@Francesco-Pagano said: @raven I appreciate how confidently you can say what I didn’t do. If you look at my graph you will see 40 minutes of steady pace / effort. I am not even skeptical about the AeT value reported - that would still have little value to ny training - but rather about the fact that ZS shows I’m still doing aerobic training when my effort increases (also shown in the graph). Right, that steady pace at the start looks to be around 5:50/km and you reported you go above your aerobic threshold these days at 6:00/km Quoting you: “ My aerobic runs used to be around 5:30 min/km below 145 bpm, now I’m well above that heart rate at 6:00 min/km. Today after 40 minutes of another miserably slow run with elevated HR” Given your own reporting, that chart and info didn’t look like an easy warm up effort to me but instead an effort over threshold. ZoneSense requires a lighter effort in the first ten minutes. However, I admit may have read the chart wrong though or misunderstood you. If aerobic threshold (AeT) = 162 bpm, and Anaerobic threshold (AnT) typically sits 10–20 bpm higher than AeT, then an estimate of that would be: 172–182 bpm. Then max HR is higher than that. If all if that sounds right, then perhaps ZoneSense is correct. However, note an effort below AeT typically should pass a “talk test,” being able to speak whole sentences comfortably, without gasping for breath.

@Egika I confirm ios

The previous version of USB could not connect to Ambit2, but this time it can connect normally. [image: 1788493394848-sommet136.png]

@Francesco-Pagano Thank you for your responses. I have followed exactly the same steps as you described and as outlined in the instructions. However, the connection with the app still cannot be established. I have also deleted and reinstalled the app, disconnected and re-paired the Bluetooth connection, but unfortunately nothing seems to work. I also tried the entire process with my work phone, which is an iPhone SE (2021), but I experienced exactly the same issue there. Therefore, I suspect that there may be a problem with the connection between iOS and Suunto.strikethrough text

@raven Unfortunately the power portion of the Jetblack BT does not work on my Suunto V2. That is why I am asking. It only sees Cadence and something else (it has been a minute sorry) I had to connect my assiomo pedals to get power to the Suunto. So I was hoping…

@jussim thank you, it works on android and debugging the settings requires republishing the app. I’ll test on ios, see what I can do and get back to you in a few days.

@MdzOtt Thank you for the info. I was just wondering if the connection would persist, when no S+ Apps are enabled. Just to find out if there is any connection between the issue and the S+ Apps. But now we also have the new software, where we do not know if an improvement for the connection drops was included or not. So two Options to test. btw, I think the ZoneSense App is not necessary anymore, as it is included as “standard” Data in the trainings.

@HonzaS yes, but that doesn’t excuse providing garbage data, if ZoneSense calculate this, then it shouldn’t display it…its the most basic data validation you can do !

@johann.fuehrer right. New we start over at the beginning: The energy saving display only cannot display more data than what is available. It cannot be configured. To show the needed data, it is totally possibly to use the full wake mode. One has to decide between energy saving or a lot of information. I was now referring to the statement that not a single watch face could display the required data.

Same for me during last days

I have a race s. I use it with vibration as a coach… to run a drill with a group and know when to move to next, using the countdown or intervals. I want ideally to see this visually on the watch screen. The outer ring is the most preferred. For some watch faces they do show a small countdown graphic but it’s no where as good. I might be an unusual user but I bought the watch really for vibration and countdown. It works but the visual is poorer than rivals. Most frustrating though is for a few days I had the outer ring working exactly as I wanted. Then an update came through and changed it. I’ve tried everything but can’t resolve. I checked online and it’s mentioned as a reason why some people don’t buy Suunto.

@surfboomerang Thanks, it is ok now!

@Egika Hi Egika, and thanks for the reply yeah, i got that the watch itself don’t need a phone to give voice comments, and i guess that the default voice volume on the watch, is set to a steady default level. Do you know if one can adjust the voice volume-level? or maybe possible to adjust (via the media-player) and then the volume for music, will apply for the voice too?

@Joan-Borràs There are two S+ timer apps. Maybe one could help? [image: 1788175592387-screenshot_20260831_132556_suunto.jpg]

@johann.fuehrer I guess we have a bug unless there is other explanation

@elbee Thanks for the insight! That definitely sounds plausible. I’m still going to keep tinkering with it and hoping it cooperates properly at some point, but it’s good to know I’m not the only one running into quirks with it.

My vertical 2 has not had any tide updates for several weeks after a few weeks of updating every 5-6 days for a few weeks. I am in Scotland within metres of the sea.

@Jesús-LP there have been recently some issues with climb guidance, that should have been solved. We just have to wait for the next App update https://forum.suunto.com/post/196697

@Louise-Roo According to the user manual, it seems that the Suunto Run isn’t compatible with external sensors others than foot pod and HR : [image: 1788355395078-00b5dee5-b0a6-4c04-b0f8-f9aff5605e01-image.jpeg] But weirdly, on the french spec sheet, it talks about being able to use power meter for cycling : [image: 1788355492595-6efeeae0-edf6-4805-8cc0-b13b1934ff3b-image.jpeg]