@Brad_Olwin thanks this is helpful. its a bit hard to find some of the more elevation oriented information on a variety of devices online…not very many of the user guides or forums or reviews really address it specifically enough, though this one is probably by far the best and most thorough place!
The suunto 9 BARO as it is called now seems to be a very good sports watch but it is not perfect. I recently spoke to the guy who wrote this suunto 9 Baro review and he was telling me that he loved it but he is still unconvinced with the apps. He loved the extended battery life and metrics. I am toying between buying this one of a Garmin 6X Pro. Lening more towards the suunto as I have an ambit 3 already and the 9 Baro looks like a solid watch all-round.
When I discovered A2, I realized that, thanks to it, I could now go wherever I wanted, without maps and without anyone’s help, I could explore the wilds all over the world. I realized that A2 is the tool that allows me to be a real adventurer. And if something goes wrong, A2 will bring me home! It was wonderful and I was happy. Today, S9 does not have the resources (at least at this stage) to give me this adventure experience. I really hope that the Suunto team will correct this huge omission!
@Brad_Olwin the standby time is estimated to 60% or did you measure it? so with all functions on and a little bit of training the battery lasts just 2,5 days per charge 🧐?
Turn off sleep tracking, daily HR (this is the battery eater) and the backlight off and you will get your 8-10 days with around 4-6h performance GPS. Besides the battery meter is not proportional, I mean depending on the % you are seems the discharge is faster and then slows down, this I have seen it in a lot of devices with batteries. I would also wait a few charge-discharge cycles before take any conclusions.
This is true, I had everything on and did a few exercises. The 24/7HR, continuous connection to mobile and sleep tracking take some toll on the battery. Without those or with just mobile connection the watch will go much longer.
So, just also be aware when MC will be definitely transitioned, you may also not be able to create a new custom triathlon mode for your Spartan.
Future MC will only remain watch setting capabilities for Ambit series and not for Spartan (at least I understand that).
@brad_olwin gotcha. Sorry for my attitude - I simply find it shocking as I regard Suunto as a company who treats UI/UX very seriously and this example is just plain bad for the unsuspecting user.
Anyway, here’s my rather simple solution with some assumptions:
We’re not modifying ETA algorithms or doing any “deep” work.
ETA fields can’t force 1s GPS out of the blue.
Here’s the course of action:
Enter the workout screen.
Check if workout has ETA fields present.
Check if workout has a battery mode that sets GPS to other than 1s.
If two above are true, wait for 1 - 3 seconds and display what follows:
The above mockup is relevant to a situation when user has selected (or has used before) an “Endurance” battery mode but the bottom part should display “Ultra” or “Custom” with appropriate colors when appriopriate.
Why wait for 1 - 3 seconds?
This message should be triggered when conditions are met and should prevent starting the activity. However - users may want to cycle the battery modes with upper button until they reach their preferred one, so a delay is necessary to avoid displaying the same message for Endurance, and then for Ultra and then for Tour and for Custom - you get the idea.
The information is there, the choice is to be made
We have a simple info that in order to see the ETA the watch needs a different battery mode than selected by the user.
The difference it makes
You can switch to “Performance” (or modify your custom battery mode to 1s GPS) and get your ETA fields working AND get accurate battery life estimation pre-workout. Or you can use different battery modes without ETA fields enforcing 1s fix but see “–” instead of an actual data.
So your garmin overregisters ascent. Take this with a grain of salt but I live in NL. If I apply the same philosophy at some flats I ll be ascenting like 100+ meters that is not realistic. -+1m changes should not be reported as they do not really contribute to any effort the user should take into account for his performance lever nor data wise. That is counting noise basically.
I wrote something similar just days ago 🙂
And yes, my Edge registers hundreds of meters of ascent in Amsterdam, that gladly Runalyze fixes on its own.
@zhang965 Seems like most of you do not run ultras. FusedTrack is the most amazing feature since having GPS track runs!!! It does not matter if I use Performance, Endurance or Ultra mode. I don’t have to charge my watch ever during a race and it will last for the longest single event I may attempt (70h) or 3day fastpacks! Plus, the watch is easy to use and I like the UI, my zones for HR or Power allow me not to put those fields on the screen.
#2 and this is a biggie. Do you forget that in navigation the ambit went as the bird flies??? The S9 has the distance based on the route, another major deal.
All the others that we get with SA! Immediate route drawing and transfer from the phone. Offline sync.
This is a really old one lol
Do you use hiking sport mode + endurance for the fast packing trips? Or do you consider that a trail run. I’m sure it’s been answered before just not sure on the GPS behavior between hiking and running sport modes for the alternative GPS settings.
I typically use a Trail Run mode, as I will be doing jogging when on trails with FastPack trips. I am often off trail as well but moving as quickly as possible (can be considered very slow 30 min/mile or worse) but I view these as similar to Ultras so “Trail Run” mode. I do not go on trips with a heavy pack where I cannot jog unless an overnight SkiMo, which is neither a run or hike.
I do use Hiking modes but those are for hikes only with friends or family where there is no running involved.
It’s not just you. And it hasn’t always been the case at Suunto.
The main Ambit menu is looped and customisable to the extent that you can hide un-wanted functions. Either, both or full customisation would be nice in a more advanced watch. Perhaps just the option to reorder the list.
[Mountain/molehill Mode ON] It’s a long, slow slog from Settings to Environment or annoying to go back in order to go forward. [Mountain/molehill Mode OFF] [… Still a bloody mole problem, tho’.]
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos serious? Well in smartphones sometimes you have issues in seeing so is logic what you say, yes.
Yup. I just hate amoleds. Even cannot see my smartphone.
I run with the s7 in Greece with polarized glasses, couldn’t see a thing.
I have the same issue with my smartphone. That’s why the angle of the plane of polarization in LCDs matter. All LCDs should have it at 45° in smartphones and 90° in watch displays. How is it angled in the S7?