splits - seem to be focused on power I wonder how it is different from Trail run with customized data screens other than focusing on vertical speed rather than pace? Also, if such Vertical Run activity was synced to Strava, will it appear in Strava as a Run or Trail Run? Personally I pay tons of attention to vertical metrics and have a whole data screen dedicated to 4 different vertical metrics, but I record most of my runs as trail runs. I rarely do an activity that is a pure vertical run. Usually it is a mix of steep vertical and more runnable terrain. Also, I wanted to mention that in my opinion, when a watch is configured in imperial units, using feet/hour unit for vertical speed is misguided for dynamic activities like Vertical Run or Trail Run when running on mountain terrain. For most people that would produce 4 digit numbers in the order of 1000-6000 ft/hour that are difficult to glance at, difficult to reason about, and that are too unstable - there is too much fluctuation in the last 2-3 digits, which makes reading these numbers difficult. Feet/minute is a much better unit which produces vertical speed in 0-100 range. That’s what Ambit series used as a unit for vertical speed, and that made much more sense.

@Egika Is there a table/list that lists the various user requests? Because it must be difficult and redundant for the development teams to read all these discussion threads.

@Egika [image: 1770907355583-1000144681.jpg] I did more runs like this

@giuliosq the Vertical 2 has a way advanced sensor and might do what you want from it. The first gen Vertical and Race both have sensors that work for some, but most speak badly about them…

@segi_pn said in Battery drain: Do you use an HR belt? Yes, two different external HR sensors connected to the watch - Suunto HR sensor and Coros Armband HR sensor. And yes, when I had a similar issue in the past it was likely caused by the external HR sensor. But what is interesting and different in this case is that the rapid discharge has happened after the watch battery got fully discharged and the watch turned off, then I charged the batter and didn’t have any activities.

@2b2bff …and then it will still not have Suunto Pay or an animated seconds hand…

@Brad_Olwin said in Suunto wristband: @Tami999 I managed to snag one of these a few years ago. A friend that works for Suunto gave it to me. Yay, Iam glad my memory is not that bad! Thanks for sharing.

@sky-runner I’m sorry, I didn’t mean the graph would look compressed, rather the complete UI would, as it would reduce the whitespace below the headline. If you look at the Android representation, you have a 100 line, but whitespace over the line. TBH I think it looks better with the 120 line and the whitespace. My problem is that the range is shifting around on iOS…

@New_Jack A pity such a watch is considered at its end of life. I will begin to regret the time of classic cell (I am still using a D4i and a Mosquito for diving since 20y thanks to cell self replacement) A watch like this should be useful enough for the the majority of amateur athletes for at least 15 or 20 years (by the way I think the 9PP form factor is ideal) I hope you will find a way to access to the battery. And if so, please share your tips.

@PIPA44800 exactly, this is not a support but a Community forum.

said in Nap detection off: @Brad_Olwin I have set dnd only for sleeptime 21:30-4:45. Gonna try factory reset next I would hold off on Factory reset unless absolutely necessary. I am similar and have sleep DND set for 21:00 to 6:00 but fall asleep at 21:30 and wake up at 5:30. When on the couch for TV I am not motionless, I usually have water and will get up once or twice an hour.