@Sascha-Domres makes sense, I get your point but it is more like I would buy Coros Apex 4 or similar and go to their community and start complaining that they do not support “tags” on activities and I am so dissapointed in all they do

@pavel.samokha done, shared in Teams

I reported this, it seems a backend/app issue of some kind because it affects watches with all firmware versions. Let me know if it happens again next week (it happened to me on Friday), but I believe it should be fixed soon.

@Thorlap71 Personally, I haven’t tried it. Someone I spoke to did it and I still haven’t received an update from him on whether it had any effect.

@hhouter I had the same issue this morning on my Ocean. Freaked me out a bit. I was 17.5m down, shortly after starting the dive. Interestingly looking at my gas consumption graph in the app, it spiked through the roof momentarily when the Mandatory Gas Time alarm fired. Definitely a bug

@dreamer_ said: Btw, It seems I can count 3 mayor betas in 2026 (splitted in 15 minor announced versions only this year). It is not the same release calendar/features as for the supported watches, but the bug fixes are there (even for Garmin). It is also more than nothing. Yeah, on paper it sounds good, but essentially each version had some serious issues for some people. Always the question of “Should I really upgrade beyond version …?” in the forums. I understand Suunto is focused in the new watches but it’s also a lot of time a watch like the Vertical is forgotten with the remaining bugs. And, when bugs, this can be a very bad image of the brand for the users that have the watch. Reminds me on Nokia and its N9, where they pushed a final update eliminating most of the bugs (over 1000 IIRC) before pulling the (support) plug. I also feel that is the right thing to do.

@duffman19 thanks I will try. I can export a fit or JSON file. But how would I insert it later in case it doesn’t sync the deleted activity?

Regarding step counts, I still think for those who are highly focused on that, getting a waist-based model will likely give better overall accuracy that the majority of watches and is fairly inexpensive. Here’s a quick article to show the style I mean: https://www.verywellfit.com/best-pedometers-4159148 I know people who do activities like knitting or drumming that would get a lot of “accidental steps” if relying on any wrist based model. My own attitude is simpler — steps cannot tell me intensity of effort. The other day I did 5082 steps for one activity, which was a walking effort of 5km with average HR of 92bpm. Then another day I did another 5km effort doing track intervals (100m x 10) which was less steps 4461 but higher average HR of 154bpm. If I were only looking at steps, the second effort seems “weaker” which is the complete opposite result of my own analysis. Of course, the walking session was good for recovery, while the intervals was just a general intense workout. And today we have thunderstorms outside, and while I’ll get a decent amount of steps just going through the house, my primary workout today will be a rowing session which technically is “zero steps,” and yesterday was an hour long cycling workout that also was “zero steps”. Now I know in the Polar ecosystem they have a feature where they can give you “step equivalents” for things like that, but I dislike that system.

@tm3610 said: Any idea if there are rumors of a new Run or smaller, budget variant? IMHO a Run 2 and a Race S successor is to come in the next months. The real question is when…

@snow had it from May last year & until June this year it was fab, no issues whatsoever. Just since June the issues seem to have been. Updated the app, software, etc, used S+, not used S+, but seems no pattern

@jj-frl the tracks for past activities are shown in the colour of the activity. E.g., green for walking, reddish/orange for biking, blue for sailing, etc.

@snow 5, just as a watch, it hasn’t been working for 7 days; generally, 5-6 days max. This all started after the firmware upgrade. Otherwise, it used to give 10+ days on a charge as a watch, and with 10+ hours of GPS-only (no heart rate), it used to give me 7 days of battery easily. (Don’t have Bluetooth on for any notifications) I have noticed that 2 to 3 hours of GPS use drains 6-8% of the battery. I have already lost hope with Suunto on this matter.

@Brad_Olwin I always run 2-3 days after races. Only for all-out Marathons, I take two weeks off. My HR is not really influenced by these races. It is not more than the usual ±4 bpms during easy runs at aerobic LT. Of course my legs are tired and the muscular effort feels way higher for the pace but HR is the same for the speed that I run. I would be then not able to run for long time at my LT but due to fatigue. HR is then still in the expected corridor for that pace. Only experienced strong deviations of LT HR at return to sport after stronger infections like COVID and always the first 3 days of winter training camp on the canarien islands. There my body is always completely overwhelmed by the sudden 25°C temperature difference. SZ though told me so many times, I would be way above or below my threshold even though HR and pace was exactly as expected. During the training camp SZ always told me that my Real-Time effort should be way higher. No way that I could ever run at that HR which was close to my 1k call-out HR. Real-Time effort does not work at all for me, while average reported thresholds over more than hundred activities come close.

I like the wind direction arrow the best. I’ll have to use it during a real exercise to see how well it works. But I see it’s potential for cycling (to avoid head on wind) and sailing. Of course, the issue is always where from the weather data comes. Unfortunately, usually, it is not overly granular.

@BokiRun In terms of heart rate, I have no complaints about the RUN. I compared it with a Polar H9 during a vigorous workout, and it was flawless.

@Mff73 Thanks, I’ll test it again. With every long press I should come back a view. Understood! As with Maps Zoom . But in fact I always came back a level but never again to the initial overview of the complete altitude curve of the complete route.

@HonzaS same behavior I saw for my reboots. Immediately following or during a watch notified phone call

@SergioB Thanks! Just tried it on a test walk and it works perfectly. I didn’t realise you could change navigation while in an activity. It worked fine changing navigation from a route to the newly created POI. Thanks, Richard

Sidemount 2x 11.1 L is also incorrect [image: 1786292268878-s12.png]

@Klaas Can you upload the dives log file (json) to Claude AI and ask Claude the simple question why the algorithm deviation occurred? Can you let us know the response?