@andreas7 if you are looking for an app that advises you that you are disconnected there is one in the play store (old and not recently update but I believe it still works)

If you are asking how to reconnect Brad provided some good suggestions, however have tended to find its my phone that is the issue. On phone long pressing Bluetooth icon in notification/settings bar (or go via settings) I find it shows my watch isn’t connected. I go into the paired but not connected section and click on my Suunto. This takes you into Bluetooth settings for the watch. Clicking on connect button works. If that fails open wear os app on phone, disconnect and then connect again, if necessary also switch watch Bluetooth on and off, if still struggling also try connecting suunto app on phone.

@Brad_Olwin Thanks Brad, I’m confident that Suunto will fix it 🙂

I was just wondering if there was a rough timescale on when an update might come. No worries if not.

@aleksander-h
Getting music on the watch may not as be hard as your think.

Coros has offline music, Fitbit sense has offline music - it shouldn’t be hard to add harddrive and and an app to play your own music content. So that should be pretty easily available to all watches. Streaming subscription services - big issue here is what deals have been made. In the past Spotify was in a locked contract with Garmin and Samsung (which is why not even Apple Watch had spotify) - however since the Google Samsung deal with wear os the contract lock with Spotify has changed, as all wear os watches and even Apple Watch now has it. This suggests that all manufacturers should be able to get a Spotify app now - that lock that Samsung had on it has gone. So manufacturers need to step up their game. What about other streaming services - Apple locks theirs, but what about Pandora & Deezer (both are on fitbit, and deezer is also on Garmin); and then there is also Amazon music (which is loads better than it used to be - would say as good as Spotify now in regards to their content - and this is on Garmin); and then you have YTM now, which I suspect Google would be happy for everyone to use…

To me if you don’t have at least own music, you aren’t trying, as the at is the min, if you can’t get a subscription service.

@freeheeler
Merci pour toutes ces réponses qui mon bien aidées👍

This is a very common issue and design flaw with the Suunto 7’s. Many people have this issue. I’ve gone thru 4 S7’s (2 purchased, 2 RMA’s on one unit) and they all eventually have this issue. Clean the baro hole with a baby toothbrush (ultra-soft-bristle) and warm running water. If that doesnt fix it, leave it in the fridge overnight with it powered off to wick any moisture out of the hole.

Good test: record an activity on your window sill after getting good GPS lock. If it stays 0/0m asc/desc, you’re good to go until the next time this happens.

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Great choice! Waiting for 1+ to arrive later in the week. You used to buy a sports watch. Now you buy a sports watch (well, a sporty smartwatch) and then you have to buy a phone to go with it 😰

@kripar It is, but there is a pretty simple workaround. I believe there is a fix for this coming in the next update (which should be soon, fingers crossed!)

1 - go into the watch settings and disable ‘power saver tilt’
2 - immediately restart the watch
3 - check to make sure ‘power saver tilt’ is off
4 - in the WearOS app on your phone, make sure to toggle off both setting under silence phone when wearing watch

there are a few other combinations that apparently work, but this is the option i tried and it has worked for me.

@isazi @Sascha-Domres iOS!

@nigel-taylor-0 To follow up on this…

I have a reasonably nice workaround when want to get my Stryd power data into an activity, but don’t necessarily need to SEE the power numbers live whilst running (just to keep building the history etc).
A)

Run with Suunto App…wear the Stryd, do an Offline Sync with the Stryd App. Export the resultant FIT from Stryd. Get your GPS/Heartrate etc data into GoldenCheetah (I auto sync from Suunto App to TrainingPeaks and then have GoldenCheetah sync from TraningPeaks when I open it). In Golden Cheetah, select the activity, and then select “COMBINE” activity - combine the activity with the exported FIT from Stryd - use options “Merge Data to Add Another Data Series” and align using start time. In GoldenCheetah you now have GPS/HeartRate AND Stryd data combined…but the activity will have buffers at start and end because your Stryd woke up and finished before and after what you’d consider your actual run…so… In GoldenCheetah now select to SPLIT the activity - in the first column tick the start of the first lap, and in the second column tick the end of the final lap, and split, and you should be left with an activity that only contains the period you recorded with the Suunto App. Export this FIT file - delete the entry from Stryd (and TrainingPeaks) and you can upload the new combined and split file onto those platforms and on to wherever you do your analysing.

