@Sascha-Domres makes sense, I get your point but it is more like I would buy Coros Apex 4 or similar and go to their community and start complaining that they do not support “tags” on activities and I am so dissapointed in all they do

@dreamer_ said: Btw, It seems I can count 3 mayor betas in 2026 (splitted in 15 minor announced versions only this year). It is not the same release calendar/features as for the supported watches, but the bug fixes are there (even for Garmin). It is also more than nothing. Yeah, on paper it sounds good, but essentially each version had some serious issues for some people. Always the question of “Should I really upgrade beyond version …?” in the forums. I understand Suunto is focused in the new watches but it’s also a lot of time a watch like the Vertical is forgotten with the remaining bugs. And, when bugs, this can be a very bad image of the brand for the users that have the watch. Reminds me on Nokia and its N9, where they pushed a final update eliminating most of the bugs (over 1000 IIRC) before pulling the (support) plug. I also feel that is the right thing to do.

@André-Faria It is hard to claim warranty for this. The watch restarts randomly. My seller says: the fault did not appear.

@scotta yes please send it to me.

@Thorlap71 it is not up to me to say, I have a Race 2 but with another firmware and it never crashed on me, and I have not seen these random reboots in daily mode reported anywhere. In your case I would ask for a replacement watch and see if the behavior is different. I will forward all this info to Suunto anyway.

@isazi sent

Since Suunto still shows no meaningful response and reports of Nautic issues keep piling up, I have now reported the Nautic through the European product safety system as a potentially dangerous product. Given the false mandatory gas-time alarms and other incorrect dive data, I think an independent safety review is overdue. I’ll keep you updated. [image: 1786372833520-screenshot-2026-08-10-164007.png]

Looks great in my Suunto 9 peak pro [image: 1786262740019-1000295463.jpg]

@tm3610 said: Any idea if there are rumors of a new Run or smaller, budget variant? IMHO a Run 2 and a Race S successor is to come in the next months. The real question is when…

@mickywickyftw I don’t see how ZS adds anything that you don’t get with HR anyway. For me it is just too inaccurate. I wanted to know how ZS actually performs and analyzed 150 runs and rides that I all did as Suunto recommends for ZS. While the mean reported thresholds over all workouts come very close to my actual thresholds, the standard deviation is at 9 bpms for the aerobic and at 7 bpm for the anaerobic threshold. So therefore on normal runs or rides, I get fluctuations of up to ±9 and ±6 bpm respectively and I never know when it is accurate or not. I had workouts where ZS told me that I am pushing way too hard but my HR was as usual and I was able to do the workout/race exactly as planned. I also had it the other way around. If I would have listened to ZS, I would have had a lot of destroyed workouts or races. From years of racing and training, I know that my HR never differs more than ±2 bpm at the anaerobic threshold and ±4 at the aerobic threshold if I am not completely destroyed or sick. So therefore HR and pace in combination with RPE is way more reliable. At least for me.

@jj-frl the tracks for past activities are shown in the colour of the activity. E.g., green for walking, reddish/orange for biking, blue for sailing, etc.

@HonzaS same behavior I saw for my reboots. Immediately following or during a watch notified phone call

@shakra2005 Ja, das geht - jeder Bluetooth Herzfrequenz Sensor funktioniert, also auch z.b. die von Polar und Coros. Deren Oberarmsensoren sind sehr beliebt. Zu Zonesense gibt es eine lange Diskussion. Für mich funktioniert es nicht für andere schon. Deine anaerobe Schwelle kannst Du auch durch Tests abschätzen und dann die Herzfrequenz Zonen danach einstellen

@jobtoll The manufacturer claims that if you train with GPS for 5 hours a week and keep heart rate and sleep tracking enabled, the battery will last at least 5 days. However, I’m only getting 3 days, which is really disappointing.

@Zesty said: @elbee ok thanks. I sent the watch back a second time and hopefully they will exchange it. I appreciate the feedback everyone has shared. You know you can disable bloodoxygen measuring yourself?

@BokiRun In terms of heart rate, I have no complaints about the RUN. I compared it with a Polar H9 during a vigorous workout, and it was flawless.

@OutdoorMan Yes, but Resume later is requested here a long time and nothing did happen. At least now there is the possibility with Apps and volunteers like Joaqin. Better than nothing for sure

@isazi Yeah, let’s hope they implement it as soon as possible.

@Peter-Pan-0 I guess that the watch uses the accelerometer to calculate the approximate distance without GPS. If I am not mistaken, it is the way it can calculate distance/speed when running without GPS coverage (i.e., under a bridge). My guess is that the watch at some point stops using GPS to save battery in critical conditions (as with other functions) but keeps recording until battery is completely depleted and uses the accelerometer as an alternative. J

@SergioB Thanks! Just tried it on a test walk and it works perfectly. I didn’t realise you could change navigation while in an activity. It worked fine changing navigation from a route to the newly created POI. Thanks, Richard