@vicaroka This should not occur. If you have done a full factory reset you should contact support. The S5 is not recognized by MC so that doesn’t matter.

@Łukasz-Szmigiel said in The logic behind default GPS mode settings in different sports modes:

FYI: This is even more buggy than I initially thought. I just realized it as I was too lazy to change it to either Custom or Performance so I left it on broken post-custom Endurance. However when looking at path it seemed strange to me that the points plotted on the map are more like in 1 min fix instead of 2 min fix. So I’ve downloaded GPX from QS and it’s indeed 1 min fix.

It seems that S5 doesn’t switch to Endurance from Custom. It seems so from the UI but judging from the GPX - the track is actually saved in 1 min intervals, so:

There’s no OHR because the watch enforces Endurance and the UI changes to orange.

But the GPS mode is as defined in custom (Good = 1 min).

So what results is some kind of weird amalgamation Not a custom sports mode and not a default Endurance either.

Steps to reproduce:

Go to any outdoor mode
Go to battery modes, set custom
Set OHR on, set GPS good
Confirm custom
Notice start screen turns blue
Either exit start screen or start the activity (doesn’t matter, it’ll work this time)
Go to the same activity
Notice the UI changes color to orange, indicating the watch defaults to Endurance
Start the activity and record ~15 min or more
Check GPX for timestamps - after initial few minutes of 1 sec it defaults to 1 min.

Thanks for the heads-up! Sounds like a tricky bug with the S5 not properly switching to Endurance mode despite showing the UI change. The GPS fix sticking to 1 minute instead of 2, along with no OHR, definitely makes it seem like a strange mix of modes. Your steps to reproduce are clear, and it’s helpful to know what to watch for with the GPX timestamps. Hopefully, a fix is on the way for this! 😄

@juhis70 said in Running cadence only half most of the time. Running steps incorrect, too:

Anyways, my running is going well

And that’s what matters the most. 👍

@jamie-bg yes i agree with you. And for me it wasn’t reason why i bought this watch so it is just nice bonus to have at least some results. I bought suunto 5 because i like design and features of suunto watches for gps tracking and recording activities.

@łukasz-szmigiel gps + galileo looks best. With manual pause. I did exactly same hike today as few months ago. Now distance is correct and accuracy quite good. I see zig-zag on route but it is not much and didn’t increase distance so it is ok. And even elevation and ascend descent was correct. I must say after some time i am happy with result.

Edited: i use gps + galileo 🙂

@suzzlo Agreed, interesting idea but on the bike I might not use this mode and set up a screen with more parameters since it is easier to see.

So i was testing this a lot last two weeks. While breast swimming style, i must put my hand few centimeters above water and wait 10-30 seconds to get gps fix every time i want to record swimmed distance. It is sometimes hard to do if there are waves but it is possible. But after some time i just stoped doing it and recorded just openwater swimming without GPS. So i have just time and stroke. I think strome rate and time is more important than GPS track. Since there are water currents distance is less accurate tu measure work done.

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I have several routes in SA, around half of them synchronized with the watch. There were 3 routes in watch memory when the bug occurred this time.

This feature is so important to me, I have sent my S5 back. Otherwise I really liked the watch. OHM didn’t work for me (but that was expected) and the strap was too short for my wrist, but the S5 is built solidely and GPS worked fine. And of course I dislike the Suunto App.
Have to go for Polar now as I see the Garmin world with my woman’s watch and really don’t like it.
I hope Suunto will introduce the individual HR zones in the next years and create a web based platform again. Then I will be back to Suunto.

@olli2709 said in Problems with sport mode after update to 2.14.12:

@isazi 😊 i will try another cable next time and an other usb-port. Never give up 😀 . Thanks for help !!!

Make sure your computer is not trying to sleep either. I have never had this happen during an update either.

