After few months with Race 2 and previouse owning of Suunto 5 and Ambit 2 here is my opinion. Amoled has great colors and great refresh rate. But thats it. Benefits of MIP for me: It always show time, no need for specific rise to wake move. Even slight move of hand wakes watch and i can see full watchface. This was great in day to day use when working etc. In night with low backlight is not so agresive agains eyes compared to bright amoled even on low brightnes. In sport modes always visible even on bike handle no fallback to limited AOD. In daylight great visibility without higher consumption of battery as MIP doesn’t need any backlight during daytime. I buy watch once in a while so since i bought Race 2 lately. I am not interested in any new model MIP or Amoled in next 5 years. But than if available i would prefer MIP version over Amoled but only if all other spec of MIP watch was same.

@brave_dave No, fortunately I don’t experience continuous disconnection issues. It only happens in water due to the physical limitations of Bluetooth transmission. When the arm comes out of the water, the connection is restored automatically without any problems. At least with the Vertical 2. Which device are you using?

@Squirrel The update hasn’t improved the problem with wakefulness detection in sleep tracking either… I’m recording about 30-60 minutes more sleep time each day than I actually slept… it’s such a shame, it skews the resource and recovery statistics… why does Suunto always smooth out wakefulness with light sleep? Has anyone heard if they’ve fixed this problem?

@ADidier I totally see your point. However, I think sleep tracking is hard. It took Apple forever to roll this out and they have a huge user base. Clearly I think Apple leads the pack here. Suunto has a touch choice, either do what the market demands or lose sales. I would rather a company, any company get it right maybe with less features so no deep, REM and light but absolutely accurate sleep times. I agree with you, I would use that if I knew it was always correct.

@Manuel-Extreme off wrist detection is not contact based, but somehow optical. From here on I have no more ideas, sorry.

@Egika adding my N of one, I also find it measures consistently different from every other watched I’ve used (a few from COROS, Garmin, and other Suunto watches, the Vertical 2, Race S, and Race). More telling, though, is those other watches all measure very close to my measuring wheel. The Race 2 measures shorter than my wheel, so in my experience, the Race 2 does indeed measure short. Thanks for your help on this!

@isazi the sdk is so easy to work with that I wouldn’t be surprised that this is the case. I’m so happy with the watch itself and the general software experience so this is essentially the last puzzle that allows getting rid of other platforms and consolidating everything sports/longevity related around my suunto

@Brad_Olwin No, that is not the normal behavior or how it was pre-update (says the guy with the SV1 and 9PP). It should show the next alarm regardless of whether it will occur on the following day. This happened once before after an update (2.35.34 Q2). The issue at the time had to do with repeating alarms only. If I recall, it was quickly fixed with either a hotfix or the next update.

Hello everyone, same problem here (again) because a while ago Suunto’s technical service replaced my Suunto belt due to the same connection problems, after approximately 6 months of use of the Suunto band. Tomorrow I will completely disconnect the band, install a new battery (after resetting the Suunto band) and then test it again with activity. I’ve also considered that it might be possible using “Sports Mode Customization” after the last update a few days ago…it’s a shame and quite strange because. Today I even started experiencing watch restarts when I unpaired the power meter from the bike, as I was ruling out sensors. After a 55-minute activity, it started disconnecting again approximately every 2 minutes. I’ve attached images showing the clock reset and error message, in case it provides any useful information. [image: 1775762054897-20260409_180436.jpg] [image: 1775762054929-20260409_180435.jpg] [image: 1775762054949-20260409_180300.jpg]

@Nelson-Diogo I ran 17 km this morning. And there was no loss of connection between the watch and the heart rate strap. But we’ll see what happens tomorrow. But the same thing happened before. Sometimes I finish training and the watch does not lose connection with the heart rate belt.

@masta which OS?

Thank you very much for answers! Didn’t know that. I’ll prepare more blocks for solve problem of repetitions.

I still dont get how this is possible. Maybe I am wrong, but I thought that the device, watch (not only Suunto) works as the recorder of data, and those are moved to app for further processing. The more sofisticated calculation happens in the app, and basic ones on the device and/or app using the same algorithm. Why other brands do not experience these issues?

@radum I experience the same with walking. HR is around 90 BPM on straight road, then I start climb uphill and even I feel that the HR goes up, the watch still shows values around 90 BPM. Usually it is enough to stop for a while until watch recognizes increased HR and after that it seems as the OHR works ok. It may be some kind of cadence lock but even I tried to tighten the strap, move watch on the hand, it behaves the same. Mostly just the pause for a while helps the watch to recognize increased HR.

@Egika I had a similar problem when updating maps. The map upload continued at the office, then I went home and it was postponed until tomorrow. Even though the watch was connected to Wi-Fi at home, the upload didn’t progress at all. So I deleted the Wi-Fi network the watch was connected to and re-paired it. It then continued the upload from where it left off. Just a suggestion.

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@2b2bff Or just Caps lock enabled 🧐 i HAVE TRIED

@prakalejas a firmware update should come before summer as far as I know