@Brad_Olwin Really? Very interesting as XC Skiing is my other Usecase for the Vertical. Sun and Snow together are so bright that the MIP really shines. Also the Solar power collection is welcome. For running I really like the Race S as it is much lighter and the OHR works perfectly since the last update. Waiting for an Ocean 2 Titanium in the Race 2 case. If the new display is that much better it would serve all my demands. But as long as RaceS (discounted), Vertical Titanium (used) and Mares Divecomp together cost less than the Ocean I will stick with this trio

@Joaquin wonderful work, Joaquín. Thank you! Is there any estimate for when this update will arrive in Race 2?

@Mff73 always nice when someone else has done the work! Thanks, I didn’t know about that post, or Sonny’s work.

@Joaquin Be careful not to chase perfection and in the end nothing is completed. The komoot route is a bit cumbersome and komoot is far from perfect (even if I tell komoot to not change the route, the route on my suunto race s is different than on my wife’s apple watch.) The garmin/wahoo way (select a gpx file and use the open with app) would be an improvement, even if not all tbt alerts are perfect. My first gps watch (a ambit 3 sport) only had breadcrumb navigation. Did I ever got lost? No. My watch after that, a forerunner 935, had breadcrumb and tbt alerts. (Which didn’t work well. A route could only have 50 navigation alerts and if you did your route reversed you lost all tbt alerts). Did I ever got lost? No. My first watch with maps (a forerunner 965) and having some context is nice. Eventually garmin fixed the 50 alert limit, but not the reverse problem and they introduced a timing bug (up to 10k the alerts are before a corner, after 20k alerts are in a corner, or after). And yes, on a twisty road you get alerts for every corner. Did I ever get lost? No. Now I have a suunto. Komoot is fine, but could be better. Autodetect of going reverse is good. No problem if I do a round route and the end is detected before the start (garmin has problems with this. Navigations stops when you reach the goal, which could be before you actually started). Autozoom actually works as one would except (garmin had autozoom, but that doesn’t work, or not as one should expect). But do I get lost ever? No. In the end, all are equally good in the “do not get lost” requirement. Is everything perfect? No. But don”t wait until everything is perfect. Release small steps. Get feedback. Improve some more.

@dreamer_ You were right: Pace 4 - black crystal and cloud white. https://x.com/corosjapan/status/2057639416659947996?s=46

@Łukasz-Szmigiel I loaded it up and was able to start an activity. However when I hit the lap button Constantin disappeared the first time I tried. On the second attempt I was able to keep it on the screen. Looks like it might be fixed.

@2b2bff well well well … if you tell to someone who is doing a diet that he lost 5000 g and to his wife that she lost 5 kg … you are right … this is not the same … the wife will be super happy but the man wearing a suunto and for who 43 and 43.0 make a difference will start to question himself about the precision of instrument … how it could have been possible that he arrives preciselly to exact 5000 Joking !!!

@Elipsus no worries, I just shared the “why” : )

@elbee I agree, there should be a simple toggle for morning report without doing anything about sleep tracking.

@cosme.costa said in Strap/Band color suggestion for 90th Anniversary Edition: I do not agree that Suunto’s textile strap is low quality. There are two reasons why I wrote that: The metal clasp at the end of the strap fell off within a few weeks. I was able to fix it back with pliers, but that felt cheap! it came with 2 straps included - a short one and a long one. Well, the short one was too short and the long one was borderline too long. After a couple of months of wearing it, the strap lose a little bit of elasticity that it had and stretched out, so now it was way too long for my wrist. Also, because there no longer was any elastisticity, sometimes it felt uncomfortable on multi-hour trail runs. My wrists aren’t meaty. In comparison, the 90th anniversary strap feels so much more comfortable. It is very similar to Garmin Ultrafit strap too that I used for several years in the past.

@manno02 I’m not using the vertical 2 but this issues seem to happen across several devices. I stopped using the chest strap until this is solved because the OHR works fine on the Suunto Run.

Anyone have issues pairing a Spark with an iPhone? I have an iPhone 17 running iOS 26.5. After pairing, the Suunto App status for the Spark initially shows a green check, but after 2 seconds shows a yellow dot. When clicking on the Spark icon to configure the Spark, it will initially show the left Spark, case, then right Spark. After 2 seconds one of the Sparks gets greyed out, the case may go grey as well, but not always - It changes. When looking at button customization, the Spark that is greyed out shows a circle/exclamation mark. Says it is not connected. I’ve tried forgetting the Spark from my phone, resetting the Spark, deleting and reinstalling the Suunto app, repairing, nothing works. Same behavior on my iPad. I contacted support who were very helpful but nothing changed. They suggested returning it. Before I do, I want to ensure I am not doing something really stupid, and/or that this is a known problem that has a fix or will have. Appreciate any help ya’ll may have. Thanks!

@jmlee I’m sorry it didn’t work. I’ll ask a friend if he’ll let me try it with his 9PP and let you know.

@Thlcd great comparison. I also have noticed that the last update, although full of bugs and battery eating, greatly improved the wrist HR on the Race S. Previously I only used the HR chest strap, but after reading comments here I gave it a chance for walking and body building – for biking the watch is on the handlebar, so I need the strap. Well, after a few tries, I have to say that finally it seems that it works well!

Have to say, what you don’t know you cannot miss. But last year, in a very dark hotelroom, the screenflashlight of my race s was sufficient for my wife to find something on the table while I could stay in bed. So, for now, I’m in “what’s all the fuss about” mode. The digital crown of my race s is complex. Just using it to scroll up or down through menus or items is hideous. The 5 button layout of my previous garmin was better, but with touchscreen I don’t use the buttons very often. But to zoom in and out in a map it’s great. Again with a but. I was used to zoom on the garmin and it was horrible. Complex and buggy as hell. So is the crown just better that worst case garmin or would a 5 button Suunto implementation beat the digital crown? Might. perhaps. Not unlikely. Have to say, the race s provides the features I want in the smallest possible case, so the vertical 2 wouldn’t be competition for my race s (for me). So 5 buttons or a digital crown wasn’t a consideration. Have to say, 5 buttons shouts a bit more outdoorsy and a digital crown a bit more watch like.

@Highlands big thank

Thank you everyone i will wait