@westie Same here… I have just checked my SV, there’s literally no scratch on the sensor. I guess I am not training enough 🙂

For a week now, I’ve been tracking my naps during the day in addition to my nighttime sleep. The Vertical records the times without any problems and reliably.

There’s just one problem with it. The sleep times are added up on the Vertical, but not in the Suunto app. The HRV values ​​are added up in the Suunto app, but not on the Vertical.

So I have different values ​​in the watch and in the app that can never match.

Something needs to be improved here. 🤔

@seanvk
possible, but these events don’t happen often… crashes are not frequent and neither are map updates.

@altcmd said in PLZ fix the Vertical…:

André-Faria I am sure Suunto is trying but saying ‘if they are able to’ is rather defeatist. Hire the right people to push your software. And yes, I do want to believe what some testers are saying about how the new algos are working but the reality is my personal experience here matters and that will happen when there is an update. Let’s see!

Which testers said that…

@zhang965 walking will definitely get more distance as the gps track will not be smooth and is more zig Zac.

@Egika said in Vertical Map fantasies:

@Tieutieu your other fantasy might just become true:
https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9955/maps-update-rollout-december-2023

Great news

@dreamer_ Yea, it’s not crucial but still useful.
Tonight I got 4 hours instead of 8 hours. But to be fair this night was hard since I had to go up in the middle of the night to help my kid, and after 20 min go back to sleep

@zhang965 I wonder if it would be better if you were to stop for a few seconds or change directions.

I think that there’s plenty of dead reckoning and other magic filtering going on in Sony’s GPS firmware. It seems to me that the firmware is somehow smoothing the direction error over time, which is apparent when moving constantly in non-ideal conditions (i.e. cycling in the forest).

Perhaps in your case, the signal was too weak and since you were constantly doing the same loop and turning in the same direction, the smoothing error was overlaid on each loop.

Hi, I am encountering the same blank screen
I have a Vertical Solar Titanium, brand new, 1.5 months old, never had encountered any issue at all.
During a snorkelling session, very soft, the watch started to glitch and became more and more unresponsive, first the central button was not working, then the upper, then I tried to reboot it by keeping pressed the button, and it went off completely. Now it is “dead” with no signs of life.

Nothing is happening even if connected to the charger, the 12 seconds don’t do a thing.
I have been suggested by the support to hold the upper button for 60 secs while charging, with no luck.

Do you have any more suggestions, except to send it in Finland to check it? It must be software related, the hardware is almost perfect.

@Manuele
Same thing happened. But it wasn’t with snorkeling, rather open water swimming. Even though I swam a couple hundred meters, the watch detected the distance as 0. After ending the activity, watch was unresponsive. I restarted it, went to swimming again; same thing. Only this time it wouldn’t turn on after shutting it down. I tried it all, different button combinations, placing it to charge… nothing. I’ve received a replacement watch from a retailer, and I’ll be honest, I’m afraid to turn on swimming again. I’m 100% sure that it’s a software issue, as water damage would be very obvious, in all other areas the watch is perfect. Odd that this is the case with a minority of people, as I’ve read on other threads.

@Brad_Olwin said in GPS Lock and Drift:

@stromdiddily said in GPS Lock and Drift:

@Brad_Olwin

That’s what has me thinking there might be something up with mine. Folks are raving about the accuracy and if this was a common occurrence, someone else would have brought it up (5k, dc, etc)

I agree and would wait for the firmware update coming this fall. That will give you a good reboot as well. If this continues I would definitely contact support. I will look back through my files but I cannot remember an issue like this with my Vertical using either production firmware or newer FT firmware.

New firmware and after a factory reset for my battery drainage problem. Second run after all that and first at this location so basically the same symptoms as before w offset tracks 😞

I sent my logs to Suunto today. Not sure if I have a problem but with my experience I certainly would not describe the GPS accuracy as groundbreaking or phenomenal 😞

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@Sascha-Domres you are right for it is useless for hiking planing - and for safty - i do not understand why suunto act like this

@Frederick-Rochette Detailed sleep analysis, nap detection

@neonix If you read here and there, I think that next update will have its core in navigation. I would also like to see, as you, some peak, lake,… names as reference. Regarding automatic reverse route, it has been there since the Spartan Ultra and once you use it you will see that you do not need any option, it works really well.
One thing that I see that Garmin has and would be very nice to have is some routing in the watch, I mean, I do not want to plan my route in the watch but some times you are doing one route and for some reason you need to cut it and return to the starting point or some known spot and with Garmin you can plan the shortest route in the watch, with Suunto you need the app for that with cell coverage (with offline maps in the app could be doable in Suunto without cell coverage)

BTW, I do not not know if you know it but a nice feature in Suunto is that you can change routes mid activity and send them from the app to the watch mid activity too.

@Hristijan-Petreski I’m looking forward to seeing what Suunto has coming up for the Vertical. I do really like the watch so far.

@sartoric so how do I interpret the active calories in the daily summary? I always thought the active calories should match the workout calories plus add regular walking / higher hr than rest.

@Ollipolli Do you have screenshots of the/ your activities that show different values?
It’s supposed to be fixed weeks ago and for me the values match/ are identical between SA and Strava.

@inkognito It may be that for specific instances it does not reverse or that where start and finish are matter.
I typically do out and back on the weekend without issues. When testing I will fail to reach the destination and start back along the path I came. After some time 5 min or so the route profile will flip, typically after the map shows the new direction.

@Steven-Vanlancker said in Choosing Suunto?:

@mikekoski490 Thanks! I did the comparison. Seems most is the same, maps and battery life stands out. Now see if that’s worth 450. The SPP9 is indeed a beauty 😍

The stainless steel Vertical can be found for 540€:
https://www.sport-conrad.com/en/products/suunto/vertical.html

@Jonathan-Schwarz Suunto … unfortunately I will not become a new user of your ecosystem. It’s no longer about the individual watch type, but that you don’t fix basic things.