@VoiGAS said in Is there still demand for a modern MIP endurance watch?: But I think AMOLED could completely replace MIP with better adaptive reactions to movement and sunlight. Max brightness is good already on RaceS The market thinks otherwise. The supply of MIP is dwindling because there is not enough demand, and as I understand currently there are only one or two producers of small round MIP displays for watches. Another problem with MIP is that displays are thicker and require a wider bezel, which is not what most customers want.

Today I did another test with a different round-trip track. Editing those points of the track in Komoot does not seem to make any effect. The offset is always there. After a while, I went out of the route like 1km and then I returned to the route again and started running back in the route. The autoreverse did not work until a very long time. I started receiving notifications but after skipping many indications. Another little thing: The text when out of the route is extremely small and completely unreadable. This needs a little fix (that icon is just an invented one as an example, and colors and everything should be according to the layout) [image: 1777413648823-out_of_the_route.png]

Hello, On the 24th, I conducted some tests, first on a practically straight route, and then on a route in the same area with hills and curves. My hypothesis that the Race 2 is incorrectly processing the recorded points was confirmed. The straight route is marked every 500 meters; it was 4.04 km according to the Race 2 and 4.05 km according to the track, measuring almost exactly during the activity. During the activity with curves, the problem returned, subtracting 80 meters from the total: 4.00 km according to the Race 2 and 4.08 km according to the track. I’ve attached some screenshots that I will send to Suunto support: [image: 1777273901039-captura-de-pantalla-2026-04-27-085958.jpg] [image: 1777274020950-captura-de-pantalla-2026-04-27-090132.jpg] I encourage you to conduct these tests and also send them to Suunto (support@suunto.com). It’s the only way they’ll take the issue seriously. If this problem is widely known, I doubt Suunto will sell another Race 2 at its current price. Regards.

The issue with the incorrect zoomed in individual climb guidance. In a short period of time I have already experienced it twice. Here you can see that I have transitioned from a descent to a climb as visible at two different zoom levels: [image: 1777224787857-f1b77f1a-e047-41cc-b259-92e28034ec4b-1_all_9057.jpg] [image: 1777224818028-f1b77f1a-e047-41cc-b259-92e28034ec4b-1_all_9056.jpg] But if I zoom all the way in, it shows me at a descent, and that seems to be the previous descent that I’ve just finished: [image: 1777224970549-f1b77f1a-e047-41cc-b259-92e28034ec4b-1_all_9058.jpg] I hope it doesn’t require another year for this to get fixed! Also, as mentioned above, fix the layout so that it actually shows how much climb or descent is remaining and increase the font size for the remaining distance because it is quite difficult to see.

@Nikolai-Simonov said in Live location S+ app: It’s not a bug but feature! you don’t need to re-connect it each time, just take a 5-15 sec to connect. Thanks for all the explanations. The Bluetooth connection to the watch is a bit unclear to me, but I understand the general principle. And I confirm your explanation: even if the app says “waiting for S+ application…”, it will turn green as soon as the activity starts. However, I tried the live tracking again this evening during a run, but unfortunately, it didn’t work very well - version 1.0.16-ext (102) First, I had trouble activating tracking: the watch said it was connected (I had the GPS coordinates on the dedicated screen) and the app indicated a connection with the watch. But I still wasn’t located on the app’s map, either at the start or after a short movement. I had to stop the activity, disconnect and reconnect the app and the watch, and start a new activity to finally be located on the map and see my movement. Several kilometers later, I checked and the watch was disconnected (“DISCONECTED state:99”). I’m not entirely sure, but I think the app still indicated a connection with the watch. I tried disabling the Suunto app on the watch and then re-enabling it, disconnecting from the app and re-enabling it, several times, in various orders, but still without success. I finally gave up on LiveTracking. Last weekend, I also had some issues with version 1.0.13-ext (77) where I experienced a disconnection for a few kilometers, but the connection was restored afterward and the tracking resumed (with a long straight line corresponding to the disconnection). As I work in software development myself, I imagine it can be very difficult to diagnose with just this text information, sorry

I can’t tell which is more accurate between Running Dynamic and Suunto Spark on the watch, so I’m not confident enough to speak about it.

@OutdoorMan said in Minimal watchface (feedback): @dreamer_ I personally just need to have a date in time only mode, because I never remember what date it is. And that’s it Totally agree. Battery icon also means you’,ll never forget charging your device but that is my feeling. I consider the rest of the things totally useless

@suzzlo said in Downloading map takes a very long time: @muurain said in Downloading map takes a very long time: Suunto’s cloud service that throttles the downloads but… you can download maps for the mobile phone that are much faster… so… if we think, same server is delivering them… this should not be the problem… Anyway, I can live with it You’re right! I didn’t even realize that, even though I did download mobile maps too And yeah this does seem like an understandable constraint of small smart devices. I too am happy to have the convenience of WiFi downloads, even if they are pretty slow compared to bigger devices. My old Garmin Fenix maps downloaded way faster, but it was via USB cable and a PC. But given the analysis here, the original post does now sound like a WiFi issue or a bug. Maybe try downloading maps on some other place or WiFi…? If the download speed is considerably less than 1GB / hour (or ~2Mbps), it should work faster and there are not many broadbands this slow.

@MdzOtt yes, SA is the one not doing it ;). In my case with Karoo Gen 3 I see same avg power with zeros included (gold standard) like you get see with garmin/Strava

@gkaempfer Same here

@Egika Yes, different colours make no difference unfortunately

@Highlands These are great! Thanks

In my case, with the Vertical 1 Titanium Solar, I’m confident the issues started with version 2.43.12 released in June 2025. I had been monitoring battery consumption, which increased from about 3% per day during normal use to around 7%. It’s not a dramatic spike, but it reduces battery life from roughly 21–22 days down to no more than 14–15 days. Wouldn’t it be enough to check what changed between version 2.40.44 and 2.43.12?

@thibault-b. Good job !!! I test the last version today. It seems perfect all information I need size … thanks !

@Egika thank you too.

Very Nice!!!

Hi. I also think the Vertical is still a good sports watch. I hope that in the next v1 update they’ll be able to include the altitude in the elevation contours in the maps at zoom resolutions that the MIP screen can display. Having them is useful in some conditions.

@Egika this was exactly the bug I referred to in my post. Anyway my point is that there is a difference between fixing watch breaking busy and niggles, so it would be good to know what to expect…