@GratefulDeadpan said: I have a hypothetical question since there seems to be a lot of se in here. IF (big IF) Suunto moves away from the old OS running in V1/V2/R1/R1S/R2 and instead Run future watches on the Run OS. What does that mean for the current line of watches? Can they be flushed with the new OS or are they relics (albeit working still, but still abandoned in a sense). Wondering if I should return my V2 and just wait this out as my Run is working just as well as the day I bought it. I have zero technical knowledge but I think it can be similar to what happens with garmin on their platform (fenix 7/965) vs (fenix 8/970) , the old gets bug fixes and some features but most features don’t come to it. I belive it is a bit like it as always be…ambits vs spartans vs suunto 5/9/9 peak vs 9 peak pro vertical 1 vs race/race s (anyone correct if wrong). There is the latest and greatest…and yeah slowly less features…

@aiv4r is [image: 0UA9ixY] not a sign? Has been there since I dunno when. There are, from my understanding, already SuuntoPlus apps running natively on the Run, don’t ask me which as I’m not sure.

@Nandodiver I have the tank POD, i believe the transmitter only works with the older computers like Vyper and the D Range of dive watches. I bought the POD in the beginning of this year and i’m not aware that there is a new version available.

I am in Scotland within a mile of the sea. I’m noticing a pattern with the tide widget. The last 2 weekends it has updated without me doing anything different and then will not update again for the rest of the week until the next weekend. I think it will update again this weekend if this pattern continues.

ah here https://www.suunto.com/en-gr/sports/News-Articles-container-page/suunto-core-2-vs-core-1-whats-new-and-why-it-matters/

@Brad_Olwin said: @raven I agree with @sky-runner on Garmin Stamina. An hour or two into a 50k race my stamina is 0 but I was able to go another 4-5h at the same effort and finish the races within 6-7h. When I had a Garmin watch I replicated this several times. Yeah, seems long endurance efforts isn’t the strong point. For me that’s fine. I may do one 20km-22km effort a year, and most of the time I’m doing either 5km or 10km overall efforts. When possible, I like to get time on track and do interval work with 100m, 200m, 400m, and 800m targets, and recoveries in between. This is where ZoneSense might not even register at all for a shorter interval; I might do 200m at 3:30/km, then switch to a walk and see the entire time was “green” as the effort wasn’t long enough. That’s not a slam on ZoneSense; it’s not what it’s meant to do. I’m curious if situations like that might actually register with Garmin’s Stamina or not. Post-session, I can model workouts on intervals.icu and see W’bal effects when I go above my running FTP, but during session there’s no real tool for this I have at the moment. Here’s an example (4x 400m) with Suunto/ZoneSense on left, intervals.icu on right: [image: 1785886036662-5cbf3170-2bf9-4b6b-bd98-26254ab9c2dc-image.jpeg]

@segi_pn when it will be considered ready for beta testing, it will be enabled in beta. Until then, it is not complete and not worth testing.

@elbee you are funny. Often the car manufacturer will not even give an indication of the needed update We have a couple where we are negotiating for a buy back as they can’t solve a software issue. Life isn’t that hard with Suunto. I do have a wahoo and also have the issue. But I didn’t buy the V2 expecting to be able to broadcast to the bike computer so when I can it will be a bonus.

@VoiGAS for the EON, thats correct as they hold both tables. You can switch over or set Buhlmann as default where locks do not occur. But this does not downplay the fact that the ceiling was not followed and decompression was not finalized. This will have impact on further calculations as Buhllman uses its nitrogen buildup for further calculations. So better not to have these sitiations and allways follow the indicators on the computer to the letter. Suunto does make the difference between voluntary or mandatory decompression stops. The RGBM lock only applies to the latter. The screen showed in the link indicates a mandatory situation which is explained by Suunto… you get a warning to go to the ceiling of 6,5 meter. You need to do that within 3 minutes and sit out the deco as long as indicated by the EON, in this case 75 minutes which is far from beeing recreational… If you fail - after warnings like the red ceiling indication and audible signal - to comply within 3 minutes, the computer locks for 48 hours. So you might say it indeed locks during the end of the dive.

@2b2bff Yes, I’m aware. I would expect the watch to refuse executing a 3rd app, regardless if it’s an app or Guides workout, rather than hard crash and reboot.

Tiny fonts again - poor.

@maszop can you give me some details about your disconnects with Vertical 2 and the new firmware? I will forward them to Suunto.

@elbee Thanks for your input but I wasn’t buying it so did some further testing. Fired up my old 9Peak & connected the HR sensor to that, exactly the same outcome with constant connect/disconnect so it’s the sensor that’s faulty rather than my Race. I’ve sent it back to Suunto via online service request & as it’s only 8 months old I’m hoping for a warranty exchange

@babychai No no, never used screen protector. Suunto saphire glass is very good, no need to protect it with a weaker layer IMO. But I think it’s a hardware issue, watch is not in warranty anymore, but I can live with it, until Suunto Vertical 3 release :). Cheers.

@Egika yep, I stiil have it in one of my drawers loved it so much!

@Squirrel don’t know. This is iOS beta 3.13

I’ve had my V2 since mid October and so far not a single crash. I always run 3 S+ non-third party apps. No other issues either.

@bbx100 Thanks for sharing your insight, much appreciated. My race2 is only 10 months old, so I have another 14 to go before it is out of warranty. So far, everything is still working again as expected after doing about 10 ‘moves’ and daily use. Let’s see how it goes with the next firmware update and onwards. If this happens again, I’ll definitly report to Suunto support.

I don’t see this too much on trails but 100% on roads. I think they over corrected a bit with this last update. I constantly get “off route” notifications simply being on the other side of the street running in the correct direction.