After a few weeks of testing, the issue started to occur again. The OHR sensor turns off without warning and does not turn back on until the watch is removed from the wrist or a forced restart is performed. [image: 1766748113856-img_5821.jpeg]

@ChanOJ Have you tried restart before starting activity, by holding upper button for 12 seconds?

said in your honest thoughts: Let’s say I do have a preplanned route, but for whatever reason I have to take a quick detour while having the original route in view and merge into the original route a bit further. Again, that is not possible because as soon as I zoom out just a little bit all the trails disappear from the map. So I can no longer use the watch map as a visual reference. This is more common than you might think because detours might be needed for a number of reasons - trail closure, decommissioned trails that I didn’t know about at the time of planning, a need to refill water, etc. Just one day after my comment I’ve run into the exact case I described above. Today during my trail run I’ve run into a sign that told me that the trail ahead was closed and wasn’t passable and I now had to find a way around. This is how it looked on the watch while I was trying to connect a few alternative trails and still keep an eye on the original route. I am just 150 meters from the route and already I have no help from the watch to find the way around. [image: 1767058502746-pxl_20251229_231952308.jpg] Also, adding salt to the injury, the crown stopped working (zooming the map) shortly after I took this picture and didn’t resume working until I had finished the run. Just perfect!

@PetrMisek But if you look, the graph perfectly shows the problem. One could think, not knowing, that you slept from midnight until 5 PM the next day. It is not helpful at all. Also, why does the axis show 120 percent? Is this another bug by Suunto? And then again, right after the activity, there is a rapid rise in the resources.

@TED77 But generally, the number itself doesn’t matter, nor do these types of comparisons. If the trend or graph is more or less the same in both tools, the difference in numerical values ​​can simply be ignored.

Just to throw a thought in here, as a (newly minted) Run user: the barometer field needs some help. In Imperial units (which I as American have a love hate relationship with) it shows to the ones place for inHg—literally useless information because it would be the equivalent of showing only to the hundreds place hPa! And whats worse, the barometer trendline (far more useful, and a staple of suunto watches across decades of product lines) isn’t an option at all, despite showing up in the preview (alongside value, in the same field) for “Concentric Analog”. Not sure if that could be fixed faster since it applies uniformly to all existing watchfaces, but man alive is it annoying… As for needing new designs, I agree with many on this thread that have pointed out a lot of the designs work quite well, and a lot of it comes down to taste. However, as the OP pointed out, there’s some very minor tweaks that could help tremendously, including functional changes like my above noted barometer problem…

@Olaf-Gottschalk

@Tieutieu said in Q4 2025 Firmware Update Infos?: @Tomas5 yes when update will be out Exactly the answer I would have given!

@Tomas5 yes, you’re right, I actually never thought about how one could interpret the “like / dislike “ button in different ways to communicate in different ways. For me it always was/is a way to show my respect/thankfulness for helping others or telling something interesting or just about being communicative, and I only dislike rude or respect less posts. I may be quite too sensitive to respectless behaviour, which is maybe rooted in my martial arts background ( In most traditional martial arts showing even the slightest bit of disrespect in tournament e.g rolling your eyes or just waving with your hand normally results in direct disqualification). I may think different about dislikes now - thanks

I love my Suunto watch thanks! As always, people will want things that aren’t available and for me that’s two things - Watch faces with larger, more readable complications. It’s not hard to do, just increase the size, test it on people like me, then add it to the list. Building a cloud architecture to store watch settings in a granular fashion so for example I could do a clean install but only restore routes and custom sports - which is a much more complex undertaking! My only other criticism is that I don’t have enough money to buy a Vertical 2

@owend I also once had that problem with hr data. but in that training I paused the training and then continued. later I noticed that problem in the application.

@duffman19 Same problem still persists on my V1.

@Horizontal_2 I agree it’s probably not a real issue to worry about the level at which to recharge. BTW the battery warranty is for one year (and the 300 cycles only if they come earlier).

@Armin-M it’s funny because it is just the way from the watch to the Phone not working. Information from the Phone to the watch worked well.

It is normal i have to reset every 2 to 4 days my phone just because a part of the Communication between watch and phone is not anymore working? And the Information (Sync with Suunto App) why sometimes it takes hours to go away, what information need so long to travel. the phone is normaly not more then 1 to 5m away ? [image: 1766766193762-20251216_094250_cut.jpg]

@OutdoorMan i don’t understand why running should, walking/hiking shouldnt. I just know i don’t run because problems with knee for a long time. But still my previouse suunto watch (S5) did calculate this. How correct value was? I don’t know, but i know OHR didn’t worked well on S5 for me (lot of spikes and sometimes 20% of excercise it dropped to half of actual HR or it jumped to double which was even worse (like 200bpn while walk). So i assume this was really not calculated correctly since it is based on heart rate.

@TED77 luckily I have both Suunto and Polar belts, so I just switched to Suunto and gave Polar to my wife, since she’s an Apple girl and has no problems with H10 that is my solution

Last night my watch also stopped measuring heart rate in the middle of the night. I bought the watch only 6 days ago. A soft restart returned the heart rate. I have software 2.48.16