I haven’t read through this whole thread but I’m not a fan of AMOLED, hence why I’ve not upgraded my original Vertical. IMO there’s absolutely nothing wrong with MIP and hopefully we will always have an alternative to the eye-burner that is AMOLED

@maszop Thanks. And weirdly it has now synced correctly some 20+ hours after finishing the activity. That’s what usually happens an hour or two after I’ve grumbled about it on here. I’m inclined to suspect some sort of Bluetooth issue but whether it’s the phone or the watch I can’t say. It’s annoying.

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos yeah, @sky-runner always provides valuable input. The problem is no time to read all feedback

Received the Spark today after a weekend order. Paired & updated quickly and have supreme sound. Haven’t tried them in action (on the bike trainer or out for a run) but are quickly becoming my favorites in spite of owning multiple sets of Sonics. [image: 1776298642069-sonic.png]

@Nikolai-Simonov I have intense jungle training this weekend; I’ll be testing both Vertical 2 and the update.

@leafs93 I can confirm that. Same experience here. Time to settle this with a measuring wheel.;o)

@gkaempfer Same here

@Brad_Olwin @aiv4r I completely agree with you.

@brave_dave No, fortunately I don’t experience continuous disconnection issues. It only happens in water due to the physical limitations of Bluetooth transmission. When the arm comes out of the water, the connection is restored automatically without any problems. At least with the Vertical 2. Which device are you using?

The watch and phone are connected via Bluetooth, and I’m receiving notifications, but the app shows no connection. I turned Bluetooth off and on on the phone, but it didn’t fix the problem. What else can I do? [image: 1776097483350-a11.jpg]

I don’t know what the battery is. I’ll check. But I was thinking of trying to replace the battery. This morning, during training, the watch lost connection with the heart rate monitor again. So the problem still exists. This takes approximately 30 to 45 seconds and then the connection is re-established.

@Egika said in 9PP Appreciation in 2026 / Things to fix before it's orphaned: yes, for clear watch bugs there still can be fix releases. [image: 1776343371867-dumb-and-dumber-lloyd.gif] I guess the question is what would Suunto consider a bug? Like @the_77 mentioned we could probably make a pretty long list of things that don’t quite work as expected. But I’m guessing the nit-picky things won’t ever be addressed. What about some of the big picture things, though, like the clearly broken activity navigation screen (touch doesn’t work, can’t scroll back to previous data screen, old/ineffective zoom function) or the constant phantom notifications? I would qualify these as bugs, but does Suunto?

Everything is there, it’s just they’re now completely impossible to see unless you are in the perfect light conditions, leaning backwards and squinting. But on a serious note, I don’t know what’s happened but it’s currently not a usable watchface which is a bummer as it’s my favourite

@cpinky said in Hiking Sport Mode Screen: @maszop I do like the idea of the app since that can be enabled/disabled mid hike as opposed to always taking up a data field That’s a good solution too. I don’t like messing around with settings during an activity. Time is money

@larrybbaker I’m sure someone else said about Scotland being a really long download too I had the phone & watch on charge Race S Samsung S25 Ultra Android Suunto beta app

@borgelkranz said in Suunto and Concept 2 indoor rowing: @off242 what I can add: as of late, SmartRow does directly connect to EXR. What I learned in that context: there are different versions of the SmartRow pulley. The old, silver one and the new, black one. They seem to differ slightly with respect to connection. I own the silver one and EXR had to provide a bug fix for it to connect. The ability of EXR to connect to the SmartRow pulley directly is a fairly new development, and happened due to collaboration between the two companies. For those new to this, previously the only way to work was by a “broadcast” method, where the SmartRow pulley connected to the SmartRow app on one device (like an iPhone) then the SR app “broadcast” to EXR on a second device (e.g. iPad or Apple TV). You’re correct that the original silver metal pulley behaves a bit different from later black plastic pulleys. Both transmit in SmartRow’s own format as I understand with subtle differences. The “broadcast” method is either FTMS or very close to it. Some people disliked this method due to requiring two devices; additionally, the broadcast method adds a slight delay, so EXR is about a half-stroke “behind” the SR app. The new “direct connection” improves things in most regards, but has the negative consequence that sessions are no longer written to the SmartRow online logbook. EXR can write session data to the Concept2 logbook for those people, but not yet to the SR one. Additionally, SmartRow also has a “power handle” meant for air-resistance rowers like the Concept2. People who happened to get a cheaper air-resistance machine with poor metrics can get this handle to get more accurate data. However, I suspect the cost of a cheaper rower and the SmartRow handle would be close enough to the Concept2 one might just get that anyway. The SmartRow handle also works with the Concept2, and while C2 people don’t necessarily need better data (given C2 is the standard) the handle also has four buttons, each with two top/bottom selections which can be used to do things like control a music player and perhaps eventually may have game effects in EXR (like the Zwift Play buttons in the cycling world). SmartRow is working on a “handle version” for WaterRower to give those media controls over there as well, and that version of the handle has dual bluetooth support, which allows one to have that direct EXR connection as well as a second connection to SmartRow app for those who want consistent logbook records. I believe the handle versions qualify as FTMS based on SmartRow’s web site.

I’m probably buying the Spark to use with the Vertical 2 Ti. Since both products are already in the market, with these headsets, I think Suunto has a very good oportunity to go a lot further. The combo of the heatsets when paired with the watch, could be used to improve several things: I.E: Voice notes while in activity Ability of making phone calls without taking the phone of the backpack when you are in a trail run. I.E, click button and say something like: call sister. Improve the pedometer features (no other brand has a product in the market which such a nice feature). I.E: When the GPS signal is lost because you are running indoor or in a treadmill. I think there are many more use cases that would make an instant buy probably for many people.

@snow said in New firmware 2.53.42: You need to start the activity Ah! Yes… That works. This was incredibly convoluted… Thanks. Hope my bumbling around will help other users. Edit: Everybody is talking about the Menu only accessible from the Map screen itself (the 3 lines/hamburger icon). Edit 2: And it works even without any Route loaded. Great!