Suunto needs to make their mind about what they want to achieve with Suunto Run. Suunto Run without any way to send workouts from outside platforms (or even the AI plans…) is a completely half baked product. We have SuuntoPlus Guides created directly on the Suunto App but then nothing else works. Suunto really needs to focus on training planning and less on hardware: We can’t plan a simple workout in the app calendar or add a race/event. No web platform for training analysis and workout planning. I don’t need new features or new watch versions. Suunto Run, Race S, or Race 2 are perfectly fine. But they don’t to have a clear direction. Suunto Run has somes features that other Suunto watches don’t have, like resume later, but lacks others.

ah here https://www.suunto.com/en-gr/sports/News-Articles-container-page/suunto-core-2-vs-core-1-whats-new-and-why-it-matters/

@Egika Also yes to all. Still just giving location as ‘Scotland’ I’m actually not that far from Fort William mentioned earlier. I’ve just compared it with local tide tables and it’s about 40 minutes and 0.3m wrong on the low tide forecast for Mallaig which is just up the coast. Not big errors but potentially critical for threading a sea kayak through various local channels. For example - close to me there is an island (Eilean Ighe for those who know the area) separated from the mainland by a narrow channel. I know I can paddle through this when the height of the tide at Mallaig is 3.5m. If I get this wrong then it’s normally straightforward to go round the outside of the island. But if the weather is severe (or unexpectedly deteriorates) timing for the channel to avoid the conditions is important. Now of course I can use other resources to plan this but it’s a shame if the watch can’t give me that information. An example would be a leisurely long day, no weather or tidal stream issues, arriving nearby at an unplanned time and just deciding the best route back by making a quick check to see if the channel is open or not.

@MartinPadiPro I have two buddies who also have a Nautic. This issue was seen by both, but they don’t bother to submit to Suunto. So it is definitively not a standalone problem…

@Squirrel don’t know. This is iOS beta 3.13

@ccrhenrik True, thats a negative aspect. And if Buhlmann with 40/85 is similar in stops it also should reduce bubble formation like RGBM. Good to have the choice

@isazi it’s definitely after going into “deep sleep”

@Ze-Stuart yes I have used elite HRV for some time and then stopped. Unfortunately currently that’s how my nights looks like and the watch does not recognize those as sleeps. Hence why enabling HRV during long naps could be beneficial. – ms Avg. sleep HRV 4 h 57 min 23:24 - 01:18 Nap 1 h 54 min 03:13 - 04:40 Nap 1 h 27 min 05:36 - 06:34 Nap 58 min 07:44 - 08:22 Nap 38 min

@sartoric I’ve been using it for a very long time. The problem is that the application doesn’t support it. For example, it works very well on https://routeplanner.suunto.com. Clickable “plus” and “minus” icons should be added to a section of the application.

I tried all that. Disable: WiFi & Discover. Always-on Display: Off … I even try try Airplane mode and still is drain battery

@boxwex Also you need to wait 10 minutes to start seeing it working as suggested by snow

allrighty then… back in business #fingerscrossed Trying to factory-reset the watch while battery left, did not work. It always crashed and restarted before I got the chance to cycle through the menu to that option, also button-press did not work. Let it drain power. charger (USB-C) was connected to a docking-station, placed watch onto charger… charging icon appeared, followed with the bootup of the watch… did not follow it all the way through, but ‘green firmware restore’ screen were shown when battery was sufficient (3% ?)… let it lie for a bit and started with black screen… as already noted in earlier post, the watchface is non-existent, black screen… pressing the crown (middle button), my ‘Sun-up / Sun-down’ secondary screen is shown… pressing ‘back / lower button’ returns to the non-existing watchface screen… turning the crown to ControlPanel > Settings > General > Reset settings , it stated it needed 40% battery before doing so… Not sure how come, but leaving it on the charger kept the menu’s scrollable, and the watch did not crash ! Waited till 40% battery and did ‘Reset settings’ … Watch displayed that it would turn off, and crown-button press needed to be used to boot-up again… it did not… After these messages, it reboot and started restoring the firmware screen once again… uhoh… but… it was one continuous cycle where the green progressbar slowely filled and when 100% full, the watch booted and all initial questions on eg. age, length, metrics were presented… Opened Suunto App and reconnected the watch… after removing the old device on my iphone, otherwise it will not pair ! (bluetooth menu, ‘Forget this device’) So now I have a fresh device that is working as expected (for all I can discover for now)… Only nuisance… need to recreate all my custom workouts Will take it for a 'move ’ this evening and see if it holds up. Cheers @dimitrios-kanellopoulos , if anything is unclear, feel free to follow-up.

@gkaempfer For me the same issue. Wahoo Bolt 2.

@SamppaP none as well. But i care more more about the guides tbh.

@Gilles-van-der-Have said: @Egika thank you, I am aware, as with many forums i anticipate on Suunto monitoring theirs to further improve their products and services. Every time I report a bug and tell suunto support more people on their forum complain about it, they always ask if I can provide links to those topics. It could be that Suunto support tries to annoy people by asking a lot of info or it could br they haven’t got a clue what’s going on on their forum.

@Wilson75 so this is on purpose, the Nexus watch face does not work with the firmware version Vertical 1 is using.

Tiny fonts again - poor.

@Nico78 There’s no “classic” bluetooth. Suuunto watches (and most wearable devices) use low power edition of bluetooth (btle) on all suunto i believe it could be 5.x edition minor number doesn’t make sense. it works on the same band 2.4 GHz. but significantly lower transmition power ±0.1 W as far i remember depends on exact antena and case.

@2b2bff It’s the one thing I would really like to change