@aiv4r said in Is there still demand for a modern MIP endurance watch?: @Brad_Olwin yes I am aware and I started to use it also, but I ment in the app after the run is uploaded. Agreed, for me I use S+ TrainingPeaks Run and you will have NGP in the app after the run, this will allow NGP to show in the lap table.

@safari Uh, but do they actually monitor: Running Dynamics: step cadence, total steps, and vertical oscillation. Running Symmetry: balance between your left and right feet by comparing ground contact time. Activity Stats: records ascent and descent (elevation changes), estimated calories, and the total duration of the workout. Cervical Mobility Assessment: perform a test where you move your head (up/down and side-to-side) to measure the symmetry of movement between your left and right sides ? There’s no mention here

@snow said in New firmware 2.53.42: You need to start the activity Ah! Yes… That works. This was incredibly convoluted… Thanks. Hope my bumbling around will help other users. Edit: Everybody is talking about the Menu only accessible from the Map screen itself (the 3 lines/hamburger icon). Edit 2: And it works even without any Route loaded. Great!

@jjpaz thank you! I added your information

I’ve been using a Polar H10 and Morpheus M7 with both my Race 2 and Vertical 1 for road and trail running and CrossFit and have had none of the issues mentioned here

@raven i wonder how people were doing sports before smart/sport watches when they did not know how much resources they had But I partly agree with you that we should not have features that does not work, but we are not there withh all this smart watches boom, since some things are just “good enough”, Garmin is a clear example of that with million scores that had inaccurate and even sometimes unscientific data behind it, but it is accepted by the community. Sleep analysis are not accurate on all devices, but everybody uses it. Yes it could be better at detecting wake up times and total sleep time, but it is hard to make an algorithm that is as good for all users. Resources and Recovery might be made up using sleep data but it depends to what degree. But I cannot comment on those since I do not look at it and have it removed from all my widgets.

The issue with lost bluetooth connection to Suunto Chest Strap is still present

@Sportsfreund said in Suunto and Concept 2 indoor rowing: Good work, guy. But really, there’s no need for a connection like this. The PM5 needs to be connected to a smartphone to plan and upload races. What we need is a connection from C2 to Suunto to actually use the load values ​​in CTL/ATL, etc. A connection from the C2 logbook to import into Suunto seems not within the scope of what is possible with a SuuntoPlus app, but rather, that ability would need to come from a collaboration of Concept2/Suunto themselves. If Suunto wishes to do that, then perhaps they can also talk to SmartRow so sessions from the SR logbook could also auto-upload to Suunto? http://www.smartrow.fit/ This setup would be for people not currently using the PM5 bluetooth connection to send data elsewhere like ErgData or EXR, etc. People on alternate rowers like the RP3 or the SmartRow system I use may one day benefit from the work here if it extends beyond the Concept2. I have two data connections from my power meter, so one can go to my SmartRow app and another could go to a connection like this. Perhaps eventually C2 will update the PM5 to allow dual bluetooth signals as many cycling power meters have.

@freeheeler said in Recovery: watch and SA differ: @emkei me too… but I found a workaround: in movescount suunto promoted the phone as an extended watch display: that’s what I do. I use the watch mainly to track and record and look at the data in the app only. which data is correct? I don’t know. but it is where I see a long term trend. and I don’t want to worry Yes, this is probably the only way - but still awkward as Suunto is the only company I know having this issue. Unfortunately, this was not the only reason I left - there were differences between watch, iOS app and iPadOS in: steps TSS Recovery Resources HRV And sleep tracking was really off (especially if ready at bed, or working at a standing desk) The thread: Recovery watch & App

@Manuel-Extreme This is shocking to know as it might be a complete deal-breaker for everyone doing triathlons! Usually I connect my HRM before swimming to have it automatically reconnect afterwards for biking and running. But if it does not get any connection while swimming at all (happens quite often to me) it might not automatically reconnect afterwards and leave you without any HR data for the complete race!

@pavel.samokha pls check above. Thx

@isazi ops… sorry

@Egika I had a similar problem when updating maps. The map upload continued at the office, then I went home and it was postponed until tomorrow. Even though the watch was connected to Wi-Fi at home, the upload didn’t progress at all. So I deleted the Wi-Fi network the watch was connected to and re-paired it. It then continued the upload from where it left off. Just a suggestion.

Same here! I need to disconnect and reconnect the sensor in order to restore its functionality. I have only a single Suunto HR belt. Hardware Pixel 8a Android 16 Suunto Smart HR belt App version 6.7.12 Watch Race Software version v2.53.42, installed 7 April 2026 Previous versions 2.50.28 same error as in the current version 2.50.26 same error as in the current version 2.48.16 no dropouts Logs sent at 19.28 CEST Screenshot from yesterday: [image: 1775669705361-1000093912.png]

@brave_dave Absolutely agree with you about notifications.

@isazi Thanks for the update, I really do hope we get the features, as swimming is primarily my sport. And the watch is both diving and sport advertised. Also, the fact that Suunto recommended this knowing my use case does not seem to make sense at this point. I would really like to get involved to help the delays on the Ocean, as it is a solid product just lacks the support in comparison to the other outdoor watches.

@NorthStarFY26 personally I think, that Ocean is one of the best looking watches, Suunto has ever made If you buy it for the features it has today, you won’t be disappointed by the slow update cycle Ocean has. I can confirm, that it is actively developed. It is just always behind the update schedule of the other sport watches.

@JebClydeNC will report… other watch faces are buggy, too and I will put your report on that list