B)
If you want to SEE your power data on watch screen whilst running…(but perhaps have a hit on S7 battery life because of the Bluetooth connection to Stryd)…then…

Use SportyGo or GhostRacer (I prefer GhostRacer, I find the SportyGo UI just too whacky to understand). TODAY - if you’re running, GhostRacer doesn’t export the power data inside the TCX files it exports, so you’d have to do a triple-jump fiddle about similar to the steps as listed in A above to offline sync, combine and trim to get a good activity…but… TOMORROW - the developer of GhostRacer has told me he’ll put out an update so that power data is collected and exported for running activities (apparently it works already today for cycling activity).

So I’ll prob wait for that update and do a battery test of GhostRacer with Stryd at the weekend. I can still get my activity into the Suunto App ecosystem this way via RunGap…so I end up with complete data sources no matter if I use Suunto on watch or Ghost Racer, so all good.

Of course, I’d PREFER to use Suunto, the whole feel of that app is the best of all running interfaces for me, and thats before you throw in the navigation.

But - having resigned myself to having to forget power based running with the move to S7 (something I was prepared for - despite being a total data nerd, I’m a lot less serious/engaged with my running now than I was prior to March 2020), it now feels like I don’t have to forego it after all 🙂

@jamie-bg All clear! thanks.

@egika and that is exactly what mine was doing. Have since pushed it up a bit based on my 24/7HR graphing and my recovery is now making much more sense.

Based it on the phone apps sleep chart, put in HR against it. Wasn’t overly that much different to initial rate but has made a difference.

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos @pilleus Thanks to both!, yes, exactly. Today after I read the message from @pilleus I reconnected Google Fit from Suunto Wear app and few minutes later I signed out again, problem solved 🙂 no more notifications. Thanks!

@isazi Thank you for the info, I understand how it is meant to work better now.

@egika said in GPS on/off:

Most likely this feature was sacrificed for other more important ones due to the target audience of this model, which is not the mountaineer nut more the casual urban sports person.

I’m pretty sure the urban dude would benefit from these features 😛

@mcsolaar I have gone through this Body resources exercise extensively and my conclusion is after a while wearing the watch religiously over night and day it will work out the good body resources better.

Also, I noticed that after a full restore to the watch it yielded to a better tracking.

Let me explain, I went on a holiday and I used this period as a monitoring phase of my stress level and body resources. My findings are:

Being active all day long and feeling shuttered by 7pm resulted in 1.5 hours of stress whilst working from home resulted in 6/7 hours stress this does impact your body resources throughout the day massively. Night time, despite finishing my day close to 20% body resources, a good night sleep resulted in a high HRV, indeed this explains why my recovery overnight was high.

My take on body resources is if the watch is worn snug enough and measuring HR accurately it will produce accurate data.

What’s would be beneficial is for Suunto to include a new tab in the Suunto app to display HRV reading plotted in to a graph over a 24h period. The information is translated to body resources metrics but one could argue that seeing the number of variability is better then just a an interpretation.

The Apple watch offer a breathe app that allow you to take an instant HRV reading.

@BinoWorld-UK
The S7 first beat sleep tracking is approx 2 years old now, and is the very original version, so am not quite sure what is used and how.
Can advise that the latest first beat sleep tracking (per Garmin watches) uses HRV to determine Body Battery (Resources for Suunto); but your sleep score is based off Duration, HRV, Restlessness/awake, HR (mainly around Deep stage - seems less impact on Light and REM which is probably just as well as it struggles to differentiate between the two which isn’t surprising).

@zvonejan said in Suunto 7: Missed things:

Are you sure?

I was not clear enough, sorry.

S7 can do native the same without smartphone as Locus with companion app and smartphone. It does the same already in the map screen of the running activity. Showing a line/track on the offline map.

No need for Locus on the S7. If there would be the choice to use a gpx file in the S7 Suunto App.

This is what I wanted to say.

@NickK Interesting observations with playback! When I start out it is bad and gets much better. I don’t know if this is interference or some other problem. For the first 0.5km I get a lot of dropouts and then stabilizes and is great. I am using AirPods Pro for my earphones.

@Egika Mine sometimes does not update when I swipe down, but if I scroll to the forecasts it updates automatically and I see current weather. Also as Dimi mentioned I am running a different firmware than you are, that might have something to do with it as well. Santa is coming as Dimi said.

@kripar
Same situation occurs with swimming. Swimming with breast stroke gives a stable and accurate HR. Crawl and butterfly stroke makes the HR go down, so usually at the end of 100m crawl screen shows me 70 pulse instead of 150-160. And only after a minute or so HR starts to go up.
I prefer to swim with breast stroke now to control ny HR zones))