@Egika those running metrics are far superior in something like the head than in very moving one arm. It is explained in that video. That is also a reason with PODs exist in other brands or chest straps with POD features. And pod features could also be improved in a future firmware update. An analogy is running with an HR chest strap. It’s better than the wrist sensor and if you are running with the strap, is because you do want the metrics of the strap. It has no sense to have 2 activities in that scenario. Watch’s metrics should be avoided when running with the Spark paired (in my opinion the contrary is clearly a bug once you have both products in the same workout)

@maszop it’s still there in the last public version (6.8.13). Do you have another one?

@suzzlo said in Downloading map takes a very long time: @muurain said in Downloading map takes a very long time: Suunto’s cloud service that throttles the downloads but… you can download maps for the mobile phone that are much faster… so… if we think, same server is delivering them… this should not be the problem… Anyway, I can live with it You’re right! I didn’t even realize that, even though I did download mobile maps too And yeah this does seem like an understandable constraint of small smart devices. I too am happy to have the convenience of WiFi downloads, even if they are pretty slow compared to bigger devices. My old Garmin Fenix maps downloaded way faster, but it was via USB cable and a PC. But given the analysis here, the original post does now sound like a WiFi issue or a bug. Maybe try downloading maps on some other place or WiFi…? If the download speed is considerably less than 1GB / hour (or ~2Mbps), it should work faster and there are not many broadbands this slow.

@Stoke80 You’re welcome. Tomorrow, I’ll ride to cottage and back. 40+40km without pause. I’ll let you know, if I got same average power. I’m curious about that.

@jjpaz I have a large number of trail runs with Race2 and V2 and they are essentially identical. I can share data, several different firmware and from 45 min to 7h trail runs. I am in the US with mostly open skies. Part of the observations may depend on the environment as I believe all of you that see shorter distances with R2. However, maybe not a firmware bug but maybe design differences including antennas. I always see fewer satellites connected to R2 than V1 or V2. Could impact distance when GPS conditions are more challenging.

@freeheeler nope I mean climb guidance

@Nelson-Diogo ohhh, at least this makes sense also for Suunto … let’s see if they implement in there Race and improve in the Run

@Kevin Suunto’s heart rate strap is “smart” in the sense that it has build in memory, meaning that if the watch looses connection for example when swimming, data still gets recorded. Then when ending the activity, the data gets sent over to the watch.

Coming back to this thread, I now see the restriction “while the Walking activity is active.” First, I don’t think this is an important metric for “live” use. The reality is “step count” is a basic metric that is most useful when you don’t have access to other metrics. For example, a cheap pedometer you attach to your shoe can give you steps but likely won’t have GPS to measure actual distance. In almost all cases, your actual distance is more important than number of steps. However, there is a related metric, cadence that can be relevant. This is “steps per minute,” and in running the advice is to typically around 180 spm which is what I tend to go for, although some prefer slightly different values. Search “ideal running cadence” but here’s a starter link: https://us.suunto.com/blogs/blog/tracking-cadence-heart-rate-and-pace-while-running So I’d look to cadence for “how effective are my current steps” and distance instead of total steps.

@PhilBee said in new Vertical 2 - auto vs manual laps: yes i guess it must mean that coros record auto 1km laps since the previous auto or manual lap - but what’s wrong with that? to me that makes far more sense Nothing wrong. With that. With Suunto’s approach you can have an automatic lap on each km and an manual lap/interval whatever you wanna call it (in German they are called “Runden”) that are connected with some meaning. Especially if you follow a guide you might have something like 5 Minutes warmup 20 Minutes easy pace 1.6km as fast as you can 10km easy open end - run back home Each of these will become an individual “Runde”. This approach makes sense as well, doesn’t it?

@Deniska-Rediska Have you tried a reboot? If so, I would try a hard reset. If that does not work you may have a defective watch provided no tattoos or other issues. I assume you tried both watches on both arms to test. OHR for me with any watch from Garmin or Suunto has not been great until Race2 and V2. With this firmware they are near perfect matches to a belt as I tested wearing the watches, one with belt, one OHR and switching watches as well.

@sky-runner said in Race S: Extremely high battery use rate: I suspect this is a software issue so it is likely the same across all models. Indeed as software issue, but maybe connected with the changed HR sensor algorithm? In that case it is a solution solely for the Race S. But who knows… Interested about your results…

@Brainicus 4th degree not needed…I’m neither moderator or suunto related. Even some users here are close to suunto, it’s still supposed to be a help forum between users, not an official suunto support tool. If I had wanted things to be better I guess I would had created my own brand and done everything well since begining and better than garmin, coros, suunto and all the others, and promise a lifetime update support with clear vision of what tech and developpement will be in the futur… I personnaly use SV1, it’s a 3 years old watch, it has already been improved a lot, and I’m confident we will have updates, but also understand hardware can limit update in the (close?) futur. SV1 works like a charm, can for sure be better but is already a best seller on his kind. For ocean my understanding is that it’s a device that must at first be strong on “diving” features and that it can’t suffer about regression bugs on those features. So I guess improvements and testings can’t be nothing else than 100% sure.

@Hashly-Iian but isn’t this an easy to implement Upgrade which would be very heplful! All data and technical basis is already given. Maybe with the step from beta workout plans to the final version…hope so.

@rwmastel0 this should be fixed with an update

Should be fixed in next release, being currently tested.