Hi all,

I am also affected by this same problem. I’ve had Vertical for 1,5 years now and I’ve never seen these “insights”. My Vertical still keeps asking me to record at least one outdoor run. The software is up to date. I’ve been trying with Suunto HR belt and OHR with Vertical on my better wrist.

I was full of hope when the last SW update was supposed to make VO2max to appear “easier” but no such luck. I’d be glad to hear what are the actual minimum conditions that I should meet for this recording to succeed.

I am a 55 years old overweight male with these zones:

Resting HR 65
Z2 133 ->
Z3 142 ->
Z4 152 ->
Z5 161 ->
Max HR 185 (I’ve set this a little bit higher of what I’ve seen in real life)

Below you can find my examples. The first one is a 16 minutes run when I really pushed myself to the limit. You can see that a few times I hade to slow down for a while to catch breath. The second one is a lot longer outdoorsy exercise; I was actually trail walking, but recorded it as a run just to see if there’s any difference.

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Both of these have a solid GPS tracking. On the map I can’t see any sudden spikes deviating from the route I was taking.

@Vertical_Blink
If you already soft reset your watch, if you are seeing green fixed arrow before launching activity, if you see your position on the map during activity, but nothing about GPS track in Suuntoapp after, I can’t help more.
Let’s wait for others.

I had the same issue with ± button not working. Being on track with GPS being running. A restart of the watch solved it for me.

@ChrisA that’s great to hear. I have had a few Garmin watches and they’re fairly good about user feedback as well. If we could get a few new ease-of-use features, I think this will be a perfect fit for me. I liked my Tactix 7 a lot, but it was honestly just too large and clunky. Aesthetically the Vertical is just 👌 👌 👌 . I love it.

@Brad_Olwin Thank you. I didn’t manage to download maps over my mobile. But I must admit that I tried with three maps at once. Maybe that was the point.
I have the assumption, that SV lost the connection to the iPhone very quick again, after it was established (tethering symbol was shown quickly in the Dynamic Island).

Anyway, the download of maps went smoothly at home over my WiFi there.

I think configurate data field(s) are preferred here so everyone can configure it to their needs. Perhaps with some kind if caroussel mode to avoid takeing up too much map space…

During trailrunning, I use the map a lot to follow a route but I have no other metrics in sight. I always have to switch to the next screen and then all the way back to the map which is not very convenient. Especially now the touch sceen functions as pan option in the map instead of switching screens back and forth.

Any news about the suunto app abnormal battery drainage?

Can we hope to have something in future updates of the watch?

Thank you!!

Kek, look that!

Editing post is the must important evolution of 21st century .

@juza77 That seems bizarre as arm movements should not affect GPS readings. Are you absolutely sure the GPS is active? The watch will interpret distance by movement if the GPS is not turned on.

@isazi Hi, any news from Suunto, did you check the reported problem with them? I think it’s easy to reproduce… Thank You

@Lucadag92 I have the same issues when cycling or running. So you are not unique. I agree that this feature should work better. When I was using my Garmin, it was good enough for steady state runs, but not for workouts. I’d hoped for the same level of performance from my Vertical.

I got a little improvement by switching to a Velcro band, but it’s still not great, and I have to use an external HR strap.

@enriqueescoms No

@Matúš thank you!

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos thanks !!

@Elipsus I reported it to Suunto, cannot do much more than this.

@NicDup and one thing that hasn’t been mentioned here is that the algorithm is very sensitive about the HR and GPS data quality. Any glitch will result in the measurement not to be updated.

While running you need to have HR up in certain zones for some 15 minutes or more. I am not providing any specifics because what I heard from Suunto Support is not in line with the field testers’ instructions here in this forum.

I have had Vertical for a year now and I never seen VO2max yet. But it’s just probably me being too fat and unable to run 15 minutes in Z4-Z5… 😞 And up here in north we have worse GPS coverage and we are experiencing radio signal interference from Mordor.

@gone-troppo This is not the normal behavior… I would contact the support

@isazi holding out for the espresso maker controlled from a complication.

@herlas Cheers