@Jamdog2477 I was a loyal Suunto user for a few years, I changed it to Polar and for 3 years I used a new watch (Grit X and Grit X2), my wife has Pacer, my daughter Ignite3. I got used to the lack of updates but I prefer Suunto, which I returned to, to make updates less frequently but without errors. If it appears 1 in half a year I will be happy, only one condition without any bugs and checked for functionality and efficiency of the system.