My v2 tests are ongoing. My eyes have gotten used to the AMOLED screen. Battery consumption is definitely higher than v1. 3 days of training, walking, and daily use (maybe I played with the flashlight a bit too ) On the 3rd day, the charge was 69%. AOD (Automatic On/Off) was not always on, brightness was medium, otherwise everything else was on. My first impression is that connecting to GPS in dense forests is much faster than v1. I’m continuing to test it.

@maszop Thanks. And weirdly it has now synced correctly some 20+ hours after finishing the activity. That’s what usually happens an hour or two after I’ve grumbled about it on here. I’m inclined to suspect some sort of Bluetooth issue but whether it’s the phone or the watch I can’t say. It’s annoying.

@EzioAuditore said in What do you think of the Suunto Spark?: @Brad_Olwin Yes I have the Pro 3. Great in everything except for running. Maybe I should try other ear tips Ang give it a try. But after the open ear headphones I don’t wont to be fully isolated. The Pro 3 have complete transparency mode so there is no isolation at least not in my experience. They also have an adaptive transparency that I find works well especially with noisy environments where background is a bit muted but nearby and abrupt sounds are well transmitted.

1.0.16(93) appears to be working for me now. Thanks! I’ll test it on a run tomorrow probably.

@gkaempfer Same here

@Brad_Olwin @aiv4r I completely agree with you.

@brave_dave No, fortunately I don’t experience continuous disconnection issues. It only happens in water due to the physical limitations of Bluetooth transmission. When the arm comes out of the water, the connection is restored automatically without any problems. At least with the Vertical 2. Which device are you using?

I was thinking this was about the titanium Race 2 because It seems you all are comparing the Race 2 titanium with the Vertical 2 titanium. But the thing is I have the Race 2 steel and I’m seeing a little discrepancy of what I have recorded with Garmin. But my watch is very new (2 days) and I need much further testing. There’s also something very strange with the Race 2 (at this very new moment for now). When I import a GPX track (downloaded from Garmin Connect) into Komoot to have the turn-by-turn indications while navigating with the Race 2, is like the indications are a bit later than they should (just some few seconds). When there’s a roundabout, or a turn it seems the watch pop-ups the remaining indication a bit later or even after the turn or roundabout. I need more testing but I’m posting this because I don’t know if it can be related with the issue you are posting here. And the thing is that those tracks are working fine in Garmin and other brands. Or perhaps does not have sense at all, but using the same track for both the Race 2 and the Vertical 2, perhaps there’s a mechanism to see if there’s any delay with the GNSS of the Race 2. I’d be interesting if someone could test the navigation with the same track and indications with the Race 2 and the Vertical 2 to see if there are GNSS discrepancies.

The watch and phone are connected via Bluetooth, and I’m receiving notifications, but the app shows no connection. I turned Bluetooth off and on on the phone, but it didn’t fix the problem. What else can I do? [image: 1776097483350-a11.jpg]

I don’t know what the battery is. I’ll check. But I was thinking of trying to replace the battery. This morning, during training, the watch lost connection with the heart rate monitor again. So the problem still exists. This takes approximately 30 to 45 seconds and then the connection is re-established.

@borgelkranz said in Suunto and Concept 2 indoor rowing: @off242 what I can add: as of late, SmartRow does directly connect to EXR. What I learned in that context: there are different versions of the SmartRow pulley. The old, silver one and the new, black one. They seem to differ slightly with respect to connection. I own the silver one and EXR had to provide a bug fix for it to connect. The ability of EXR to connect to the SmartRow pulley directly is a fairly new development, and happened due to collaboration between the two companies. For those new to this, previously the only way to work was by a “broadcast” method, where the SmartRow pulley connected to the SmartRow app on one device (like an iPhone) then the SR app “broadcast” to EXR on a second device (e.g. iPad or Apple TV). You’re correct that the original silver metal pulley behaves a bit different from later black plastic pulleys. Both transmit in SmartRow’s own format as I understand with subtle differences. The “broadcast” method is either FTMS or very close to it. Some people disliked this method due to requiring two devices; additionally, the broadcast method adds a slight delay, so EXR is about a half-stroke “behind” the SR app. The new “direct connection” improves things in most regards, but has the negative consequence that sessions are no longer written to the SmartRow online logbook. EXR can write session data to the Concept2 logbook for those people, but not yet to the SR one. Additionally, SmartRow also has a “power handle” meant for air-resistance rowers like the Concept2. People who happened to get a cheaper air-resistance machine with poor metrics can get this handle to get more accurate data. However, I suspect the cost of a cheaper rower and the SmartRow handle would be close enough to the Concept2 one might just get that anyway. The SmartRow handle also works with the Concept2, and while C2 people don’t necessarily need better data (given C2 is the standard) the handle also has four buttons, each with two top/bottom selections which can be used to do things like control a music player and perhaps eventually may have game effects in EXR (like the Zwift Play buttons in the cycling world). SmartRow is working on a “handle version” for WaterRower to give those media controls over there as well, and that version of the handle has dual bluetooth support, which allows one to have that direct EXR connection as well as a second connection to SmartRow app for those who want consistent logbook records. I believe the handle versions qualify as FTMS based on SmartRow’s web site.

