Sorry to pull this topic up again. Has there been a change in the recent FW Updates for 9PP? Or is it a limitation / bug of the APP. I had 20 routes on the watch and now I had to remove 6 routes to add a new one? This seems to be an limitation just in the app not on the watch! I want my 20 routes back

@giuliosq the Vertical 2 has a way advanced sensor and might do what you want from it. The first gen Vertical and Race both have sensors that work for some, but most speak badly about them…

@SamuelP @voigas My watch is fine too, but hers isn’t. We trained together and I saw her watch, so it’s not something fake or something

@Squirrel It says 3.1.9

@Gunnar i think something else 502 Bad Gateway nginx

It happened to me as well in September. I think it was caused by water, but they didn’t explain anything to me. I sent it in for service and they replaced it with a brand-new model

@Mff73 Haha, well, thanks for the tip. I´ll try it the next time

You cannot manage Suunto POIs in Routeplanner but you can add user waypoints along your route. You do that by tapping/clicking one of the planning points, the big white dots that are created every time you tap/click the map to create the route. From the popup menu then select ‘Name as waypoint’ and it will be converted into a waypoint visible on your route and during navigation. For the watch data fields yes, all of those are available in Sport mode customization when creating a new sport mode.

Under 2.50.26, I notice that my overnight, off-wrist battery consumption approximately doubles (vs 2.46…) My only change for the new FW was to enable North-up mapping. 2.50… did add the wifi weather updates (which do not work for me … could there be repetitive attempts by the watch to connect to wifi and the App that drain power?)

https://us.suunto.com/pages/suunto-race-2-user-guide that is specific to Race 2 but same setting in Vertical.

@helgonet12 sure, soft reset is just a workaround to see the correct weekly status

@aiv4r Where I live I have to often ski uphill a little bit even with the lifts, because the plateau is often not perfectly flat. That wouldn’t make my workout neither XC, nor backcountry though. Granted, the watch could probably allow to make a custom sport mode where the elevation is always set to 0 automatically. It’s the same as skiing on the lake. It’s absolutely flat, yet the watch calculates elevation gain due to the fact that it’s hard to detect the actual elevation both with GPS and barometer.

I had problems before with intermittent disconnects with the Suunto smart sensor and Polar Varity sense, but it wasn’t to bad or long. On saturday I had my first total failure. Started the activity, on the startup screen it picked up the Polar Varity sense and connected to it. When the activity started the watch lost connection to it, and didn’t connect to it for the whole duration of activity (8 h). The sensor was on and broadcasting over bluetooth. This is a really bad bug. The OHR is not good enough for accurate tracking, and now the external sensors wont’ work.

@vinc14 …

said in Serious problems with navigation with GPX routes: @maszop Several months have passed, and of course, nothing has changed. The problems remain. It’s still impossible to change the route during ascent or descent. And there are still serious problems with breadcrumb display. [image: Photo-2025-08-11-11-17-01-AM.png] The problem persists. Another software update, and such a serious bug has been ignored.