@Shuhite my top priorities are as follows: build quality battery life support/future proofing Apple has quality but a battery that will not cut it for me. Garmin always hides their newest features behind the next generation of hardware (Suunto rolls features out as long as the hardware supports it). The milivolt handshake signal from the 2nd pin. Add in water and salt and you got yourself an etching cell. To me that’s a deal breaker for Garmin. Can’t trust it won’t fail with how I use things. Don’t get me wrong I’m obsessed with music, go to 20+ concerts a year level of love for music but my phone is with me in all instances where I listen. Having it on the watch would be redundant in my case and wouldn’t have the ability to EQ like I could on a watch or dedicated mixer at home/office. Music off my watch would actually be a downgrade (support Lossless? FLAC?) compared to how I currently listen. I have a Swiss army knife, can open a box and has some scissors in there as well. It’s a bad choice for back country and wouldn’t trust it. I have a purpose built fixed blade for that. Same with my Vertical.

@herlas Thanks, my Stryd died last year and I am not planning on replacing it.

@alschmid My experience is with the latest software. I did have not have the watch prior to the current SW release. But, I did read the thread about the widgets and agree, there should be more widgets easily accessible. So, I have set up weather as the right swipe widget and using short cut button for maps. It kind of works for me.

@Jason-Keltner I’ll send you a PM

@Sergey-K you will not have backlight bleed with amoled

@seanvk possible, but these events don’t happen often… crashes are not frequent and neither are map updates.

@MiniForklift Yes but the pacing estimation would be more realistic

@SauliusP A little bit more info…? Have you already rebooted the watch and checked if sleep settings were enabled?

@wheeler fantastic news! …but I am going to freak out once they add this: [image: 1712685441535-bfd22d2e-c41d-4b91-b09b-1f002943a44f-image.jpeg]

Today the first time, that my Vertical powered off after charging and I was forced to do a soft reset. I forgot to remove the watch from the charger after the 100 % were shown and I think this is the trigger for the bug. If I remove the watch immediately after charging to 100 % there has not been any problem until now.

@SuperFlo75 Same. Has been pretty accurate for me with running and trail running activities - gym not quite as good - but that obviously has more arm movements involved.

@Girts-Gudrits 9PP, Vertical and Race are different from previous generation watches. You don’t get to choose from which GNSS to use but since the watch can use up to 32 satellites, all systems are being used all the time and the watch is choosing the best ones available.

@Gilles-D In testing prior to releasing the Stryd a number of us tested Suunto power vs Stryd. They were very close. That was with the Wind version and I do not know if newer versions are different. Suunto power is a little less sensitive for me as I notice that the max on very hard intervals is a bit lower with Suunto but averages were very close.

@Elipsus I reported it to Suunto, cannot do much more than this.

@thailon PM me and I should be able to help you. I am in US so it may take a bit of time. Sorry this happened but there may be a simple fix.

@Mff73 no youre right, it gives the last ones, my bad. sorry, thanks for being on point!

@Mirage10 If you search for this you may find answers. Have you attempted a soft reset? you need HR enabled 24/7 Sleep tracking enabled I would advise having Auto DND enabled and HRV on When you wake up it may take a few minutes to get the Notification for Sleep Tracking