@dreamer_ said: Btw, It seems I can count 3 mayor betas in 2026 (splitted in 15 minor announced versions only this year). It is not the same release calendar/features as for the supported watches, but the bug fixes are there (even for Garmin). It is also more than nothing. Yeah, on paper it sounds good, but essentially each version had some serious issues for some people. Always the question of “Should I really upgrade beyond version …?” in the forums. I understand Suunto is focused in the new watches but it’s also a lot of time a watch like the Vertical is forgotten with the remaining bugs. And, when bugs, this can be a very bad image of the brand for the users that have the watch. Reminds me on Nokia and its N9, where they pushed a final update eliminating most of the bugs (over 1000 IIRC) before pulling the (support) plug. I also feel that is the right thing to do.

@Kowalski I don’t know. I’m not a Reddit admin, so I don’t know the tools they have at their disposal to detect stuff like this. It may have been that there was malware hidden in the file hosted in the Google Drive file, and the Core 2 leak was the bait to get you to open it? Just speculating.

Since Suunto still shows no meaningful response and reports of Nautic issues keep piling up, I have now reported the Nautic through the European product safety system as a potentially dangerous product. Given the false mandatory gas-time alarms and other incorrect dive data, I think an independent safety review is overdue. I’ll keep you updated. [image: 1786372833520-screenshot-2026-08-10-164007.png]

@Brad_Olwin I always run 2-3 days after races. Only for all-out Marathons, I take two weeks off. My HR is not really influenced by these races. It is not more than the usual ±4 bpms during easy runs at aerobic LT. Of course my legs are tired and the muscular effort feels way higher for the pace but HR is the same for the speed that I run. I would be then not able to run for long time at my LT but due to fatigue. HR is then still in the expected corridor for that pace. Only experienced strong deviations of LT HR at return to sport after stronger infections like COVID and always the first 3 days of winter training camp on the canarien islands. There my body is always completely overwhelmed by the sudden 25°C temperature difference. SZ though told me so many times, I would be way above or below my threshold even though HR and pace was exactly as expected. During the training camp SZ always told me that my Real-Time effort should be way higher. No way that I could ever run at that HR which was close to my 1k call-out HR. Real-Time effort does not work at all for me, while average reported thresholds over more than hundred activities come close.

@Sascha-Domres makes sense, I get your point but it is more like I would buy Coros Apex 4 or similar and go to their community and start complaining that they do not support “tags” on activities and I am so dissapointed in all they do

@André-Faria It is hard to claim warranty for this. The watch restarts randomly. My seller says: the fault did not appear.

@MikeC30 @markg pretty sure this is a bug in the app.

@pavel.samokha done, shared in Teams

ah here https://www.suunto.com/en-gr/sports/News-Articles-container-page/suunto-core-2-vs-core-1-whats-new-and-why-it-matters/

@Goatee Suunto reached out to me via email asking for more information (watch serial number, app version, etc.). I sent them the deets, so I’ll see where things go from there. Hopefully we can isolate the bug and get it fixed.

I like the wind direction arrow the best. I’ll have to use it during a real exercise to see how well it works. But I see it’s potential for cycling (to avoid head on wind) and sailing. Of course, the issue is always where from the weather data comes. Unfortunately, usually, it is not overly granular.

@Thorlap71 Personally, I haven’t tried it. Someone I spoke to did it and I still haven’t received an update from him on whether it had any effect.

@isazi Yeah, let’s hope they implement it as soon as possible.

@isazi, the above issue seems to be partially resolved but it is now broken in a different way. On today’s run, the first climb segment showed as red for me on the overall climb profile, but when I attempted to zoom in the single segment view of Climb Guidance was just empty, meaning that it didn’t show any elevation profile at all. It still showed the remaining distance at the bottom. This got resolved at the end of the first climb segment, after that zoomed in view (to individual climb /descent segments) worked correctly. Also, what I have noticed is that zooming by distance did no longer work. I suspect this has something to do with the changes introduced in the latest firmware. There is now a new Climb Guidance settings menu inside Navigation settings which allows to select the default zoom mode - with Waypoint, Climb, and Distance options. I have rhe Waypoint options selected. However on today’s run I didn’t have any waypoints on the route. I wonder if that contributed to the issue.

@snow 5, just as a watch, it hasn’t been working for 7 days; generally, 5-6 days max. This all started after the firmware upgrade. Otherwise, it used to give 10+ days on a charge as a watch, and with 10+ hours of GPS-only (no heart rate), it used to give me 7 days of battery easily. (Don’t have Bluetooth on for any notifications) I have noticed that 2 to 3 hours of GPS use drains 6-8% of the battery. I have already lost hope with Suunto on this matter.

@maszop can you give me some details about your disconnects with Vertical 2 and the new firmware? I will forward them to Suunto.

@Martin-Tuharský Hi Same issue here. 4 Days old Race 2 watch updated to the latest firmware on day one rebooted twice. Luckily only in time mode and not during my 100km race a day ago therefore there must be some kind of issue with this

@Egika yep, I stiil have it in one of my drawers loved it so much!

@duffman19 thanks I will try. I can export a fit or JSON file. But how would I insert it later in case it doesn’t sync the deleted activity?