@snow said in New firmware 2.53.42: You need to start the activity Ah! Yes… That works. This was incredibly convoluted… Thanks. Hope my bumbling around will help other users. Edit: Everybody is talking about the Menu only accessible from the Map screen itself (the 3 lines/hamburger icon). Edit 2: And it works even without any Route loaded. Great!

@Squirrel The update hasn’t improved the problem with wakefulness detection in sleep tracking either… I’m recording about 30-60 minutes more sleep time each day than I actually slept… it’s such a shame, it skews the resource and recovery statistics… why does Suunto always smooth out wakefulness with light sleep? Has anyone heard if they’ve fixed this problem?

I’ve been using a Polar H10 and Morpheus M7 with both my Race 2 and Vertical 1 for road and trail running and CrossFit and have had none of the issues mentioned here

@Horizontal_2 said in Batterie drain since the new Update: I’ve found something else! I did experience the drain as well. in 3 hours a drain of 3%. The Wireless Network and Discovery were on. That’s a battery killer as well Yep, turning these off definitely helps

@dreamer_ btw, you can check all new update in this PDF. Some points very importants for experts users like you: https://we.tl/t-mdAFQfunNp2pyc2a LAUNCH NOTES Q1 - 2026 Race S, Race, Race 2, Vertical, Vertical 2 LAUNCH NOTES – PAGE 1 • Smart Navigation – Smart OFF ROUTE (intelligent off-route alerts based on speed, direction and distance) – Off-route guidance (distance and direction to the closest point of the route) – Track Back (automatic route creation based on breadcrumbs) – Smart Autozoom Turns (dynamic zoom when approaching a turn based on distance, direction and speed) – Climb Guidance 3.0 – Smart consecutive turn management (the next turn is not shown until the current one is completed if turns are <20 m apart) – Customizable map data field (up to 5 configurable data fields such as HR, power, distance, etc.) • Configuration from the watch – Enable / disable ascent and descent notifications in Climb Guidance – Enable / disable turn-by-turn navigation – Enable / disable Smart Autozoom Turns – Automatic routing during activities using Suunto App offline maps (requires Suunto App update in April) LAUNCH NOTES – PAGE 2 • Maps 2.0 – Maximum map detail at 500 m zoom – City names – Important place names – Peak names – Contour line altitude labels – POIs displayed on the map (bar, hospital, water source, parking, etc.) • New elevation model for route planning – Updated elevation model used when creating routes in Suunto App – Built using more than 135 different elevation data sources – Reduces noise previously observed on steep terrain – Provides more accurate ascent and descent calculations when planning routes LAUNCH NOTES – PAGE 3 • Swimming – Swimming drills support – Manual Lap button for pool intervals • Training and Metrics – New HRR (Heart Rate Recovery) metric in training analysis – Heart rate and power broadcast – Ascent goal during activities • Sport mode experience – Option to enable touch screen during activity – Option to disable autolap notifications (for intervals created directly on the watch) – New icon for the data field “% incline last 100 m” – New data field distance to next turn • Daily Smart Experience – Specific alarms by day – Independent notifications and sound settings (daily use vs activity) – Sunrise time added to Morning Report – “Go Around” numbers when selecting values – Improvements in navigation menus COMMENT – TURN GENERATION IN GPX ROUTES Many GPX files only contain the track geometry and do not include reliable turn instructions. Some platforms generate turns automatically based on the curvature angle of the track. For example, if a curve exceeds a certain threshold (such as 30°), a turn alert is created. While this approach may appear convenient, it also introduces important limitations and potential risks. Natural terrain curves can easily exceed this threshold, which may lead to false turns, missing relevant turns, or incorrect navigation alerts. For this reason, Suunto does not automatically generate turns from GPX curvature alone. Accurate turn-by-turn guidance requires either: • Routes created or edited directly in Suunto App, where the platform has full and updated map information • Devices capable of generating turns using their own onboard cartography Currently only one manufacturer uses full onboard cartography to generate turns directly on the device. Most platforms, including Suunto, use track overlays on maps rather than full map-based routing engines. If you have used GPX files with automatically generated turns on other devices, you may already have noticed situations where false turn alerts appear simply because the track curvature exceeds a certain angle threshold. Until a more reliable solution is available, Suunto prioritizes accuracy over automatic generation, ensuring that turn instructions are only created when they can be trusted. I think this can really help you with your navigation!

The glitch is slightly more extended. I have to repeating alarms. One for mo, tu, we, th on 6:30 and one on fr on 7:00 (thank you Suunto developers for more fine grained alarm settings!!) This morning (tuesday), while I was dismissing morning report, I noticed morning report showed the alarm for 7:00. Have to say, I rather have Suunto working on an option to disable morning report all together than fix this bug. There is no info on morning report that I need to know first thing in the morning and now it is annoying to dismiss this useless screen every day.