@FredJ the problem with Suunto hrTSS is that it evaluates time in zones not the actual HR rate. And unfortunately in Suunto zone 1 begins at zero. Even making your resting heart rate higher won’t change this. I made a test recording my HR just sitting at the table and got similar result as when I jogged lightly in zone 1 for the same amount of time. Solution would be to have lower limit on zone 1 like Garmin has. Until then, I use rTSS (pace) for my walks, which is roughly 33% of hrTSS, and 66% hrTSS for my hikes, provided the terrain is hilly. The more flat is the terrain, the more I lean towards the walking percentage

@herlas Scaling the entire line is odd… Using the watch over clothing (in this case, wrist-lift activation doesn’t work) – it’s not warm everywhere year-round. The ZoneSense screen has a small font for the percentage of time spent in zones; there should be an option to configure the screen to show either percentages or time. Configuring screens for interval training. The minimum screen timeout is 10 seconds, while 4-5 seconds is sufficient…

@LUIS-RAZORMAX do you have any S+ apps activated? How about Autolap setting in the exercise options?

@Fabii85 I still experience it. It’s only the recovery that is affected. At some point they align more at some it is more obvious with the watch being more ‘strict’. So I follow the watch suggestion and it aligns with how I feel.

@sky-runner no worries we keep it also for others to see. Yeah I had the same with one of my watches.

On/off toggle for nap detection

@Manuel-Extreme I have the same issue since upgrading to 2.50.26. The HR sensor stopped working correctly while running. I have fairly long and dark hair on my wrists and they seem to be causing the issue. Once I have shaved those under the sensor off, the watch started to show correct HR values.

Suunto support told me to step back to an older version for vertical2, I tried it but that didn’t work reliable So I got back to the newest version that still doesn’t work Rather frustrating the support says sorry and that they will do something in the future I will send the watch back , after 2 month of usage

@Egika Alright but a multi sport sport watch designed expecially for the use in the mountains -called “vertical”- shold be programmed to properly read HR while doing sport activities like walking with poles… I dont think other users find this wrond data suitable for them… Im not asking for it to elaborate crazy datas, simply asking for HR while walking in the cold. Anyways, thanks a million

@Dieter1960 said in Subject: Feedback on Zone Sense accuracy: Short intervals and Zone 2 threshold shifts: Analyzed the data through a specialized AI model to identify physiological breakpoints I’d be curious to know which model you used. If you ask an LLM to interpret your R-R data it generally uses the same (or similar) model that DFA-alpha1 is based on, but you can then tweak the prompt to ask it to compute the data using an “adaptive” model that should be more similar to what Suunto uses. At least this is something I tried long time ago, and eventually the computation was too heavy for the model to produce a result. AI models have evolved enormously since then. Nevertheless, I no longer look at ZoneSense data during my runs, simply because it just seems to “adapt” to my intensity. If I run at my typical aerobic effort, the shift between green and yellow is very likely where I expect it to occur, but if I run something more demanding (trail, tempo, race, etc.) it puts me in the aerobic zone when I actually have ±10 bpm above my aerobic runs.

@Horizontal_2 I just finished a two week cycle including upgrade mid cycle to the latest hotfix. I managed to get 14 days with 26.5 hours of GPS (running and cycling) on my Vertical 2. I’m very happy with that. I used some navigation in runs and almost never used the flashlight. Only OHR without external strap.

@JebClydeNC said in Suunto Routeplanner: Overall, excellent work—I do GIS for my “day job,” and the map styling has to be some of the best I’ve ever seen, on ALL baselayers! Only bugs I’ve found are units settings and login not being stored when returning later (might be a cookie issue on my end though), and when changing the units to imperial, the route library (when logged in) still shows overall route distances in km. For a future tweak, It would be awesome to have elevation and sunrise/sunset time pop up as a label when clicking (or tapping) a position like in the Suunto App. And perhaps, for manual point-to-point routes, labels on the lines with bearing and distance? Just thoughts from my overly map-heavy brain though. Seriously, excellent work on this project! Thanks. The login is stored but clearing cache will remove it. Some browsers may by default clear cache between sessions. Regarding the imperial problem, I am not able to reproduce it. Make sure you reload the page in case you have had it open for long and try to find a way to reproduce it. Nice feature ideas, need to think about them. Difficult to support these on both touch and desktop use though.