@Sascha-Domres makes sense, I get your point but it is more like I would buy Coros Apex 4 or similar and go to their community and start complaining that they do not support “tags” on activities and I am so dissapointed in all they do

@isazi sent, thank you for the help.

@dreamer_ said: Btw, It seems I can count 3 mayor betas in 2026 (splitted in 15 minor announced versions only this year). It is not the same release calendar/features as for the supported watches, but the bug fixes are there (even for Garmin). It is also more than nothing. Yeah, on paper it sounds good, but essentially each version had some serious issues for some people. Always the question of “Should I really upgrade beyond version …?” in the forums. I understand Suunto is focused in the new watches but it’s also a lot of time a watch like the Vertical is forgotten with the remaining bugs. And, when bugs, this can be a very bad image of the brand for the users that have the watch. Reminds me on Nokia and its N9, where they pushed a final update eliminating most of the bugs (over 1000 IIRC) before pulling the (support) plug. I also feel that is the right thing to do.

I like the wind direction arrow the best. I’ll have to use it during a real exercise to see how well it works. But I see it’s potential for cycling (to avoid head on wind) and sailing. Of course, the issue is always where from the weather data comes. Unfortunately, usually, it is not overly granular.

@Thorlap71 Personally, I haven’t tried it. Someone I spoke to did it and I still haven’t received an update from him on whether it had any effect.

@isazi sent

Since Suunto still shows no meaningful response and reports of Nautic issues keep piling up, I have now reported the Nautic through the European product safety system as a potentially dangerous product. Given the false mandatory gas-time alarms and other incorrect dive data, I think an independent safety review is overdue. I’ll keep you updated. [image: 1786372833520-screenshot-2026-08-10-164007.png]

@tm3610 said: Any idea if there are rumors of a new Run or smaller, budget variant? IMHO a Run 2 and a Race S successor is to come in the next months. The real question is when…

@Peter-Pan-0 It should all still be on the watch. You can check by going to the Logbook. If it has all the stats just like the activity summary screen, especially the graphs (HR, zone chart, elevation profile), then all the data should still be on the watch. If it only shows a small summary of distance and time, then the full dataset is not on the watch. Activities are deleted from oldest to newest to free up room when necessary. I’ve had to recover activities stored on the watch before and it isn’t totally straight forward. I think the process goes something like this: Delete the activity from SA Unpair watch from SA and remove SA connection from watch (Settings > Connectivity > Paired devices > MobileApp) Remove watch from phone’s BT connection Sign out of SA (this removes an activity data saved to the device) Close SA (you can go one step further and delete/redownload SA, but I don’t know if that’s necessary) Open and sign back in to SA Re-pair watch When the watch is re-paired, SA will look for any stored activities on the watch that are not already attached to your account. Honestly, all you might need to do is delete the activity and then sign out and back in to SA. The above just covers all the bases. I’ll stress that this has worked for me in the past, but, obviously, make sure you save a backup of the activity before you delete it! Either directly from the Suunto App or from another connected service. If, for some reason, the above doesn’t work, there are ways to get the .FIT file back on to your Suunto account, although that’s not straight forward either.

@jj-frl the tracks for past activities are shown in the colour of the activity. E.g., green for walking, reddish/orange for biking, blue for sailing, etc.

@snow 5, just as a watch, it hasn’t been working for 7 days; generally, 5-6 days max. This all started after the firmware upgrade. Otherwise, it used to give 10+ days on a charge as a watch, and with 10+ hours of GPS-only (no heart rate), it used to give me 7 days of battery easily. (Don’t have Bluetooth on for any notifications) I have noticed that 2 to 3 hours of GPS use drains 6-8% of the battery. I have already lost hope with Suunto on this matter.

I had 4 restarts out of the blue. Activities with SuuntoPlus, Activities without, even once in the middle of the night. And I had massive problems using a wall plug in my last holidays, as I have written before. But all of this is stretched over almost 2 years. So, yeah, I’m still using the watch. But my life does not depend on it…

@HonzaS same behavior I saw for my reboots. Immediately following or during a watch notified phone call

@BokiRun In terms of heart rate, I have no complaints about the RUN. I compared it with a Polar H9 during a vigorous workout, and it was flawless.

@André-Faria said: @sky-runner at least on the race s is there,down button and it will lock the screen If you mean button shortcuts, I already use them for other functions - one for the flashlight and another for the “Find my phone” function that I use often. Locking the screen via the control panel requires a lot of steps. As I said, not activating the touch until one of the buttons is pressed would be a perfectly usable solution. Another solution would be a touch unlock by swiping the screen similar to what Garmin has. When under rain or shower, a natural droplet movement direction across the screen is either right to left (this is how the watch enters control panel) or left to right, or bottom to top. Garmin requires top to bottom swipe to unlock the touch which doesn’t occur naturally when droplets hit the screen.

@Mff73 Thanks, I’ll test it again. With every long press I should come back a view. Understood! As with Maps Zoom . But in fact I always came back a level but never again to the initial overview of the complete altitude curve of the complete route.

@Zesty said: @elbee ok thanks. I sent the watch back a second time and hopefully they will exchange it. I appreciate the feedback everyone has shared. You know you can disable bloodoxygen measuring yourself?

@SergioB Thanks! Just tried it on a test walk and it works perfectly. I didn’t realise you could change navigation while in an activity. It worked fine changing navigation from a route to the newly created POI. Thanks, Richard

Sidemount 2x 11.1 L is also incorrect [image: 1786292268878-s12.png]

@GiPFELKiND said: @johann.fuehrer thank you! I will try this ️ I always clean my Suunto watches like every week with normal soap, old hand brush. Daily just with water only after training. Looks like new