@Brad_Olwin said in Is there still demand for a modern MIP endurance watch?: I agree with @maszop but not with a MIP screen because I agree 100% with @sky-runner . What I would love and probably a very small group of people. Make a Suunto Vertical Pro with an AMOLED screen and no OHR. I don’t want OHR and don’t need it. Make the watch a bit smaller (only height so 12mm or so) keep the battery size of the Vertical 2 or bigger. Without the OHR module and the battery drain from the OHR I imagine a watch that is not as bulky but that matches the Vertical 1 Solar for battery life. Make the VP watch as light as possible and we have a true outdoor/mountain expedition/ultrarunners watch. I asked for this awhile ago and I think the cost would far outstrip the user base. I have basically done this with my V2. Turned off OHR and the thing lasts FOREVER. I charged last week some time, have three hours of training and downloaded the new map for my state off charger and am still at 85%.

@Gunnar Thanks - that’s where I was expecting to see it but an app update has just landed and now it’s there.

@Efejota said in Offline Maps and Routing in Suunto App: Offline apparently requires that the watch has been paired (previously?) I just tried this since I was wondering the same thing (I have two phones that I switch between, one running old SA software and one with the new offline map option). So it will work, but the key is to remove the pairing from the watch only (Settings > Connectivity > Paired devices > MobileApp > Forget). This will keep the watch associated with the device you are moving away from and thus keep the offline maps as available option. However, if you remove the watch from the app by using the “Manage connection” option, offline maps disappear. I assume this will work for a tablet running SA as well.

I ordered the white as well, should be here next week!

@Brad_Olwin @aiv4r I completely agree with you.

@brave_dave No, fortunately I don’t experience continuous disconnection issues. It only happens in water due to the physical limitations of Bluetooth transmission. When the arm comes out of the water, the connection is restored automatically without any problems. At least with the Vertical 2. Which device are you using?

@Nikolai-Simonov installed (90). Does not do anything when trying to connect. Just small haptic events on the phone (1Hz). No connection to watch possible. Does not even show “searching” or similar at all. [image: 1775935366782-img_4523.png]

I don’t know what the battery is. I’ll check. But I was thinking of trying to replace the battery. This morning, during training, the watch lost connection with the heart rate monitor again. So the problem still exists. This takes approximately 30 to 45 seconds and then the connection is re-established.

@egika Yesterday I tried Race 2 with the new software and the behavior is the same regarding distances and paces as previous software: [image: 1775805385326-qnhvtpfrnu.png] Left: raw GPS distance showed (10.17km). Right: postprocessed final distance showed (10.01km). First one is the GPS data recorded distance (similar to the recorded by other devices and the “corrected distance” by Strava for example. Second one is the “filtered” distance saved in FIT file data and showed by the watch ((tipically the other watches would show 10.16km with the 10.17km raw distance). First one is always similar in all the devices. Second one only differs (shortened, 1%-1.5%) in Race 2. In every activity, both running, walking or riding the bike. So it seems Race 2 performs a different data processing than his other “brothers”.

@off242 said in Suunto and Concept 2 indoor rowing: Hello, @Martin-Lillepuu . Curious if ErgSync has been tested with non C2 rowers, such as WaterRower with the Bluetooth option installed on its computer. As I’ve (sort of) resolved the issue surrounding Varia radar units with the Race2, ErgSync + WaterRower is next on my list—but if anyone has any input before I head into things, I’m interested in your experience(s). I believe you’re referring to the “commodule” that attaches onto the WaterRower S4 monitor. https://www.waterrower.com/wr_us/waterrower-com-module.html The other upgrade option for WaterRower is to get SmartRow, which is a replacement pulley that also sends metrics by bluetooth. https://www.waterrower.com/wr_us/smartrow.html http://www.smartrow.fit/ The S4 / commodule gets metrics by measuring paddle rotations. Compared to the Concept2, this is quite a bit more “optimistic” in its pace. For example, a 2:00/500m pace might be something like 1:48/500m with the S4. SmartRow is a power meter that measures the force you put on the drive, and uses the same power-to-pace conversion as the Concept2. Neither method transmits exactly like the Concept2 though. In theory, this should all be covered by “bluetooth FTMS (FiTness Machine Service)” protocol, but in practice, apps like EXR needs to do different things to accommodate each method. I use SmartRow and have not yet attempted to try to connect it to Suunto, as my current flow is to simply get the TSS load estimate from intervals.icu then edit my Suunto session report to change the TSS there to manual and replace it’s (lower) TSS with the result from intervals. I can try that in the near future, but that won’t be useful if you’re a ComModule person. Edit: Today 11 April 2026, I attempted to connect SmartRow to Suunto and it failed to be found. Again, I wasn’t expecting this to work as the developer has only specified Concept2 at this time.

Hi everyone. So, I did a test with two different types of external heart rate monitors: the usual Smart Band Heart Belt and a supposedly inferior brand called “Coospo.” It was disappointing. I even recorded an activity that didn’t require GPS (dancing) for the test… Using the Suunto strap, after a few moments… [image: 1775837202183-20260410_172654.jpg] [image: 1775837202242-20260410_172551.jpg] Now with an external one, Coospo brand… [image: 1775837258431-20260410_174315.jpg] In my case, it’s clear: my original headband, after being serviced and replaced (theoretically) with a new one, has stopped working again after 7 months. I’ve tried hardly washing it… only by hand. I’ll send it to the repair shop tomorrow, as it still has a year of warranty left. After that, I’ll sell it in case anyone wants to continue the crusade . I’m going back to the Polar H10…

@snow said in New firmware 2.53.42: You need to start the activity Ah! Yes… That works. This was incredibly convoluted… Thanks. Hope my bumbling around will help other users. Edit: Everybody is talking about the Menu only accessible from the Map screen itself (the 3 lines/hamburger icon). Edit 2: And it works even without any Route loaded. Great!

@Squirrel The update hasn’t improved the problem with wakefulness detection in sleep tracking either… I’m recording about 30-60 minutes more sleep time each day than I actually slept… it’s such a shame, it skews the resource and recovery statistics… why does Suunto always smooth out wakefulness with light sleep? Has anyone heard if they’ve fixed this problem?

I’ve been using a Polar H10 and Morpheus M7 with both my Race 2 and Vertical 1 for road and trail running and CrossFit and have had none of the issues mentioned here

@Horizontal_2 said in Batterie drain since the new Update: I’ve found something else! I did experience the drain as well. in 3 hours a drain of 3%. The Wireless Network and Discovery were on. That’s a battery killer as well Yep, turning these off definitely helps

I have the same. Both for repeating alarms ad for one time alarms. If you reboot the watch, the time is shown on the watch face, but after you scroll through widgets or so ething else it’s gone again. I reported it to Suunto. Have to say, I have less of a need to show it on my watchface. Before this update I had an alarm for workdays, but had to disable that on Thursday eve and remember to enable it again before Sunday eve. Now I can just set an alarm for Monday till Thursday.