@pavel.samokha done, shared in Teams

I reported this, it seems a backend/app issue of some kind because it affects watches with all firmware versions. Let me know if it happens again next week (it happened to me on Friday), but I believe it should be fixed soon.

@Sascha-Domres makes sense, I get your point but it is more like I would buy Coros Apex 4 or similar and go to their community and start complaining that they do not support “tags” on activities and I am so dissapointed in all they do

@Thorlap71 Personally, I haven’t tried it. Someone I spoke to did it and I still haven’t received an update from him on whether it had any effect.

@duffman19 Thank you, curiously, the navigation still worked exactly. But it makes sense what you explain. Thank you

@Peter-Pan-0 The only way I know is to use a third party app, like RunGap, to sync it back to the app. I don’t think there is any way to upload it directly to SA.

Regarding step counts, I still think for those who are highly focused on that, getting a waist-based model will likely give better overall accuracy that the majority of watches and is fairly inexpensive. Here’s a quick article to show the style I mean: https://www.verywellfit.com/best-pedometers-4159148 I know people who do activities like knitting or drumming that would get a lot of “accidental steps” if relying on any wrist based model. My own attitude is simpler — steps cannot tell me intensity of effort. The other day I did 5082 steps for one activity, which was a walking effort of 5km with average HR of 92bpm. Then another day I did another 5km effort doing track intervals (100m x 10) which was less steps 4461 but higher average HR of 154bpm. If I were only looking at steps, the second effort seems “weaker” which is the complete opposite result of my own analysis. Of course, the walking session was good for recovery, while the intervals was just a general intense workout. And today we have thunderstorms outside, and while I’ll get a decent amount of steps just going through the house, my primary workout today will be a rowing session which technically is “zero steps,” and yesterday was an hour long cycling workout that also was “zero steps”. Now I know in the Polar ecosystem they have a feature where they can give you “step equivalents” for things like that, but I dislike that system.

@tm3610 said: Any idea if there are rumors of a new Run or smaller, budget variant? IMHO a Run 2 and a Race S successor is to come in the next months. The real question is when…

I’ve noticed that significant battery drain is caused by the 24/7 heart rate monitoring mode. Previously, the watch would measure heart rate every 3 to 5 minutes; however, after the software update, it monitors continuously—24/7—without any breaks unless you take the watch off your wrist.

@snow had it from May last year & until June this year it was fab, no issues whatsoever. Just since June the issues seem to have been. Updated the app, software, etc, used S+, not used S+, but seems no pattern

@MdzOtt said: But I see it’s potential for cycling (to avoid head on wind) I’m glad that you find this useful as this was my initial thought behind the dynamic arrow. Why think about directions if we can compute it from sensors and weather data and visualise easily. I’ve tested red/green marks on opposite directions (head/tail wind) but it was too complex and problematic with colour coding on current vs forecast. So in current version it’s just one arrow for the wind direction relative to the user. Also, I’m using fused direction, so it behaves in the same way as in the map/navigation. Compass when stationary and GPS while above ~ 2 km/h.

@Tamás-Tompa, it wasn’t done in past years, I really doubt that they’ll do something now.

@Brad_Olwin I always run 2-3 days after races. Only for all-out Marathons, I take two weeks off. My HR is not really influenced by these races. It is not more than the usual ±4 bpms during easy runs at aerobic LT. Of course my legs are tired and the muscular effort feels way higher for the pace but HR is the same for the speed that I run. I would be then not able to run for long time at my LT but due to fatigue. HR is then still in the expected corridor for that pace. Only experienced strong deviations of LT HR at return to sport after stronger infections like COVID and always the first 3 days of winter training camp on the canarien islands. There my body is always completely overwhelmed by the sudden 25°C temperature difference. SZ though told me so many times, I would be way above or below my threshold even though RPE, HR, and pace was exactly as expected. During the training camp SZ always told me that my Real-Time effort should be way higher. No way that I could ever run under that sudden higher temps at that HR which was close to my 1k all-out HR. Real-Time effort does not work at all for me, while average reported thresholds over more than hundred activities come close.

@Mff73 Thanks, I’ll test it again. With every long press I should come back a view. Understood! As with Maps Zoom . But in fact I always came back a level but never again to the initial overview of the complete altitude curve of the complete route.

@HonzaS same behavior I saw for my reboots. Immediately following or during a watch notified phone call

@SergioB Thanks! Just tried it on a test walk and it works perfectly. I didn’t realise you could change navigation while in an activity. It worked fine changing navigation from a route to the newly created POI. Thanks, Richard

@Klaas Can you upload the dives log file (json) to Claude AI and ask Claude the simple question why the algorithm deviation occurred? Can you let us know the response?

@GiPFELKiND said: @johann.fuehrer thank you! I will try this ️ I always clean my Suunto watches like every week with normal soap, old hand brush. Daily just with water only after training. Looks like new

@isazi LOL! Damn you Jay!

@Zesty said: @elbee ok thanks. I sent the watch back a second time and hopefully they will exchange it. I appreciate the feedback everyone has shared. You know you can disable bloodoxygen measuring yourself?