Another crash for me again today… I was running a TAO Interval run, while using Zonesense and following a route. During the whole run, the climb screen was black, but the tooth below the screen with turn by turn was visible. My session was quite OK, but during the cool down, while I was scrolling between screens, the watch freezed, and then rebooted. Fortunately, the session has been saved. (I’m on the last fw update) EDIT : and of course, my pace zones have been reset…

@herlas is this measurement all the time or how it works while Training Session?

@leafs93 I can confirm that. Same experience here. Time to settle this with a measuring wheel.;o)

My HR with the Race 2 and the latest firmware is not working either for me. This is a very new device. It worked 35 minutes but then, there’s a moment that the sensor is stuck in very high bpm readings (completely off). [image: 1776034602048-race2_stuck.png] I didn’t expect this at all. In fact, I remember I had a similar issue with the Race 1, and despite having a diferent sensor.

@Squirrel The update hasn’t improved the problem with wakefulness detection in sleep tracking either… I’m recording about 30-60 minutes more sleep time each day than I actually slept… it’s such a shame, it skews the resource and recovery statistics… why does Suunto always smooth out wakefulness with light sleep? Has anyone heard if they’ve fixed this problem?

@pavel.samokha pls check above. Thx

@Nigel-Taylor-0 I keep the touch on: map only (so enabled only on the map screen). After that just tap the ‘tooth’.

Perfect. It’s clear that I was the one who got confused, although it wouldn’t be a bad idea if it could be done. Sometimes sleeping with the watch is a bit uncomfortable. Thanks for your reply.

@Manuel-Extreme said in Real-time sync/info in phone? Is the support staff clueless or what?: If you’re surprised by how support responds, you probably haven’t dealt much with pre-sales support before Sounds like you have not, since you believe that they never awanser questions. I very often talk to pre-sales support.t I have been shopping online since the 90s. If I buy RAM, CPU, or something like that, then I don’t contact the pre-sales support. But if there is a functionality that I am after and I feel the compnay is not really clear in their product page and marceting I always contact them. Or if I want to upgrade my network at home, see a router I want, but there is diffrent revisions of it, and they have diffrent chipset. One revision supports Open-WRT, but the otherones dont. Then I ask the place where I should buy it, from the manufacturer’s sales page or a retailer: What revision of the hardware do you have in stock?. Just as an example, I hate buying somehting get it home, and spending time setting it up to find that a function I was after is not there or is implemented in a bad way.

@tomahawk5000 my vertical shows correctly (if anything, a bit high; Strava adjusts it down). I don’t track distance in alpine skiing (I find irrelevant), only vertical (descent).

@OutdoorMan it doesn’t sound normal, video and location would be welcome next time to test

@OutriggerPaddleJunkie This is done by Garmin, not Suunto, which uses different algorithms for training analysis (TSS, CTL, ATL, TSB). Suunto measures VO2max for things like running, but it’s not particularly relevant for analyzing training and various statistics. It might suggest physical fitness, but it’s only one metric, not necessarily the most important one – especially given that its accuracy is debatable.

@Joseph-Fox why would you think the value should differ? Just because you get the same reading, is not an indication of this function not working. I’d say it is just the same reading.

@maszop My watch was synced with the Suunto app before I set off on my run and I did wait a few minutes before pressing the start button.

[image: 1774424888839-image.jpg] [image: 1774424922036-img_3245.jpeg] Basically I’m switching between these two

@nathayogi said in Recovery watch & App: @Thaler-Martin I come from Garmin, and Amazfit too. At the moment, my Race 2 is on par with Amazfit considering sleep tracking, but slightly more in line with my feelings. Clearly, Suunto is better, for me, at tracking sleep time and HR. HRV is quite equal. The worst is Garmin for me, considering sleep time accuracy and sleep score. HRV interpretation is also worse on Garmin (it takes too much time to adapt to new baseline fluctuation caused by seasons and training load, giving wrong alert in HRV status). Btw, I’m quite new with the Race 2, and have 2 nights to go before receiving HRV status. As far as I remember, Race 2 has two main issues with sleeping (and napping): Reading in a bed is recognized as a sleep (not happening with Garmin), easily adding 1-2 hours of sleep, causing issues with the calculation of Resources and other metrics Working at the desk, with a computer (even a standing desk) was recognised as naps many times No possibility to edit sleep length is a miss I guess. Fixing the above and sync - I am more than happy to jump on the Suunto board again.