@Egika Sure, I agree with you. For sure it is not a law, and should not be taken as given… But patterns of the past fuel expecations for the future… So then I wait for the next App Update. Normally after that, the watch update is also around the corner…

Wish we could read whole message (no need to see photo). I often need to read quick something and need to take my phone from pocket. Happens to me very often. For example on shopping ,you could also buy ".

You can’t have a reference HRV device: you can compare trends, but not the actual values, as everyone’s algo is different. Every wear site produces different data, too, even left/right wrists. The watch exports one HRV measurement for every ten minutes: I assume it only measures HRV at a maximum of on r every 10m during the sleep window, with motion during that window causing it to be rejected. In this case, I imagine that one or more of the HRV readings from the watch didn’t transfer to the app. Even one reading missing will cause a different variable to be calculated. How a value would be dropped, I don’t know, but this would be my leading theory.

@nmiguelrf I don’t remember well whats was the reason but this was in the watches (Spartan for sure and even early firmwares for the S9B, but I do not remember well) and had some downsizes too, so they switch to determine the zones using the phone. I think that if you search in the forum you can find some threads about this. So, you have to sync your phone to get the correct zone in your watch. BTW, for me it is ok how it works now.

I like posts like this. Vertical maybe have no more updates but its very improved since launch. I got it soon it launched (Solar Ti) Than switched to Race 1 like year ago and it was like completly new device. Dont need such a powerful battery and early morning/evening run was better to read with amoled. Switched to Race 2 when came out. Still remember great design and feeling of Vertical 1, and Race 1. V1 is a great hiking/mountaineering watch. I would say I dont understand why Vertical 2 is almost Race 2 but amoled/few% better battery and buttons instead of crown. But than I also understand we cant be mad on Suunto. Its company, and people demand amoled. Yes, there’s still people prefer stronger battery/mip, but its not worth effort for company. Brutal but true. Its not charity. If my main sport/activity would be hiking, I would definitely stay with Vertical 1.

@YoeChr the post-processing issue is visible on all platforms that import activity data from Suunto, as this is the total distance data that is sent. In Strava, this can be corrected using the “Correct distance” option for the activity, but this is a web-only option and requires manual execution.

@elbee slower development and fewer bugs is always preferred. or let’s say: slower development and in general more complete and matured firmware, software, features… (…still don’t understand how my windows laptop takes ages to connect to the one single connected headphones while my mac just connects when I take them off the charger )

@Egika It would be nice if the removal from the app also came with this notification, because I thought it was gone, gone.

@stereodreieck86 Hi there! I try to answer you by points: 1- My implementation use only official LDI. Proprietary control need an android or IOS phone paired to the ebike to read the data. There is a security going on on the first pairing that need to be done and there is no reverse engineering available on that. Other uses data from the can bus but it need physical access to the bus. 2- No for both at the current state 3- LDI is the easiest one to go with. Older protocol is all reverse engineered but has additional data and hardware requirements 4- I have only one gen4 and one gen5 personally tested and they work nicely 5- I can’t test but probably the only field not available is the light sensor (working on my Kiox400C). Probably not available if there isn’t a display (i suppose, not confirmed). As a bonus i can say that i’ve tested all the non documented data field on the LDI protocol and no data is transmitted. All that is documented is all that we have.

Had a crash during my run today, using a Race 2. It crashed at just after 2Km into the run. I had 3 S+ apps enabled (Cadence coach, ZoneSense and Running Economy) and was using a Polar H10 belt. Everything else were standard (no nav, battery on performance, feeling on, no music controls, etc). When I realise the watch had crashed and restarted, I’ve started a new activity to continue my run. However, this time I unselected the ZoneSense app, while keeping the other 2 S+ apps and the HR belt. The remaining 10.4Km went well, no problems. Hope this gets sorted soon by the team.