@dreamer_ said: Btw, It seems I can count 3 mayor betas in 2026 (splitted in 15 minor announced versions only this year). It is not the same release calendar/features as for the supported watches, but the bug fixes are there (even for Garmin). It is also more than nothing. Yeah, on paper it sounds good, but essentially each version had some serious issues for some people. Always the question of “Should I really upgrade beyond version …?” in the forums. I understand Suunto is focused in the new watches but it’s also a lot of time a watch like the Vertical is forgotten with the remaining bugs. And, when bugs, this can be a very bad image of the brand for the users that have the watch. Reminds me on Nokia and its N9, where they pushed a final update eliminating most of the bugs (over 1000 IIRC) before pulling the (support) plug. I also feel that is the right thing to do.

@Brad_Olwin I always run 2-3 days after races. Only for all-out Marathons, I take two weeks off. My HR is not really influenced by these races. It is not more than the usual ±4 bpms during easy runs at aerobic LT. Of course my legs are tired and the muscular effort feels way higher for the pace but HR is the same for the speed that I run. I would be then not able to run for long time at my LT but due to fatigue. HR is then still in the expected corridor for that pace. Only experienced strong deviations of LT HR at return to sport after stronger infections like COVID and always the first 3 days of winter training camp on the canarien islands. There my body is always completely overwhelmed by the sudden 25°C temperature difference. SZ though told me so many times, I would be way above or below my threshold even though RPE, HR, and pace was exactly as expected. During the training camp SZ always told me that my Real-Time effort should be way higher. No way that I could ever run under that sudden higher temps at that HR which was close to my 1k all-out HR. Real-Time effort does not work at all for me, while average reported thresholds over more than hundred activities come close.

@Sascha-Domres makes sense, I get your point but it is more like I would buy Coros Apex 4 or similar and go to their community and start complaining that they do not support “tags” on activities and I am so dissapointed in all they do

Since my latest findings, im starting to get a conclusion based on what I’ve observed (some of you might not be on the same opinion) Nautic - No dropouts > No issues (air consumption or alerts) Nautic - With dropouts > issues air consumption & alerts Nautic S - No dropouts (sidemount ) NO ISSUES watch & transmitter are close by Nautic S - with dropouts (backmount ) ISSUES since the watch is opposite side of transmitter [image: 1786960733625-captura-de-ecr%C3%A3-2026-08-17-%C3%A0s-10.28.32.png] [image: 1786960755202-captura-de-ecr%C3%A3-2026-08-17-%C3%A0s-10.36.56.png]

@André-Faria It is hard to claim warranty for this. The watch restarts randomly. My seller says: the fault did not appear.

@Kowalski I don’t know. I’m not a Reddit admin, so I don’t know the tools they have at their disposal to detect stuff like this. It may have been that there was malware hidden in the file hosted in the Google Drive file, and the Core 2 leak was the bait to get you to open it? Just speculating.

@sky-runner said: 7X was significantly worse than 6X perhaps because of the added solar charging layer and the touch layer. I was shocked to find that as I wanted to update the Fenix 6S Pro to a 7 Pro. I thought it would be a no brainer… That screen made me buy an Epix Pro in the end…

Thanks both of you for explaining! The requirement that you need to keep the watch aligned with the direction of travel was unknown to me (I never use the maps) On a road bike, I usually check the watch at a 30 degree angle to the direction I’m going so I either need to change that habit or make the correction in my head Either way I am happy that I now know how it works!

@runyx17 I’m not sure that’s the case. There was a glitch with the Suunto 9 Peak Pro a while back that was fixed via a quick update within a month.

@isazi said: with a new route, or the same as last week? Both, newly created and re-enabled old ones.

@Goatee Suunto reached out to me via email asking for more information (watch serial number, app version, etc.). I sent them the deets, so I’ll see where things go from there. Hopefully we can isolate the bug and get it fixed.

@sindavide said: Does this look a lot to you? It is not ample, but given the small size and AMOLED with AOD it is ok. My Epix Pro 47mm that has about the same screen size, but a bigger housing, gets me one additional day… Fenix 6S Pro, with a smaller housing, but MIP has been another day extra with about the same usage after 3 years of using it…

@MikeC30 @markg pretty sure this is a bug in the app.

@Danny-poleg Ich habe mit der Race 2 auch 2 Abstürze gehabt und fehlerhafte Workouts mit fehlenden HF Daten. Ich bin jetzt auf die April Firmware zurück. Damit gibts keine Probleme. Suunto, wo ist der Hotfix?

@isazi Yeah, let’s hope they implement it as soon as possible.

@Tieutieu well, I picked one up on sale the other day and so far so good with the battery. No significant drain, AOD off w/ raise to wake and backlight mid, pulse ox off.

@duffman19 So I tried first with a short stretching activity. Delete from SA, log out of SA, login again, resync and it showed the activity again. However. doing so with my long run, seems to not resync although it’s still on the watch (at least showing on the watch. I noticed. Daily HR, steps, resources are all in SA including the activity time. But GPS and activity stats are not. Would be great to ad Fit/json manualy Back into SA. That’s possible? Is it possible json and fit files are deleted if you uninstal SA?? Would be an explanation I can’t find them on my phone anymore.

@maszop can you give me some details about your disconnects with Vertical 2 and the new firmware? I will forward them to Suunto.

@Egika said: I ever wondered why anyone would like to know their step count. It must have been some good marketing from whoever came up with this… I looked into the history of “step count” and asking some people I know who use that metric, and I think a few things came together to make it popular. First was the “10000 steps” idea made by a Japanese marketing firm years ago which I think people liked as being an easy number to remember, and it was promoted as a universal thing (compare with tracking active calories, where people of different weights like need different targets). https://www.nuhs.edu/debunking-the-10000-step-myth-figuring-out-what-actually-matters/ It also resonates with some people as some of their “natural activity counts” towards it, so walking around the house, etc. gets one somewhat toward the goal then they just need to “finish their steps.” I still see it ideally as more of a “training wheels” metric and think at least tracking active calories is better (so other activities like cycling and yoga “count better” despite not having many steps, as opposed to Polar’s system that assigns “step equivalents” to encourage non-walking activity). And Suunto puts steps and calories on the same Daily Health page so I can see someone new to fitness and Suunto thinking “need steps” eventually learning to use calories instead.

@duffman19 Thank you, curiously, the navigation still worked exactly. But it makes sense what you explain. Thank you