@2b2bff said: Offline 2b2bff SILVER MEMBERS about 17 hours ago @Woodster said: Let me know how I can send over diagnostics It is explained in the opening post of the thread? Race S Yes it’s in there ta buddy - sent Suunto account details via chat. For me the freezing issue is very likely a faulty garbage-collection issue with a SuuntoPlus app I wrote leading to RAM pressure, can easily reproduce and send logs over so that a firmware update can isolate any app issues from the actual watch.

2.13 (2026-06-27) is live with a small bugfix: Each trend line now scales to its own movement, so a chart looks the same whether you view it in the combined drift view or in its own dedicated view. Fixed the effort direction for speed-based sports (such as hiking): moving faster than your average now correctly reads AHEAD instead of FADE (and correct green/red colors).

@Calando Why is a chest strap necessary? Beat-by-beat data: ZoneSense uses a proprietary physiological algorithm (DDFA) that analyzes Heart Rate Variability (HRV) to determine stress and intensity levels. Optical limitations: Optical sensors (OHR) cannot reliably measure RR intervals (the exact time between heartbeats) while you are in motion. They are only accurate for this metric when you are at complete rest, such as during sleep. When pairing a chest strap, your watch will automatically disable the optical wrist monitor to ensure the data source provides the necessary accuracy for functionality.

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos it seems to affect more people. Can you tell if this is indeed a Suunto App bug?

I should maybe raise the average window from 3 to 10s, to smooth that grade variation (especially in descents). My guess is that 0 is probably closer to the real value than 450W (at + 5/7% grade, I am between 200 and 350W). I agree, you probably won’t get heuristics that works in all cases.

@withManish On iOS there is rungap for datamigration. And I use strava and intervals.icu. It collects data from multiple sources (I had different brands in the past). But most importantly, data of 5 or 10 years ago hardly has any relevance. But I’m no hardcore data collector.

@Nikolai-Simonov yes I built a custom interval workout because I wanted to use navigation at the same time. If I use the built in intervals I cannot use navigation (this is known Suunto functionality)

@2b2bff said: @stromdiddily there is no universal “This is a workout file, deal with it watch” format. If you are pushing a workout to Garmin, you define the steps. If you push the workout to Suunto, you define a SuuntoPlus Guide. I don’t know how Coros or Apple Watch does handle it. So, Training Peaks - or any other platform for that matter - has to include the respective framework for each brand individually… The other way around, if you read the finished activity from the watch, there is a format that has been widely adopted: Garmin FIT files. I see, this makes sense…thank you

@pavel.samokha Ok, thanks.

I finally received mine and use them on a run yesterday for the first time. I noticed a bug: at first I could adjust the volume with the touch I had set up (triple tap), but after some time this stopped working; I had media controls on my watch, too, and when I chose the volume option nothing happened.

@Squirrel thank you!

@Łukasz-Szmigiel The ones I used didn’t have those tags and have been around for years, so they’re probably directly from Suunto.

@rémiP Thanks. This seems problematic. Is there any reason for this behavior @suuntopartnerteam?

@thailon I made one for my race. Haven’t tried it, but could fit for Vertical as well: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7108194

@sky-runner You’re right… ! I see it similarly… it is certainly very difficult not to overload the Maps… POI like water points would certainly be useful on larger zoom levels… But they don’t care about trash cans at all…

@maszop sometimes you realise at the moment to download maps and … Yeah, otherwise this is just a discussion.

@sky-runner Tested today and multiple normal routes were synced during same activity. SV2 and Android, but some firmware and app versions ahead for testing. At least some hope…

@matram pm me with your GitHub name, I’ll add you to my S+ skill repo. I’ve already done the digging.