@janosm said in Crash and touch screen function not working - Vertical update to 2.39.44: @Brad_Olwin Thank you for the advice. May I ask you to help me with how to do a firmware revert? https://forum.suunto.com/topic/12183/software-update-2-39-20-2024-q4/341?_=1740031599839

@Girts-Gudrits Yes you are right, so widget does not work with hrv belt. Checked various sports modes reading works.

@Ghost it’s a great tool man!! Enjoy

Finaly I did it!!! I just deleted the app and reinstalled again!!! It was the same version, but it works!! Thanks for the answers!!

As @isazi says, you need to do the firmware update and possibly restart things, i had this with all 3 watches and when all updates was do e the shop showed me the watch faces.

@raven you are correct

@giuliosq said in treadmill runs totally out of calculation: @Tami999 just tried it today twice, after a treadmill 1k run my watch was at 1.5 k so adjusted it to 1k and tried it again but the second time it was out of 200 meters ill try again tomorrow and see if step by step it kind of sets accordingly to my arm movement… I did calibrate only once, I hope more will help. Let me know!:)

@Egika Understand everything. Thanks for help!!

@larrybbaker no

@isazi ALMOST CONFIRM. My all data from the Suunto account is downloaded to the Intervals except BIKE trening. Why? I have used my Vertical to track my training. What could have gone wrong? I created a custom workout based on Road Cycling.

@maszop so can a shortcut be added to the right side of the watch’s home screen? (we can add widgets to the left side)

@Squirrel thanks, all good.

@Shrek3k said in Does the Suunto Vertical need a Cardio strap?: @Tami999 I am with @Brad_Olwin … OHR works excellent for me with all activities for the last years, be it running, hiking, cycling, Nordic walking, swimming, etc. But that does not seem to be the case for everyone. And although it works perfectly for me: I like ZoneSense, and that means using a belt. Recommendation: try it - and never underestimate how important the right position of the watch and tightness of the watch-strap is. [image: 1754732357099-1000000384.jpg] That’s photo I found from march from very light jogging on theeadmill when I started adventure with running and prepare it for more intense. Anyway I think also software put his 5 cents because I think at the beginning 2 years ago my Vertical that I used worked very good during activities like cycling and noticed these drops after some time (could be after update). I also remember I could take off watch without pause activity, see it’s losing contact with my skin, put it on hand again see 40 HR back than after 5 mins of running - Boom! back to 140+ without doing anything . I always got watch on the same spot above wrist bone, with same tight. I tested different straps, spot on hand or just loose/tight strap Now I running with belt and it keeping 170-180 almost all the time without any drops.

On the Athletic watch face seconds are always visible. Possible one or two others faces also.

@Egika Yes! Adding tides to the weather widget is the way to go!

@Sascha-Domres Thank you for your remarks. I don’t want to risk falling down when running while looking at the map. At the same time I want to keep the stats of my run as correct as possible. If I stop to pan the map and plan my next move, I don’t want the watch to record the activity as if I was running. This makes the map a bit pointless if I can’t work with them when an activity is paused. I hope Suunto will come with new firmware to enable panning the map while an activity is paused. I support your suggestion to extend the zooming possibilities. Is there any special thread or group where people could make such suggestions and Suunto developers would see what are the most poignant concerns? I hope they visit the forum anyway, but I’d expect a special thread/voting for the most preferred requests. Thanks.

@deserthike20 Thank you. At first this was exactly what I did and it didn’t help, unpairing the Suuntoapp only from the watch. However, I was in the end lucky enough to use an OTG reduction to connect a USB mouse to the old mobile phone. With that and a lot of patience I somehow unlocked the screen, launched the Suuntoapp and unpaired the watch. No records lost, job done, relief. This discussion thread could be archived.

@isazi Resume function would also be nice in the case of a sudden freeze/reboot of the watch. A long time ago I had a Garmin and during a workout it crashed (happened only once). After restart I could simply resume the activity and no data was lost.

Now it’s constantly in the 60-70% range. I have no idea why. Would be great to have insight how this is calculated and if the algorithm is different compared to S9PP

@markeczzz interesting observation. Do you have an idea what could be different for the watch when you are climbing? The watch is basically trying detect the capillary blood flow. Bad measurements could come from a too tight strap (blood flow interrupted), a to loose strap (watch shaking and thus variation in the optical path), cold temperatures (capillaries have less blood), using poles (introducing rythmic vibrations of the watch), tatoos, etc. What parameter (within arm/watch) are changing when you climb? Maybe you can observe anything?