@Brad_Olwin & @Egika Thanks for the replies, but actually the firmware is still quite unstable, at least on my watch, despite the update. the HR sensor randomly turns off and to turn it back on I have to lift the sensor from my wrist and place it back on my skin. This happens several times a day. when I activate button lock, after about 15 minutes I can’t deactivate it anymore and I have to restart the watch The Always On Display setting gets randomly disabled even with full battery. I’m eagerly awaiting a bugfix update. I use the watch a lot for testing, monitoring SpO2, HR, sleep, doing 3-4 training sessions a day, changing sport modes to check the data, etc. I don’t know if these bugs only happen to me because of the intensive use I make of the sportwatch, but they shouldn’t happen anyway…

I’ve also tried unpairing all Bluetooth devices and changing the watch face, but the result is the same… I can see there are now reports about the Vertical 2 as well, so I really hope they’re working on a solution.

@LGoSo It actually worked! Unbelievable! The low resistance (dirt cheap CooSpo) belt - when combined with all the other measures I’ve taken worked 100%. It’s also changed the heart rate upper level and stabilised it at Zone 4 instead of VO2max - despite today being a minute faster over a 6k run than yesterday when my HR jumped for a sustained period in VO2max (H10+ belt). It’s the first time since I started posting here that anything has made sense. The H10+ strap is simply not working properly - and that appears to include BPM as well as HRV. I did need to shave the part of my torso where the strap goes, dry brush the skin and use a proper conductive gel - but the result is solid. When I had previously tried using the low resistance CooSpo strap with a hairy chest and just water the result was messy. Clearly, individual skin conductivity is involved in determining the limitations of the higher resistant straps. Looks like bad quality control in production - though this probably works for most people.

@Martin-Vrska said in Update: Returning My Vertical 2: @Luis-Andés-Olmedo I understand, but I don’t understand. I switched from Vertical 1 to Vertical 2 and when I put both machines next to each other, I can’t believe I could look at the V1 display - the colors are somewhere completely different. The endurance with my 3 hours of training per week, sleep tracking and connection to my mobile is more than a week and the screen experience is incomparable. Let me explain: with AOD OFF, the AMOLED display is too slow to turn on in certain situations, or it simply doesn’t let me see the time without moving my hand. With AOD ON, I feel like it’s artificial to have the watch emitting light all the time in everyday life; I just don’t like it. Maybe I’m too old-school. In any case, I hope I won’t need a watch with maps (that is the main reason why I have a smart-sports-watch) when MIP watches are no longer available. Then I’ll be able to train with any Casio or TIMEX Ironman.

@VoiGAS said in Navigation and pausing: @maszop So the buttons on the Vertical are working different than the ones of the Race? Sorry, I never used a Vertical and really don’t know the point is, that with a rotating crown, the crown is used exclusively to zoom the map. Something pretty much impossible, in winter with multiple sleeves and gloves. So the map will either zoom unintentionally from contact with clothes or difficult to operate with gloves. So me and others cannot use the crown in these cases and prefer a button-only watch.

@rooldaa I thought exactly the same thing and am very satisfied with the R2. I even suspect that the R2 is also well suited for mountaineering. I do miss the third button though.

Here is comparison of Suunto 5 (with Suunto Smart Sensor) vs Suunto Race 2 (OHR). I had Race 2 tight enough but still comfortible. It is possible to tighten it one hole more but than it is not comfortable to wear anymore. [image: 1760545658215-amcharts.png]

@bobbyfw03 wtedy do you mean by Discovery function?

@Tomas5 usually thing that are not mentioned in the release notes are not changed.

@tailwind_mrs seems suunto run is not a good choice for swimmer, hope it could do the same job as other series throughout software update in further perhaps (finger-cross), or, go back to Garmin? or race/vertical series… And by pressing the bottom button after each interval WON’T STOP the interval time, but SPLIT the interval distance & time, no CURRENT REST TIME in anywhere. However, press the top button will see CURRENT REST TIME, but cant split the interval. The “auto stop” seems can’t be deactivated, which is only option for me to track interval data.

iOS and Race 2, badges work, I have 11 in total.

@Alpha-156.42 said in OHR: Why do people believe that optical heart rate sensors, no matter if they’re from Garmin, Apple, or other brands, can measure heart rate accurately in every situation? This is why, text directly from suunto race 2 product page: The redesigned back panel enables better heart rate measurement from the wrist. The result? A seamless, powerful training experience. But text that it doesn’t work for everyone or every skin tone is buried somewhere in usermanual only. It is same with sleeptracking or any other metric. If you sell device for 500€ and advertise that it does something, then you must expect that people will require that advertised features just works. This is overal problem of marketing, not just Suunto.

I have a related problem where the watch links to my QUARQ pm, but then doesn’t pair duringhte ride. My stages PM is happy to pair along with my Karoo head unit. .

@halajos Here you go. This method is not as good as the method in my opening post with ruler. But it can be seen here too, yes. [image: 1760265355364-img_1023.jpeg]

With iOS 26.1 Beta 3, syncing with the iPhone 17 Pro seems to work. Hooray!

I also noticed that the weather location and temperature bar is lagging in updates. It shows old location and temperature readings and updates immediately when one of the buttons is pressed.

@VoiGAS no, I did a hard reset before the downgrade. Didn’t help.

@Brad_Olwin I am sorry if I was too rude, also I was not aware that only volonteers testers was handling this forum. The disappointed messages I sent was to Suunto and definitly not too you guys. Every answer I get from you is really appreciated even if they are not what I was expecting. I am the kind of guy to watch all kind of tests / videos/ guide about what I buy and I am expecting excellences. The thing is that those days it is almost impossible to have an accurate and non commercial vision of a product. Now I feel that I was mislead / cheat with my Suunto Ocean. I probably expect too much… But understand that with a more basic watch from G, I had many more features regarding my running expérience. Again sorry that my messages was rude but don’t take it personnally, they are all directed to Suunto internal team development. We are lucky to have you guys.

@sartoric said in Alarm clock not triggered at 00:00: Not to mention that, as I said, this is JUST a workaround, for sure the alarm must work as expected.