After few months with Race 2 and previouse owning of Suunto 5 and Ambit 2 here is my opinion. Amoled has great colors and great refresh rate. But thats it. Benefits of MIP for me: It always show time, no need for specific rise to wake move. Even slight move of hand wakes watch and i can see full watchface. This was great in day to day use when working etc. In night with low backlight is not so agresive agains eyes compared to bright amoled even on low brightnes. In sport modes always visible even on bike handle no fallback to limited AOD. In daylight great visibility without higher consumption of battery as MIP doesn’t need any backlight during daytime. I buy watch once in a while so since i bought Race 2 lately. I am not interested in any new model MIP or Amoled in next 5 years. But than if available i would prefer MIP version over Amoled but only if all other spec of MIP watch was same.

@Efejota said in Offline Maps and Routing in Suunto App: Offline apparently requires that the watch has been paired (previously?) I just tried this since I was wondering the same thing (I have two phones that I switch between, one running old SA software and one with the new offline map option). So it will work, but the key is to remove the pairing from the watch only (Settings > Connectivity > Paired devices > MobileApp > Forget). This will keep the watch associated with the device you are moving away from and thus keep the offline maps as available option. However, if you remove the watch from the app by using the “Manage connection” option, offline maps disappear. I assume this will work for a tablet running SA as well.

@masta which OS?

@ADidier I totally see your point. However, I think sleep tracking is hard. It took Apple forever to roll this out and they have a huge user base. Clearly I think Apple leads the pack here. Suunto has a touch choice, either do what the market demands or lose sales. I would rather a company, any company get it right maybe with less features so no deep, REM and light but absolutely accurate sleep times. I agree with you, I would use that if I knew it was always correct.

@brave_dave No, fortunately I don’t experience continuous disconnection issues. It only happens in water due to the physical limitations of Bluetooth transmission. When the arm comes out of the water, the connection is restored automatically without any problems. At least with the Vertical 2. Which device are you using?

@shamilt1 Also these look very similar to Shokz OpenFit, OpenFit 2, OpenFit Pro, all of which are not bone conducting headphones.

@Egika adding my N of one, I also find it measures consistently different from every other watched I’ve used (a few from COROS, Garmin, and other Suunto watches, the Vertical 2, Race S, and Race). More telling, though, is those other watches all measure very close to my measuring wheel. The Race 2 measures shorter than my wheel, so in my experience, the Race 2 does indeed measure short. Thanks for your help on this!

@Nelson-Diogo I ran 17 km this morning. And there was no loss of connection between the watch and the heart rate strap. But we’ll see what happens tomorrow. But the same thing happened before. Sometimes I finish training and the watch does not lose connection with the heart rate belt.

@safari Uh, but do they actually monitor: Running Dynamics: step cadence, total steps, and vertical oscillation. Running Symmetry: balance between your left and right feet by comparing ground contact time. Activity Stats: records ascent and descent (elevation changes), estimated calories, and the total duration of the workout. Cervical Mobility Assessment: perform a test where you move your head (up/down and side-to-side) to measure the symmetry of movement between your left and right sides ? There’s no mention here

@snow said in New firmware 2.53.42: You need to start the activity Ah! Yes… That works. This was incredibly convoluted… Thanks. Hope my bumbling around will help other users. Edit: Everybody is talking about the Menu only accessible from the Map screen itself (the 3 lines/hamburger icon). Edit 2: And it works even without any Route loaded. Great!

@Squirrel The update hasn’t improved the problem with wakefulness detection in sleep tracking either… I’m recording about 30-60 minutes more sleep time each day than I actually slept… it’s such a shame, it skews the resource and recovery statistics… why does Suunto always smooth out wakefulness with light sleep? Has anyone heard if they’ve fixed this problem?

I’ve been using a Polar H10 and Morpheus M7 with both my Race 2 and Vertical 1 for road and trail running and CrossFit and have had none of the issues mentioned here

@Horizontal_2 said in Batterie drain since the new Update: I’ve found something else! I did experience the drain as well. in 3 hours a drain of 3%. The Wireless Network and Discovery were on. That’s a battery killer as well Yep, turning these off definitely helps

@Sportsfreund said in Suunto and Concept 2 indoor rowing: Good work, guy. But really, there’s no need for a connection like this. The PM5 needs to be connected to a smartphone to plan and upload races. What we need is a connection from C2 to Suunto to actually use the load values ​​in CTL/ATL, etc. A connection from the C2 logbook to import into Suunto seems not within the scope of what is possible with a SuuntoPlus app, but rather, that ability would need to come from a collaboration of Concept2/Suunto themselves. If Suunto wishes to do that, then perhaps they can also talk to SmartRow so sessions from the SR logbook could also auto-upload to Suunto? http://www.smartrow.fit/ This setup would be for people not currently using the PM5 bluetooth connection to send data elsewhere like ErgData or EXR, etc. People on alternate rowers like the RP3 or the SmartRow system I use may one day benefit from the work here if it extends beyond the Concept2. I have two data connections from my power meter, so one can go to my SmartRow app and another could go to a connection like this. Perhaps eventually C2 will update the PM5 to allow dual bluetooth signals as many cycling power meters have.

Hello everyone, same problem here (again) because a while ago Suunto’s technical service replaced my Suunto belt due to the same connection problems, after approximately 6 months of use of the Suunto band. Tomorrow I will completely disconnect the band, install a new battery (after resetting the Suunto band) and then test it again with activity. I’ve also considered that it might be possible using “Sports Mode Customization” after the last update a few days ago…it’s a shame and quite strange because. Today I even started experiencing watch restarts when I unpaired the power meter from the bike, as I was ruling out sensors. After a 55-minute activity, it started disconnecting again approximately every 2 minutes. I’ve attached images showing the clock reset and error message, in case it provides any useful information. [image: 1775762054897-20260409_180436.jpg] [image: 1775762054929-20260409_180435.jpg] [image: 1775762054949-20260409_180300.jpg]

@freeheeler said in Recovery: watch and SA differ: @emkei me too… but I found a workaround: in movescount suunto promoted the phone as an extended watch display: that’s what I do. I use the watch mainly to track and record and look at the data in the app only. which data is correct? I don’t know. but it is where I see a long term trend. and I don’t want to worry Yes, this is probably the only way - but still awkward as Suunto is the only company I know having this issue. Unfortunately, this was not the only reason I left - there were differences between watch, iOS app and iPadOS in: steps TSS Recovery Resources HRV And sleep tracking was really off (especially if ready at bed, or working at a standing desk) The thread: Recovery watch & App