@dreamer_ I’m built similarly to you so glad I stuck with the Race 2. Maybe you’ll change back after the update! I didn’t want to pay an additional £100 for a torch and bigger battery, neither of which I need. This would also come with more bulk and omission of the scroll wheel which I like for zooming the maps. I wonder whether this update will be included in the next quarterly one or a separate earlier fix…

@Mff73 always nice when someone else has done the work! Thanks, I didn’t know about that post, or Sonny’s work.

Scusate ma non capisco il voto negativo!!!

@Highlands said in Suunto Vertical 1 – A Few Questions About the Future + Questions About the Vertical 2 and a Comparison with the Coros Nomad / the New Vertix 2026: @dreamer_ I hope they put a sapphire crystal on R2S. About this, I think my wife’s 46mm Run could fit a 1.4 inches screen. Perhaps they could fit that screen aize in the Race 2 S playing with the bezels and making you think the watch is not that “S” but something comparable to a Fenix 8 47mm . That simple change would make a lot of noise for marketing in my opinion and very likely much better sales (just for that)

I’ve been able to release a few updates oriented around lowering the hardware load of the app and yet even today I’ve received a feedback that the app is rebooting the watch - and it’s always Vertical 2. Are there any known issues or something that’s not specified in the documentation in relation to Vertical 2? @dimitrios-kanellopoulos , @suuntopartnerteam ? Can I help somehow in debugging the issue by adding extra logging, etc.?

@2b2bff well well well … if you tell to someone who is doing a diet that he lost 5000 g and to his wife that she lost 5 kg … you are right … this is not the same … the wife will be super happy but the man wearing a suunto and for who 43 and 43.0 make a difference will start to question himself about the precision of instrument … how it could have been possible that he arrives preciselly to exact 5000 Joking !!!

@2b2bff said: @stromdiddily there is no universal “This is a workout file, deal with it watch” format. If you are pushing a workout to Garmin, you define the steps. If you push the workout to Suunto, you define a SuuntoPlus Guide. I don’t know how Coros or Apple Watch does handle it. So, Training Peaks - or any other platform for that matter - has to include the respective framework for each brand individually… The other way around, if you read the finished activity from the watch, there is a format that has been widely adopted: Garmin FIT files. I see, this makes sense…thank you

@Stefano-M64 darn it, package got lost somewhere… still waiting

@withManish On iOS there is rungap for datamigration. And I use strava and intervals.icu. It collects data from multiple sources (I had different brands in the past). But most importantly, data of 5 or 10 years ago hardly has any relevance. But I’m no hardcore data collector.

@Ze-Stuart it’s really a pity. I really hope they can push an update soon to improve the user experience.

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos can this be related to the crashes. https://forum.suunto.com/topic/15193/activities-end-by-itself-when-the-destination-reached-message-appears

@Elipsus no worries, I just shared the “why” : )

@Brad_Olwin Really? Very interesting as XC Skiing is my other Usecase for the Vertical. Sun and Snow together are so bright that the MIP really shines. Also the Solar power collection is welcome. For running I really like the Race S as it is much lighter and the OHR works perfectly since the last update. Waiting for an Ocean 2 Titanium in the Race 2 case. If the new display is that much better it would serve all my demands. But as long as RaceS (discounted), Vertical Titanium (used) and Mares Divecomp together cost less than the Ocean I will stick with this trio

Hopefully they’re able to fix it soon. It feels like with every update they just introduce more problems. Currently still experiencing the auto-update bug (can’t disable it essentially), and now the battery bug has gotten even worse.

@Joaquin Be careful not to chase perfection and in the end nothing is completed. The komoot route is a bit cumbersome and komoot is far from perfect (even if I tell komoot to not change the route, the route on my suunto race s is different than on my wife’s apple watch.) The garmin/wahoo way (select a gpx file and use the open with app) would be an improvement, even if not all tbt alerts are perfect. My first gps watch (a ambit 3 sport) only had breadcrumb navigation. Did I ever got lost? No. My watch after that, a forerunner 935, had breadcrumb and tbt alerts. (Which didn’t work well. A route could only have 50 navigation alerts and if you did your route reversed you lost all tbt alerts). Did I ever got lost? No. My first watch with maps (a forerunner 965) and having some context is nice. Eventually garmin fixed the 50 alert limit, but not the reverse problem and they introduced a timing bug (up to 10k the alerts are before a corner, after 20k alerts are in a corner, or after). And yes, on a twisty road you get alerts for every corner. Did I ever get lost? No. Now I have a suunto. Komoot is fine, but could be better. Autodetect of going reverse is good. No problem if I do a round route and the end is detected before the start (garmin has problems with this. Navigations stops when you reach the goal, which could be before you actually started). Autozoom actually works as one would except (garmin had autozoom, but that doesn’t work, or not as one should expect). But do I get lost ever? No. In the end, all are equally good in the “do not get lost” requirement. Is everything perfect? No. But don”t wait until everything is perfect. Release small steps. Get feedback. Improve some more.

@sky-runner You’re right… ! I see it similarly… it is certainly very difficult not to overload the Maps… POI like water points would certainly be useful on larger zoom levels… But they don’t care about trash cans at all…

@maszop sometimes you realise at the moment to download maps and … Yeah, otherwise this is just a discussion.