@Bogdan1921 Maybe better to buy it at amzn or something. Suuntos planned delivery date for me is the 22th of September

@sky-runner It’s weird, and just Suunto knows. Then it’s a little hard to believe that Vertical 1 is really having such problems with the newer SW and that it’s not just a pressure tactic to get people to buy new devices :)))))

@Pyranya said: I’m going to test the HR Belt with a different phone and a different app and then see what the results look like. greez The data look bad on Runalyze, it is most likely the strap. Depending on smoothing with whatever device you test it may be ok but not for the 9PP or any other Suunto watch. I have had this issue as well when my straps wear out. The SmartSensor straps last between 6 months to 1 year for me.

@Dušan-Ković Thats true, i remember that

@Squirrel I have no Ambit to test

Hello, I’m following the drain battery since many days and that are the data that I collected : [image: 1789045877906-2026-09-10-15_10_56-s-amp-op-mdd-2026-09.pptx-powerpoint.png] I’m a little bit short in data for GPS Perfoamance + HR because I’m injured so I don’t do activities of more than 50 minutes I don’t know if somebody has also data collection like that. (for information I have a Race Titanium)

@Łukasz-Szmigiel Would be happy for feedback. I’ve done some field testing myself, kinda works. There’s one more branch I’m working on with gauge-like display based on the current climb category and added current hr reading, but still needs some refinement.

@benjaminb I have not attempted a pinned workout but my created workouts will indeed sync. I do not have the Run v1 with me at the moment but I can check this. Did you have a date set in the workout? I would try creating without a pin to watch and set the date for today.

This is an old issue that’s been mentioned several times on the forum. Still present on Race S, don’t know about other watches, but it is super easy to test. Set custom pace zones, hold upper button for 12+ seconds to reboot the watch and now pace zones are reset to default 6’00, 5’30, 5’00, 4’30/km. First time appeared perhaps in Nov 2025 firmware update https://forum.suunto.com/post/179150 Seems like one of those things that will never get fixed.

@elbee I don’t fully agree that it’s only person related. I’ve used several watches with optical heart rate sensors, including the Pixel Watch 3 and 4, the Galaxy Watch Ultra, and the Garmin Fenix 7X Pro. All of them provide reliable heart rate readings on my wrist without any noticeable issues. With the Suunto Race S, and now with the Race, I still experience occasional cadence lock and workouts where heart rate is clearly underreported or not captured correctly. What’s confusing is that some activities are recorded perfectly, while others are not. Since other brands work well for me under the same conditions, I don’t think the issue can be explained purely by individual physiology. There seems to be something specific about Suunto’s optical HR implementation or algorithms that makes it more sensitive in certain situations. That’s what I struggle to understand. If optical heart rate measurement generally didn’t work for me, I would simply accept it and use an external sensor. But based on my experience with several other watches, optical HR clearly does work for me. That’s why I find these inconsistent results on the Race and Race S difficult to explain.

@Speed-Man It is not compatible.

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos For me App update and text are pushed to the Store again. The only thing still hanging is the images von the Banner and the Watch Preview. Anyway thnx for having taking car of that!

@RichardM I’m afraid I’m unable to test such settings as in S9PP that I have access to I can only change units between imperial and metric. There are no granular controls as you’ve specified. I’m not even sure how to access it via the S+ api the watch provides. The documentation states only imperial/metric for units. After setting my S9PP to imperial I can see wind speeds in mph and temperature in Fahrenheit.

@pavel.samokha Did you figure it out? I’m having the same problem with my new Race 2… My Suunto Race 1 used to run much more smoothly Edit: It seems to be “fused direction”, which uses compass when stationary and GPS while above ~ 2 km/h.

@sky-runner if you customise you screens, you can choose movement time and paused time or rest time, them you can directly see how long your aid station time is, without pausing the watch‍️

@ggrego said: cardiaque pour vous assurer d’obtenir les mesures les plus précises. Par défaut, la valeur FC repos est définie sur 60 bpm et la valeur FC max est définie en fonction de votre âge. Ces valeurs de FC peuvent être facilement modifiées dans les paramètres sous Général Hi everyone, I’m noticing that the Resource tracking on my Race 2 seems completely off and overly optimistic. Yesterday: I did a heavy 36-round HIIT circuit session. Despite the high physiological load, the app recorded 0 hours of stress and 20.5 hours of recovery. The resources dropped only slightly to around 75–80% during the workout and shot right back up to nearly 90% shortly after while sitting on the couch. Today: I woke up to 98% (Very High) resources with 10 hours of recovery and 0 hours of stress logged so far today. It feels like the HRV stress thresholds are set way too high/insensitive, treating almost the entire day as “Recovery” and ignoring EPOC/post-workout physical stress altogether. As a result, the widget is essentially stuck between 90–99% every day, making it unusable for actual recovery and training load management. Is anyone else experiencing this “Stuck on High” resource behavior, or is a fix planned for the upcoming firmware update?[image: 1789029016205-screenshot_2026-09-10-10-16-37-306_com.stt.android.suunto.jpg] [image: 1789029016242-screenshot_2026-09-10-10-17-48-080_com.stt.android.suunto.jpg] Update with graphical proof: Here is my 6-month resource history chart, which clearly shows when the issue started: March – July (Suunto Race S): Realistic and dynamic resource fluctuations. After hard workouts, resources dropped properly (sometimes below 20%) and recovered naturally. August – Present (Suunto Race 2): Exclusively after switching to the Race 2 in August, the algorithm got stuck at the top. Resources barely ever drop below 60–70%, no matter how hard the training was. This clearly confirms it’s not a user-specific HRV baseline anomaly, but a model-specific algorithm regression/bug introduced on the Race 2.[image: 1789030832525-screenshot_2026-09-10-10-56-06-459_com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox-edit.jpg]

I’ve had Vertical 2 for almost a year now. The resources app has seemed to show very high numbers for me and it almost nevers shows any stress. This is way different to what I experienced with my last watch Garmin Fenix 5x plus. It did not have the body battery, but stress levels did correlate with how I felt. Now last weekend I did a 100km 24h military march in Lappland. After the march the resources were down to 10% but after a not so good sleep the number was again 97%! I tracked the whole activity with it. It is the same in my normal life, no matter how much I exercise, and I do quite a lot, the next morning I usually have 99%. So it seems to not have any connection to real world atleast in my use. Well, I can look at it and he happy that I have so much resources always Hopefully this could he improved. I think for now this is the only reason I’m considering to to back to Garmin. Otherwise the watch is really good.

Hello @omunoz , any update on your work for this new climbing Suunto + app ? As both Coros and Garmin are really in advance on this subject, it is a pity that Suunto didn’t develop something themselves… Therefore I am looking forward to see what your developments can provide.