@nhojb said in Race S pool swim accuracy got really bad: I pool swim very regularly and up until the last update distance / length accuracy has been great. Since my watch updated to 2.39.44 a couple of days ago accuracy has got really, really bad. For example I did a 1040m swim yesterday and it measured 700m. Today I did 1240m and it registered even less distance. Previously it was pretty much bang on. Seems like a serious regression. Anyone else having similar issues? Yes. The update brought a lot of bad changes. It broke the distance measurement, swimming style reading and interval splitting.

this is such an interesting post to me as I am also an ex-garmin user (ancient FR 45), trying out the race s, and getting annoyed with a few things which are making me think to bite the bullet and get a FR 965, but this has given me pause!! A really big problem is an annoying function garmin recently added: forced audio tbt alerts. Either your connected phone or your headphones will give spoken tbt alerts and those cannot be turned off. Obviously a lot of users complained. Garmin is aware but couldn’t be bothered. a big pull for me with the garmin was that i could use spotify with it direct, leaving my phone behind. but that issue would make that useless, and to see that this has been around for 8+ months with no fix is wild. The charge cable on my suunto is better. But that is mainly because I don’t like the plug garmin uses. yeah this kind of ‘magsafe’ charger is much better. can’t believe garmin are still using plugs in 2025, for $500+ watches no less! Garmin has 2 buttons on the rightside, the top one for start and stop activities, the bottom for lap. Suunto also uses the bottom one for laps, but sometimes the digital crown is in the way. Stopping an activity on a suunto is a bit weird. It doesn’t work on the maps/breadcrumb screen. Also, you have to press the top button, then the bottom one, and lastly the digital crown to really end and save the activity. On a garmin, if you just want to end an activity it’s only 2 buttons clicks. strong agree. the maps thing is particularly annoying (and unnecessary). i feel like a running watch should allow you to always blindly stop and resume activities with one or two button presses. also the touch screen seems to not work in some contexts (eg stopping and ending a run). one thing i can’t seem to get nice on my suunto is the smartwatch notifications. on garmin i could turn the notifications on for ‘during activity’ (useful), but for suunto it’s either on or off for everywhere. so after a run i need to turn on DND or turn the watch off to avoid having it beeping and vibrating, when i have my phone covering that anyway. what was pulling me to the 965 was the on-watch map routing, and the ability to connect spotify and payments, but mostly it was because the basics of starting/stopping activities and how the buttons worked seemed logical and intuitive to me, whereas with suunto i feel like i’m finding all these weird quirks where things don’t work how i would expect them. BUT the 965 seems huge, expensive and ugly to me, whereas the suunto S is extremely cute and feels expensive, despite being about 40% cheaper. plus the garmin app has never made any sense to me. i think my worry is that (like Garmin), suunto don’t seem to have a great feedback loop of user feature requests/bug reports. you can find the same/similar issues with maps and notifications logged in the forums months or even years back. nothing is perfect, but i am going to keep trying with my race s to see if i can live with this stuff.

@far-blue at that occurance I’ve been on the guide page. I’ve noticed another difference to Garmin in how the trainging works and I think that is related. In Garmin there is a lap recorded for each step of the training, if you dig in the FIT file. For Suunto the whole training is not split in laps. I guess that is why the lap button did not advance the Guide. I asked TAO directly but no reply, yet.

@Federico I had the same problems with sleep recording. It started to work about one week after I enabled the 24/7 HR measurement and sleep recording. No idea about VO2 max, though. I suppose it also depends on the sport you practice and the HR max you reach and for how long. For example, VO2 won’t be recorded if you do walking or other low HR activities. Another solution is just to change watch. I have had Suunto for 20 years now, and I am really fed up with them. I gave back last year 1 Suunto 9 and 1 Suunto 9 plus because of quite unreliable HR measurements and totally crazy open water swimming GPS tracks. The last decent Suunto was the Ambit 3 Peak, which I still have. A. bit outdated, bulky and very uncomfortable to wear, however reliable and with decent measurements.

On the Stryd part, don’t use S+ Stryd app, it’s not helpful. Pair your stryd as footpod to your watch and it’ll give you power, pace, distance and cadence.

@2b2bff it’s the only way without using DND (as you wrote you won’t use DND) . I understand your setting with phone in other room.

@Feenadk I experienced the same issue with Humango. But in my case, I didn’t see the workout in the Guides in the Suunto App at all. It turned out that the problem was in the programmed heart rate, pace or power ranges in the planned workout. Once I changed the ranges, I saw the workout in the Guides and it synced with the watch.

@tatian246 then the race s i a great device! Highly recommend it! IMO the best value for any actual sportswatch and you’ll love the route planner in the Suunto app for planing hikes

@isazi sounds fair

@Brad_Olwin yes but I’m unsure currently how to get it right. I have another issue in that I can’t record Stryd Air Power unless I use the Suunto Stryd app but I don’t seem to be able to use that app to execute planned workouts from TrainingPeaks. It’s all quote fussy in comparison to what I’m used to.

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos cause we did it at the beach and i can See some places in the Maps in the App ️

@Eric-Rütschlin Another lack I took for granted. I guess I have to wait a little longer with Suunto…

@Simon-0 Suuntoapp is registering activities without knowing your HR zones (it is using default ones). Maybe an hint to explain metrics differences like calories?