Today AGPS back 🙂

@surfboomerang
I think my new job is too stressful 😉

@Mff73 This afternoon, I wore a watch on my right wrist and the problem was solved.
Thank you all!

@S-Boardman Are you syncing with Suunto App once per day? Is the green GPS icon lighting up on the watch prior to your start? It is possible that you do not have a current AGPS file and the watch does not “know” where you are. The route will not show properly under those circumstances. To check AGPS on the watch go to Settings/General/About and make sure the AGPS file is current. If not you need to sync with SA and ensure GPS is optimized and a current (today’s date) AGPS file is present.

I’m probably quite late for this party but as I also upgraded from a Spartan Trainer to the Suunto 5, let me just chime in for whoever has this same question in the future.

downside:

vibration is weaker

it doesn’t sync to Movescount (but by now the Spartan Trainer probably doesn’t sync to Movescount anymore either)

positives

you can now actually use the vibration as a wake-up alarm (both in absolute time as well as relative to sunrise in case you want to wake up in time for a sunrise pedalboard session or anything) and even though the vibration is weaker than the Trainer, it does wake me up

you get this visual representation of the sunrise and sunset times on your homescreen, which I really appreciate

it also shows moon phases (for whoever appreciates that)

depending on which Spartan Trainer you have now, you may not currently have a stainless steel bezel which the 5 does have (painted or plain)

battery lasts a bit longer

there are a couple of SuuntoPlus features which you might appreciate. I personally like the “loop” and “sprint” functions thereof.

Compared to other Suunto watches, it indeed does not have a built in compass (though if you’re moving, it can show your heading which is useful too). The external GPS antenna doesn’t bother me. Like the Trainer, the unit is smaller than the Ambit 2S and Ambit 3 Peak (which I also have). If the 9 offers you something that you really want/need then of course get that. But if you were happy with the Trainer then you’ll likely also appreciate the 5.

@juhis70

I’m facing a similar situation with the steps recorded.

I am undergoing rehabilitation after a hip surgery and I have been cleared to walk outdoors using crutches whilst tracking pace, time and distance.

Everyday I walk the same route, and the first 3-4 weeks the device was registering similar values like my previous activity band and Apple Health.

However, since about 2 weeks ago, the step counting has decreased significantly, the steps on Apple Health and the activity band remain as they did before.

Is there any calibration process I should consider?

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@tomas5
I support this feature request! we should be informed if

the satellites are locked the precision is good enough to get the correct altitude (for baro versions also with FusedAlti)

I have made various observations regarding start altitude but also alti change during an activity on a totally flat track, that I can not explain. It would be good to do some improvements here, or let’s say to inform the user by GUI improvements about the status of the watch.

@BrunoH This is great information and good to know. However there’s still problems with the watch that’s preventing me from putting more money into Suunto at this time. I want a to, but now is not that time. Thanks

@bradleyd
Totally agree, for me:
Rise to wake woks only during day but it is not needed and not visible during day. It only consumes battery.
Brightness with every button press and every notification is not needed and undesirable during day and really disturbing during night.
Removing toggle mode (or removing any existing feature of watch after sell to customer) is big step back and deal breaker for me when i will consider new watch.

And in terms of battery consumption, it almost looks like suunto wants to battery die faster so people buy watch more often. Because there is no rational reason to force backlight during day when it has no added value, it just drain battery. And even during some light conditiones i noticed that contrast of screen is worst with backlight.

I will take it to extreme here but when suunto is able to remove toggle mode (for some people important feature), what stops them to remove alarm, date, stepcounter or other feature that they will decide it is not needed in future.

@Francesco-Pagano I’m having similar issues as of v2.20.30, but my S5 Burgundy Copper is already off warranty period (Hardware 0071B4). I’ve already performed (not one but two) factory reset, battery recalibration, uninstall/reinstall app to no avail.
Should I try to get to the dreaded black charge-me screen while aware of having battery left and upon near instant recognition of the watch by Suunto Link send logs?