@Steven-Hambleton it should, Race S should not be any different from Race 1 in that matter.

@pavel.samokha Thanks. Didn’t intend to sound negative. Suunto’s map update process is a bit of a mystery and must be more complicated than I imagine. As a frequent OSM contributor, I’m probably just more aware of it than others.

@GiPFELKiND I think that is a catch up update for Android. I am not seeing anything in the US for iOS.

Hey guys! If anyone faced up with issue when S+ app turn black and disconnect from the app. could you please try latest 1.8 R9 (it should be in the suunto store already) and let me know if it works also i can confirm that it wont work alongside with structured workouts structured workout also quite greedy of heap mem. live.τ too.

@pavel.samokha Terrain map looks nice and could be useful, but sadly trails disappear from the map too quickly when zooming out, which makes it much less useful for routing. And even when trails are shown they they are too thin unless I zoom in a lot, at which point the terrain is much less useful because of how little map area I see.

@snow after a backlash on reddit, yes.

I’ve posted on another thread but I’ve some doubts about the sessions planned by AI and how much they take account of past performance. My understanding was that Suunto knows this and sets the plan accordingly. This doesn’t seem to work in practice. I’m old and slow - I’m 67 and my Z2 pace is about 8m/km. In the first week of a 10 week trail plan one of the sessions prescribed was a 60 minute 10k run at an ‘easy’ pace in Z2. If the AI understood anything from my previous training it would have made more sense just to specify a 60 minute Z2 run or a 10k Z2 run. But 10k in 60 minutes in Z2 simply isn’t an option for me. Maybe it was 20 years ago. I’d also like the ability to edit sessions. At the moment as far as I can tell I can only change the scheduled day. I’d like much more freedom to edit the details of individual sessions. For example a hill repeats session may include a 10 minute warm up - but if it takes me 20 minutes to run to the hill I intend to use I don’t seem to be able to alter the guide to reflect that. So I have to start the watch some time after setting off or pause it until I reach the hill.

I agree, beeing able to read a whole message for Whatsapp or any other messaging, text or mail app.

@Brad_Olwin the absence of a clear timeline and what to expect gives (to some of us who are not that well connected with Suunto) the perception that it is neglected.

@turbogolub did you try it?

@johann.fuehrer Please also report it via email to support@suunto.com I don’t get the impression suunto support is very active with this problem and more reports might result in more attention.

Thank you very much dear friend We will patiently wait for the next update

Same here with the 9PP after the last firmware update. Since then it happens regularly and as it isn’t reliable anymore I stopped using it regularly. Anyone tried to go back to another earlier FW?

Would be interesting if the Nautic S is a valid competitor too. As fa as I know it misses the Big Display, Dual View (Basic Data plus e.g. Compass) and the battery lifetime which are the big pluses of the nautic. For 5 tankpods/gases and Helium I am not sure So not in the same ballpark, right?

@Ze-Stuart happens to me, too

2.14 (2026-07-07) The heart-rate zone bar and trend chart now react right away in workouts without speed data — indoor sessions, or while waiting for a GPS fix — where they could previously lag behind by a couple of minutes. The view you selected stays selected after lap and other watch overlays, and the trend keeps averaging smoothly through them. Shows – instead of STABLE until there is enough data to judge your effort. Also, I’ve spammed 30+ manual laps and cycled through screens like mad and all is stable as a rock. Just didn’t manage to breake the app or the watch.

@leorus have you set the depth for automatic start to the maximum?

@Sharkhugger I receive the same warnings simply by lifting my left arm to activate the deflator valve of my drysuit. It is often seen as a Ascent speed violation.

@Belli-Sher-Tri @mrkus it is a well known and reported issue of bluetooth sensors dropping connection (power-meters and HR belt monitors) to Vertical/Vertical2/Race/Race2 that Suunto unfortunately (at least officially) continues to refuse to acknowledge. If you search the forum there are multiple instances of this problem reported (and very well documented). ‍️ @brad_olwin @isazi @dimitrios-kanellopoulos @pavel.samokha

Fixed. “modificationTime”: was wrong in the manifest.json.