@elbee I agree, there should be a simple toggle for morning report without doing anything about sleep tracking.

@jmlee I’m sorry it didn’t work. I’ll ask a friend if he’ll let me try it with his 9PP and let you know.

@dreamer_ My experiences with treadmills have been poor in the past and generally I’d prefer a footpod. Back before the pandemic in 2020, I’d often do indoor running at university gym and at that time I only had an Apple Watch, which can estimate pace/distance decently when you do sufficient outdoor running to calibrate it. For example, if I ran an indoor 400m track five times, I’d expect 2000m and I’d get something like 2012m, and that often would be explained by lane switches during the session. Meanwhile, a similar run on a university treadmill would always give me something like 2000m on the watch and 2600-2800m on the treadmill, just vastly giving me too optimistic results. I’m also very familiar with certain paces, so if I wanted to do a steady state effort at 5:00/km for example, setting the tread for 12kmh (which is another problem, most use “speed” rather than “pace,” and for outdoors running, one typically uses pace) would give a result on my watch that I’d be doing closer to 4:00-4:15/km pace, and internally, I knew I was faster than the 5:00/km pace I wanted. These kind of results are often the case when I bother to use a treadmill in a hotel gym when I travel. Most just give faster results that I don’t trust. I also have a sort of philosophical problem with how treadmills give data. Imagine a treadmill is moving at a decent speed, and I put my hands on the arm rails, and use my arms to muscle up and my feet dangle in the air, no longer running and not connected to the treadmill belt. The tread is still in motion and still marking pace and distance. I could even position myself to just get off the treadmill and let it run, gathering “free” distance if I wished. Now, it’s not that I think people are “cheating” the results of treads, but the example is to illustrate that what is being measured isn’t the runner as much as it is the treadmill. Meanwhile, with my indoor bike, if I stop pedaling the bike comes to a stop. On my rowing machine, if I stop my effort, again the flywheel comes to a stop. So it seems to me the equivalent for indoor running is “if my feet stop, metrics stop” which is where I see a footpod as being a better way to track. However, that doesn’t help with the issue of elevation grade changes. One solution is to use a manual treadmill like a Woodway: https://www.woodway.com/manual-treadmills/ and now there’s no motor moving the belt, and these type of treads typically don’t have an adjustable incline. It would also solve an issue of needing a good electrical outlet in older homes that may not be wired for that; simply avoid the need for electricity. Still, most people don’t have manual treadmills, and likely have more faith in their treadmill metrics than I do. Perhaps people who own treads in their home are better at keeping them calibrated, whereas the gyms I’ve been to do not do so. Also, if someone mostly runs on a tread and not outdoors, then it doesn’t matter if the metrics are correct as long as they are consistent, I suppose. So sure, I’d like to see sports watches get the data off of them by bluetooth FTMS. Let the user decide if the metrics are valid.

@2b2bff I wish there was a way to see all the samples that were taken. With Apple Health one can dig and find it as I showed above, which typically people aren’t going to look there all the time, but on occasion it’s nice to be able to inspect all the samples. But Suunto doesn’t write all its samples to Apple Health, so can’t be used to check that. The observation you have, that selecting a point on the HR graph shows a number in a ten minute range, suggests that’s an average of all the samples taken in that time? Or is it something else? Regardless, your own screenshot also shows this issue, that Suunto is saying “min. HR sleep” is one value, but one can find lower numbers looking at the overall range and selecting points. If this is common with all Suunto devices and on both Android/iOS then it seems by design? I would like for there to not be a discrepancy.

@Egika I mean DND during the sleep schedule. Currently way too bright during the night.

Hi, to add some information to the matter, I noticed that if I had “WRIST HEART RATE” disabled, it wasn’t detecting my external chest strap (a new Polar H10). I selected it to avoid interfering with the watch’s optical readings. Therefore, after enabling wrist heart rate in the exercise options, it automatically detects the strap and monitors my heart rate during exercise. I would have to test if, after a medium-length stop during an activity, refueling, a forced pause, and restarting the activity, the heart rate recording with an external band continues… I understand that it will always be available with the optical sensor of the watch.

@galerna said in Security issue with routes: But surprise, surprise, my phone was dead: no battery… This was your security issue. I hope you learned to always have a backup. (I hope you don’t think I’m being pedantic. I sincerely want people to respect the mountains and know the fast changing environment it can be)

@VoiGAS said in HRM 2?: They could just rebrand one of the newer Movesense models and gain features like ECG, temperature and movement. One of the models has the name HR2… It does, but it has a different chip set. I think this is a net-new product.

I have the Tickr and have no issues at all. Works just fine.

I did make some mistakes, but without any impact (wrong signature for getUserInterface, …) The actual real reason I did get the “Maximum SuuntoPlus Apps reached” is because I was using regex in main.js … This is not documented, so warning for all the other devs: do not use regex as this will work with the simulator but not with your watch!

@elbee 100% stryd staying connected but heart rate monitor is gone.

@vinc14 It has been reported at least in these threads: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/15016/vertical-2-2.53.42-map-and-navigation-features-are-greatly-improved-but-there-are-still-a-lot-of-old-issues-and-also-new-bugs-introduced-in-the-latest-update https://forum.suunto.com/topic/15009/climb-guidance-improvement https://forum.suunto.com/topic/15071/several-navigation-issues-feedback/ Considering how good has been Q1, I really hope Q2 to have that fixed with several other navigation things

I did not comment but I’m testing my Spark. So feedback post: Sound quality is really good. Build quality is very nice. They feel really premium. Not so good things: The touch is too sensitive. I have disabled by default the “one click” Audio notifications are exactly the same as without the Spark. I knew that, but I didn’t expect the latin american spanish for Spain. Metrics are not integrated with the watch. I think the S+ app should have two more options: An option to toggle on/off things like navigation audio indications, so users can decide if they want the navigation audio indications (which are very useful in several cases). For that, Suunto should implement the feature (which is still missing). An option to toggle on/off to use the metrics taken from the Spark’s pedometer in the main activity in the watch.I mean, to not have 2 activities in the app (watch and spark). Something similar that what happens when you are using a chest/arm strap. One activity with the much better bpm taken from the chest/armstrap, not two. Something similar happens here with the Spark, since you have 2 additional pedometers that are going to work a lot better than in a one moving arm. For someone that made the effort of buying the Spark, I see this as an important software bug that should be solved. Having 2 individual activities has not sense (at all). Ideally: Go further with a firmware update for using pedometers of the spark for indoor/treadmill runs, if possible of course. Things like voice notes while on workout (if possible). Just those little things for making the Spark a must and a perfect companion.

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I wanted to mention that I had one crash a a few weeks ago, for which I had uploaded the logs, and the crash was then reported into the system with help of @Egika . In my case it was a vanilla Run sport with nothing special about it and me not doing anything with the watch at the time of the crash. The only special thing was, perhaps, is that I used the Run sport for the first time on the watch, but previously I did a number of activities with a customized Trail Run sport. If that helps, I can send you the details (crash time, etc) again in the chat.

@JebClydeNC I went under bluetooth settings on my phone and clicked ‘forget this device’ and had my phone refind the device and that worked!

@sartoric It is red like a fox… the connector is not stainless 316. I guess this will become a general problem (others had same problem like cameras). It can be removed with a rust stopper… but not in the long run.