Latest Komoot answer. Thanks again for taking the time to test the workaround and share such detailed feedback throughout this investigation. It’s helpful to know that importing the GPX as an Activity first and then copying it to Saved Routes improved the route ending behavior, even though the small offset and the turn-by-turn and climb notification issues are still present on your Suunto Vertical 2. After reviewing all the information you provided, including the original GPX behavior across different platforms, it’s clear that komoot is interpreting this specific route differently during processing. Your detailed comparisons have been especially valuable in narrowing this down. At the moment, komoot still needs to process imported GPX tracks through its routing system, so there isn’t yet a setting that completely preserves the original track geometry in all edge cases. We're constantly developing and working on improving komoot, and rest assured, we're actively listening to the community to incorporate your ideas into our work whenever possible. Since komoot is used for various sports and purposes, we receive a wide range of requests. We collect, categorize, and evaluate all input to understand what will help the most users. I've shared your insights internally for review. You can stay up to date with the latest features and improvements on our What's New and Product Updates pages. Please note that we release weekly updates for the komoot app and website. Ensure your app is updated to take advantage of these improvements. Thanks again for your patience, persistence, and the high level of detail you shared during testing. Have a lovely day, That basically means, end of support using the words an user wants to hear. Komoot’s support admits the issues but just that. Nothing further. This seems a dead-end in any case.

More confirmation of the problem

Yes AMOLED looks great indoors but for long outdoor use I still think MIP has a place. On watches like the Suunto 9 Peak Pro or older endurance models, the always-on readability and battery behaviour just feel more natural for hiking, ultra runs, biking, etc. You glance at it and the information is simply there without the “wake up” feeling AMOLED often has. I d definitely be interested if Suunto released a modern MIP endurance watch again, especially if it kept the cleaner/tool-watch style instead of chasing smartwatch aesthetics. For me the biggest points would be battery life, sunlight readability and lower distraction in daily use. Weight matters too, but I’d still take slightly heavier hardware over another bright AMOLED panel I need to baby during long trips.

@OutdoorMan said in Minimal watchface (feedback): @dreamer_ I personally just need to have a date in time only mode, because I never remember what date it is. And that’s it Totally agree. Battery icon also means you’,ll never forget charging your device but that is my feeling. I consider the rest of the things totally useless

@Mff73 That’s my understanding but @ze-stuart seems to be assuming otherwise, hence my question.

@Łukasz-Szmigiel I loaded it up and was able to start an activity. However when I hit the lap button Constantin disappeared the first time I tried. On the second attempt I was able to keep it on the screen. Looks like it might be fixed.

@Elipsus no worries, I just shared the “why” : )

@elbee I agree, there should be a simple toggle for morning report without doing anything about sleep tracking.

@Webby-Skymaster BTW, I have a similar sensation since I bought the Vertical 2 after all the navigation marketing because of the Q1. They did a nice job but there are several issues and bugs, and while there are nice things, navigation is not that good as advertised (in my opinion). I opened a thread with several things. There’s also a very nice one about the issues of the Climb Guidance 3.0

It’s been happening to me for 2 days now. The first time I didn’t pay much attention to it, but yesterday’s was more “fun.” In the middle of an interval workout, the watch decided to restart itself, ending the activity. When I noticed, I started the same activity again with the same interval workout, and to my surprise it restarted itself two more times. In addition to the activity, I was also using a COROS HRM. I’m trying to send the logs, but the app freezes and won’t even let me send them… a complete disaster.

@MdzOtt yes, SA is the one not doing it ;). In my case with Karoo Gen 3 I see same avg power with zeros included (gold standard) like you get see with garmin/Strava

It’s been a while since the last public release… and finally apple approved the v1.0.17 (google is still reviewing as usual) This is probably one of the biggest updates so far. So, most of you probably already tried that new features in testFlight, btw I want to highlight some of them (smth like release notes): Updated home screen The main page is now card-based, and cards can be rearranged however you like. Better UI performance overall Previously there were noticeable frame drops while moving around the map. Now it much smoother. Groups are now integrated directly into the home screen You can access group invite links right from the main page. Group members are now visible on the map in real time. Added PTT (Push-To-Talk) inside groups (Experimental feature) Basically a walkie-talkie mode between members of an active group. Added automation providers: n8n, Zapier and Make (you know, if you know) Currently available as community nodes or private integrations. They can work with checkpoints, session events, and even Suunto workouts. I’ll probably make a separate detailed post about this later. probably. Sensor Forwarding support (Experimental feature) The app can now be used not only for geo tracking, but also as a sensor forwarding bridge. You can connect sensors to your watch and forward the data through the app into platforms like Zwift or MyWhoosh or froward somewhere else, while still keeping your workout recorded in Suunto ecosystem. Cycling and running profiles are currently supported. Completely rewritten BTLE stack (the conflict with the Suunto App is still not solved because of… you know) So, next releas I probably going to finally focus on localization support as a most requested ‘feature’ in support. Also want to highlight some updates made to the web version: Support for 3D characters on the map You can now choose different character styles in your profile. Drone-like follow mode It’s mimic to drone style tracking camera, a bit… um… “cinematic” from my perspective. Your partner or followers can now see their own position relative to you directly on the map, including live distance and ruller between you. That’s probably it for now. Thanx you all for testing, feedback, and patience.

@jmlee I’m sorry it didn’t work. I’ll ask a friend if he’ll let me try it with his 9PP and let you know.

@pavel.samokha Thank you for the explanation… I didn’t see that update so apologies!

@massimo-trinchieri said in Suunto Spark: @dreamer_ anche io avevo lo stesso problema della sovrapposizione audio, ora non lo fa più ma comunque non dà la metrica di corsa in tempo reale come annunciato. Se faccio partire le cuffie dall’app registra i dati con un file a parte ma non integrato nell’allenamento del race 2 So basically, Italian has the same issue as Spanish with the overlapped audios in English. This is important. Can anybody contact Suunto? Thanks

@Thlcd great comparison. I also have noticed that the last update, although full of bugs and battery eating, greatly improved the wrist HR on the Race S. Previously I only used the HR chest strap, but after reading comments here I gave it a chance for walking and body building – for biking the watch is on the handlebar, so I need the strap. Well, after a few tries, I have to say that finally it seems that it works well!