@maszop so can a shortcut be added to the right side of the watch’s home screen? (we can add widgets to the left side)

When using the live app I also sometimes loose belt and other sensor connections. I reported this to the team fyi and sent logs.

@BrunoH thanks for your replay and I guess you are right. I’ll just have to wait for the successor of the vertical come. Thanks.

@sky-runner Is think a short uphill shouldn’t be a climb but a uphill section. So the second climb might be steeper but it is short. Only my opinion of course. Funny last year I cycled 2500km across Europe with a couple of friends. We had Suunto, Garmin and Wahoos in the group. I found the Suunto easily the best as it didn’t keep saying every uphill section was a climb, but possibly for less experienced riders it might be a bit harsh. If Suunto said it was a climb you remember it! Wahoo seemed to have everything as a climb! Garmin in the middle. Checking in the morning before leaving for the day the Sunnto might show 3 climbs, Garmin 10 and Wahoo 30! But for me the Suunto was the most useful. I did think for a lot of people the way Garmin and Wahoo report climbs would be more appreciated but I only wanted to know if it would be a proper sustained uphill section. The Wahoo is pretty good at making one long climb with a flat/downhill section one climb. The Suunto is inclined to split the climb. I can’t remember how the Garmin got on.

@sky-runner said in Auto-detected lactate threshold is horribly wrong: So clearly at least something isn’t right No, it is an obvious bug somewhere, but not something I’ve encountered with my Race S and the Android version of the Suunto app. Here is the latest aerobic number: [image: 1751778407701-1000008243.jpg] [image: 1751778439457-1000008245.jpg] And the whole week has been spot on, reflecting coming back after a small injury, with dropping aerobic conditioning and a few days of unbearable temperatures followed by rainy ones. Trying to do ‘easy’ trail runs of around one hour (except the last one which was a village run of 32 minutes): “Measured” “Aerobic threshold” 140 bpm 20.1C–20.9C ZS Green 67% Yellow 33% 146 bpm 26.4C–28.6C ZS Green 74% Yellow 26% 144 bpm 16.1C–16.0C ZS Green 81% Yellow 19% 141 bpm 14.9C–14.7C ZS Green 86% Yellow 14% By the way, at least with the Race S there is no need to activate the S+ ZoneSense app in the watch. Everything is native as long as a HR strap is in use. The app only gives a nice graphical view of the effort level.

@benille You’d have to find the older firmware version. You could try to ask for a link and instructions in https://forum.suunto.com/topic/6836/firmware-collection

@ShinJCD said in Firmware 3.19.16: since 5 seconds are already more than enough Yep!