@elbee slower development and fewer bugs is always preferred. or let’s say: slower development and in general more complete and matured firmware, software, features… (…still don’t understand how my windows laptop takes ages to connect to the one single connected headphones while my mac just connects when I take them off the charger )

@snow after a backlash on reddit, yes.

@GiPFELKiND I think that is a catch up update for Android. I am not seeing anything in the US for iOS.

@pavel.samokha Wait… we have to wait for the next map update for this fix? It was over two years between the last map updates. Is that the time frame we’re looking at? I don’t understand why this isn’t being addressed more urgently as it affects half of the U.S. I know there aren’t too many Suunto users here, but this feels a bit dismissive of us.

@pavel.samokha Terrain map looks nice and could be useful, but sadly trails disappear from the map too quickly when zooming out, which makes it much less useful for routing. And even when trails are shown they they are too thin unless I zoom in a lot, at which point the terrain is much less useful because of how little map area I see.

@Adrian.S not realy discribe it here - https://forum.suunto.com/post/193011

Would be interesting if the Nautic S is a valid competitor too. As fa as I know it misses the Big Display, Dual View (Basic Data plus e.g. Compass) and the battery lifetime which are the big pluses of the nautic. For 5 tankpods/gases and Helium I am not sure So not in the same ballpark, right?

I’ve posted on another thread but I’ve some doubts about the sessions planned by AI and how much they take account of past performance. My understanding was that Suunto knows this and sets the plan accordingly. This doesn’t seem to work in practice. I’m old and slow - I’m 67 and my Z2 pace is about 8m/km. In the first week of a 10 week trail plan one of the sessions prescribed was a 60 minute 10k run at an ‘easy’ pace in Z2. If the AI understood anything from my previous training it would have made more sense just to specify a 60 minute Z2 run or a 10k Z2 run. But 10k in 60 minutes in Z2 simply isn’t an option for me. Maybe it was 20 years ago. I’d also like the ability to edit sessions. At the moment as far as I can tell I can only change the scheduled day. I’d like much more freedom to edit the details of individual sessions. For example a hill repeats session may include a 10 minute warm up - but if it takes me 20 minutes to run to the hill I intend to use I don’t seem to be able to alter the guide to reflect that. So I have to start the watch some time after setting off or pause it until I reach the hill.

I agree, beeing able to read a whole message for Whatsapp or any other messaging, text or mail app.

I like posts like this. Vertical maybe have no more updates but its very improved since launch. I got it soon it launched (Solar Ti) Than switched to Race 1 like year ago and it was like completly new device. Dont need such a powerful battery and early morning/evening run was better to read with amoled. Switched to Race 2 when came out. Still remember great design and feeling of Vertical 1, and Race 1. V1 is a great hiking/mountaineering watch. I would say I dont understand why Vertical 2 is almost Race 2 but amoled/few% better battery and buttons instead of crown. But than I also understand we cant be mad on Suunto. Its company, and people demand amoled. Yes, there’s still people prefer stronger battery/mip, but its not worth effort for company. Brutal but true. Its not charity. If my main sport/activity would be hiking, I would definitely stay with Vertical 1.

Same here with the 9PP after the last firmware update. Since then it happens regularly and as it isn’t reliable anymore I stopped using it regularly. Anyone tried to go back to another earlier FW?

I have been testing with 3 different LED flashlight on / near / close / up and down to the POD and the Nautic and the computer held its connection state as expected. So I do not expect that the RFI is causing the signal to become in-stable. Maybe a combination with POD pressure buildup in combination with RFI? I hope the Suunto dev teams can find the issue reading my POD and Nautic logs.

@Ze-Stuart happens to me, too

@nmiguelrf I don’t remember well whats was the reason but this was in the watches (Spartan for sure and even early firmwares for the S9B, but I do not remember well) and had some downsizes too, so they switch to determine the zones using the phone. I think that if you search in the forum you can find some threads about this. So, you have to sync your phone to get the correct zone in your watch. BTW, for me it is ok how it works now.

@Milan-Šádek Thanks for confirming! I was actually worried about losing my physiological metrics like HRV baseline and training load history (coming from a Garmin background, a hard reset usually wipes all that training status data). But since Suunto stores all these trends in the cloud/app, I feel much safer doing it now. I’ll go ahead with the factory reset tonight to clear out whatever is blocking the sync, and then reinstall my offline maps. I’ll let you know if it successfully fixes the “My Plan” workout sync! Thanks again for the help.

@Niels-Søren-Bøgh Thanks. That is what I thought.but I was hoping that there was an option to configure the TTS/NDL screen so that TTS was traded-in for the Tank Pressure. In our waters here in NL the Tides / Currents / Shipping routes require me to have the compass screen as my primary screen in front of me at all time. This screen does not provide me Tank Pressure so switching to the main screen is required. I hope Suunto will make a 1 field Compass view somewhere in the future.

@Hugues78fr you can paste pictures on a laptop. On a phone or tablet it doesn’t work on this forum.

@janiroodt I recommend that you read this: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/14710/race-2-accuracy/123 It appears that there is a correction in progress.

@ccrhenrik This is usual behavior for nearly all smartwatches I know (not only Suunto) that they can pair to only one app connection. You need i.e. to disable bluetooth on the other device (or to unpair it in BT, but then you need to pair again) , then it switches to the app on the second device. This is how I have solved it.

Maybe it’s because it is too similar to Ocean and serious divers or active people don’t buy limited version watch. Nautic S falls in that gray zone, where it’s not way cheaper than Ocean, yet looses some functionality and maybe not enough market for that product?