@Speed-Man thanks for the details! I’m getting reports that Constantin is either shutting down itself or other s+ apps if used alongside, like zonesense + constantin + aerobic decoupling. I’ve made some redesign efforts to make the app lighter and I no longer see anything related to watch being overloaded, but I only have access to S9PP and Race S. It’s kind of hard to debug the issues if one doesn’t have access to hardware

@James-Alexander think that can be accomplished very easily with the headsets (that in any case you already need). I mean, Suunto does not push many updates. Eveything is nice to have (of course), but there are some critical things that really affect to the performance of the watch in several scenarios.

@sindavide yes me too!!!

@Thlcd great comparison. I also have noticed that the last update, although full of bugs and battery eating, greatly improved the wrist HR on the Race S. Previously I only used the HR chest strap, but after reading comments here I gave it a chance for walking and body building – for biking the watch is on the handlebar, so I need the strap. Well, after a few tries, I have to say that finally it seems that it works well!

@Albert-Willem-Knop EPOC is available as a data field for custom mode.

@2b2bff said in Min. Sleep HR too high?: @raven I know it shows the same issue, therefore I picked it… Those Min HR fields are actually buttons that show a line in the graph for the selected data. So, you can see whether the graph is below or above that line. Haha didn’t mean to imply you didn’t know you had the issue; it was just more musing to myself that I’m clearly not alone in this. I did seem to have missed that selecting it as a button turns on a line which is useful and clearly shows a few points in my graphs where the graph is going under the line. Thanks. I guess at this point my questions are more “does it work the way I’d expect it to for anyone or is what we’re seeing a universal truth in Suunto app/devices,” as well as “is there a good reason for this behavior I’m missing.” Have a good weekend!

@Beardkowski said in Suunto only a brand for runners?: Suunto only advertises with and for runners. What about mountain bikers and road cyclists? A bit more advertising for cycling would be nice, too. Or is Suunto solely a brand for runners? Many cyclists use a bike computer like a Wahoo ELMENT or Garmin Edge and Suunto doesn’t make any of those, but do have a partnership with Hammerhead Karoo. https://us.suunto.com/blogs/blog/how-to-use-karoo-2-bike-computer-with-suunto https://www.hammerhead.io/blogs/teamjournal/see-the-adventure-ahead-with-suunto While one can connect a cycling power meter to a Suunto watch and get the data that way, it’s likely not perceived as quite as good as a bike computer option.

@elbee tnx for your help. Indeed that was the issue, tested it this morning. In the trainingsoptions menu there is als the option to switch off the wrist measurement.

I received an update on the matter after contacting Suuntos support team. After shipping off all my logs and specifications, I received this: *As per the reply from our technical team, we recommend restarting the watch before exercising and trying to use fewer Suunto Plus apps during activities. Please note that this issue has already been identified and is expected to be addressed in the next software update.*

Got my Suunto Run today. Firmware updated. Same Problem here (with iPhone). I get the notifications, but i cannot see from whom they are sent. There are no options to set. Watch already restartet, but this problem is still here.

@sai-mon https://forum.suunto.com/topic/15153/crash-reports-collection-q1-2026

@vinterben yeah you should give it at least two weeks 24/7 for resources to get better. Recovery includes even more metrics and is more of a long term metric. And you can have high resources and low recovery and the other way around.

@jmlee I’m sorry it didn’t work. I’ll ask a friend if he’ll let me try it with his 9PP and let you know.