@elbee slower development and fewer bugs is always preferred. or let’s say: slower development and in general more complete and matured firmware, software, features… (…still don’t understand how my windows laptop takes ages to connect to the one single connected headphones while my mac just connects when I take them off the charger )

@aiv4r I think he is talking about this matter : https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2026/06/bricking-latest-updates.html

@mickywickyftw thanks for the update, I’ll try this week hopefully (on the same road, to compare). One suggestion could be to wait for a few more seconds when the slope reduces before using standard formula (I totally ignore if there are mathematics models behind this, just intuition and probably hard to calibrate). I mean we are still fast for a while when the grade drops from -4% to -2% for example.

@sky-runner For me, ZoneSense matches my breathing quite well. I’ve been using it almost every day for over one years.

Would be interesting if the Nautic S is a valid competitor too. As fa as I know it misses the Big Display, Dual View (Basic Data plus e.g. Compass) and the battery lifetime which are the big pluses of the nautic. For 5 tankpods/gases and Helium I am not sure So not in the same ballpark, right?

@Lazyjones thanx for feedback! copy/paste coordinates it’s really good catch! regarding maps, for now we use openfreemap as a tile provider but i could agree outdoor / hiking maps is not their strong point. unfortunatelly major providers like a maptiler or mapbox significantly out of budget. Now i’m looking to self-host tiles, let’s see.

I agree, beeing able to read a whole message for Whatsapp or any other messaging, text or mail app.

@Stoke80 Personally I expect the new update in first weeks of July, since it would be nice tonhave new things to try over summer. (Also not sure how much is still happening in Finland, but vacation season should be starting). But also probably not going to release new fw during Val D’Aran weekend, so maybe next week. Complete guess of course or maybe just wishful thinking hehe

@Calando Why is a chest strap necessary? Beat-by-beat data: ZoneSense uses a proprietary physiological algorithm (DDFA) that analyzes Heart Rate Variability (HRV) to determine stress and intensity levels. Optical limitations: Optical sensors (OHR) cannot reliably measure RR intervals (the exact time between heartbeats) while you are in motion. They are only accurate for this metric when you are at complete rest, such as during sleep. When pairing a chest strap, your watch will automatically disable the optical wrist monitor to ensure the data source provides the necessary accuracy for functionality.

@Marcelo-Mönch ditto!

An app like this would be super useful for planning longer ultramarathons on trails where the terrain is always variable. I did a similar plan many times where I try to come up with a target time for each aid station on the race course and then during the race see how I perform against that - whether I am ahead or behind the plan. The main problem is that as long as segments are based on distances, they aren’t going to be accurate and often deviate towards the end of the race. Perhaps for officially measured road races distances are accurate, but for trail races they are usually not. Towards the end of a race, distance that you have on your watch can easy be up to 5% off from the official distance, depending how accurately the official race distance was measured. Often, tace officials just use distance from CalTopo or other online mapping tool, and that is often way too short. It would be super nice if segments were defined by waypoints on the navigation route and if Suunto supported an extension of navigation route that allows including timestamps. That would allow building on the estimated pacing plan right into the navigation route. Garmin does actually have that and the Pace Pro feature utilizes that, and some 3rd part tools like Ultrapacer can generate a plan that can be loaded on a Garmin watch. I think a feature like this should be built-in, or at least have some built-in support - like an ability to load a timed GPX (GPX with relative timestamps) and tell you how much you are ahead of behind when following the route. Then more advanced apps could be built on top of that.

I have been testing with 3 different LED flashlight on / near / close / up and down to the POD and the Nautic and the computer held its connection state as expected. So I do not expect that the RFI is causing the signal to become in-stable. Maybe a combination with POD pressure buildup in combination with RFI? I hope the Suunto dev teams can find the issue reading my POD and Nautic logs.

I like posts like this. Vertical maybe have no more updates but its very improved since launch. I got it soon it launched (Solar Ti) Than switched to Race 1 like year ago and it was like completly new device. Dont need such a powerful battery and early morning/evening run was better to read with amoled. Switched to Race 2 when came out. Still remember great design and feeling of Vertical 1, and Race 1. V1 is a great hiking/mountaineering watch. I would say I dont understand why Vertical 2 is almost Race 2 but amoled/few% better battery and buttons instead of crown. But than I also understand we cant be mad on Suunto. Its company, and people demand amoled. Yes, there’s still people prefer stronger battery/mip, but its not worth effort for company. Brutal but true. Its not charity. If my main sport/activity would be hiking, I would definitely stay with Vertical 1.

@DonTomGot Excellent, I think I understand why I’d want to use this now

@rémiP Thanks. This seems problematic. Is there any reason for this behavior @suuntopartnerteam?

@stavrogin - Third party own the data that is displayed on their imported workouts on Suunto, for TP there’s this ER idea to add the step counter, feel free to vote for it. https://peaksware.uservoice.com/forums/106657-trainingpeaks-customer-feedback/suggestions/46005451-interval-counter-on-suunto-s-structured-workouts Adding to my previous post, after disabling the auto lap, you can setup your own screens to see avg numbers for whatever metric you want and it’ll be for that step of the workout. But definitely you cannot see what step you’re on with TP workouts, until TP implements above idea. On your question about undoing a manual lap, it’s not possible, and when doing a manual lap while executing a workout from TP or any other place, it’ll skip the current step. This is by design and cannot be altered. With that said, Training Peaks has the best screen for executing structured works, the only missing piece is the step count in my opinion

@Ze-Stuart happens to me, too

@nmiguelrf I don’t remember well whats was the reason but this was in the watches (Spartan for sure and even early firmwares for the S9B, but I do not remember well) and had some downsizes too, so they switch to determine the zones using the phone. I think that if you search in the forum you can find some threads about this. So, you have to sync your phone to get the correct zone in your watch. BTW, for me it is ok how it works now.

@Milan-Šádek Thanks for confirming! I was actually worried about losing my physiological metrics like HRV baseline and training load history (coming from a Garmin background, a hard reset usually wipes all that training status data). But since Suunto stores all these trends in the cloud/app, I feel much safer doing it now. I’ll go ahead with the factory reset tonight to clear out whatever is blocking the sync, and then reinstall my offline maps. I’ll let you know if it successfully fixes the “My Plan” workout sync! Thanks again for the help.

@Niels-Søren-Bøgh Thanks. That is what I thought.but I was hoping that there was an option to configure the TTS/NDL screen so that TTS was traded-in for the Tank Pressure. In our waters here in NL the Tides / Currents / Shipping routes require me to have the compass screen as my primary screen in front of me at all time. This screen does not provide me Tank Pressure so switching to the main screen is required. I hope Suunto will make a 1 field Compass view somewhere in the future.