@dreamer_ said: Btw, It seems I can count 3 mayor betas in 2026 (splitted in 15 minor announced versions only this year). It is not the same release calendar/features as for the supported watches, but the bug fixes are there (even for Garmin). It is also more than nothing. Yeah, on paper it sounds good, but essentially each version had some serious issues for some people. Always the question of “Should I really upgrade beyond version …?” in the forums. I understand Suunto is focused in the new watches but it’s also a lot of time a watch like the Vertical is forgotten with the remaining bugs. And, when bugs, this can be a very bad image of the brand for the users that have the watch. Reminds me on Nokia and its N9, where they pushed a final update eliminating most of the bugs (over 1000 IIRC) before pulling the (support) plug. I also feel that is the right thing to do.

@Kowalski I don’t know. I’m not a Reddit admin, so I don’t know the tools they have at their disposal to detect stuff like this. It may have been that there was malware hidden in the file hosted in the Google Drive file, and the Core 2 leak was the bait to get you to open it? Just speculating.

Since Suunto still shows no meaningful response and reports of Nautic issues keep piling up, I have now reported the Nautic through the European product safety system as a potentially dangerous product. Given the false mandatory gas-time alarms and other incorrect dive data, I think an independent safety review is overdue. I’ll keep you updated. [image: 1786372833520-screenshot-2026-08-10-164007.png]

@Speed-Man said: @brave_dave Are you sure? Try running in 35°C heat and see for yourself. And I’ll add try running 2 or 3d after a hard race and see for yourself. AT and LT will be wildly different than the values prior to the race if you are well trained and tapered. ZS is real time for effort, I do not use ZS to set my zones as they vary a lot. This has been discussed many, many, many times here.

@Sascha-Domres makes sense, I get your point but it is more like I would buy Coros Apex 4 or similar and go to their community and start complaining that they do not support “tags” on activities and I am so dissapointed in all they do

@André-Faria It is hard to claim warranty for this. The watch restarts randomly. My seller says: the fault did not appear.

@MikeC30 @markg pretty sure this is a bug in the app.

@pavel.samokha done, shared in Teams

ah here https://www.suunto.com/en-gr/sports/News-Articles-container-page/suunto-core-2-vs-core-1-whats-new-and-why-it-matters/

@Goatee Suunto reached out to me via email asking for more information (watch serial number, app version, etc.). I sent them the deets, so I’ll see where things go from there. Hopefully we can isolate the bug and get it fixed.

I like the wind direction arrow the best. I’ll have to use it during a real exercise to see how well it works. But I see it’s potential for cycling (to avoid head on wind) and sailing. Of course, the issue is always where from the weather data comes. Unfortunately, usually, it is not overly granular.

@Thorlap71 Personally, I haven’t tried it. Someone I spoke to did it and I still haven’t received an update from him on whether it had any effect.

@isazi Yeah, let’s hope they implement it as soon as possible.

@snow 5, just as a watch, it hasn’t been working for 7 days; generally, 5-6 days max. This all started after the firmware upgrade. Otherwise, it used to give 10+ days on a charge as a watch, and with 10+ hours of GPS-only (no heart rate), it used to give me 7 days of battery easily. (Don’t have Bluetooth on for any notifications) I have noticed that 2 to 3 hours of GPS use drains 6-8% of the battery. I have already lost hope with Suunto on this matter.

@isazi sent

@maszop can you give me some details about your disconnects with Vertical 2 and the new firmware? I will forward them to Suunto.

@Martin-Tuharský Hi Same issue here. 4 Days old Race 2 watch updated to the latest firmware on day one rebooted twice. Luckily only in time mode and not during my 100km race a day ago therefore there must be some kind of issue with this

@Egika yep, I stiil have it in one of my drawers loved it so much!

Regarding step counts, I still think for those who are highly focused on that, getting a waist-based model will likely give better overall accuracy that the majority of watches and is fairly inexpensive. Here’s a quick article to show the style I mean: https://www.verywellfit.com/best-pedometers-4159148 I know people who do activities like knitting or drumming that would get a lot of “accidental steps” if relying on any wrist based model. My own attitude is simpler — steps cannot tell me intensity of effort. The other day I did 5082 steps for one activity, which was a walking effort of 5km with average HR of 92bpm. Then another day I did another 5km effort doing track intervals (100m x 10) which was less steps 4461 but higher average HR of 154bpm. If I were only looking at steps, the second effort seems “weaker” which is the complete opposite result of my own analysis. Of course, the walking session was good for recovery, while the intervals was just a general intense workout. And today we have thunderstorms outside, and while I’ll get a decent amount of steps just going through the house, my primary workout today will be a rowing session which technically is “zero steps,” and yesterday was an hour long cycling workout that also was “zero steps”. Now I know in the Polar ecosystem they have a feature where they can give you “step equivalents” for things like that, but I dislike that system.