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@karmazynowycukiereczek said in Disappointing launch:

@Egika Do you have any information about what it will contain? Because I don’t know whether to wait or sell Race?

I cannot tell you if the coming changes and fixes will change things for you.
If you are not happy at all with your Race today, I think you better sell it and check an alternative for you.
If you follow-up the coming updates you can then re-think your decision.

@cosme-costa I have a very similar view as you do. And like you say for some people a smartwatch would be a better option and I don’t get why they don’t buy one and buy an outdoor watch instead.
It’s only my opinion but I suppose it is because it looks cool to have an outdoor watch. And then those people complain that the display is not so bright (red is not red on an MIP display etc) and steps are not counted perfectly and so on. I get it’s good for Suunto that there are people like this. But at same time - buy what you need. For many people the Apple watch is the best option available if you are not into sports that much.

@GiPFELKiND
…what @surfboomerang and @Brad_Olwin said 🙂 👍

I think you are in the forum long enough to know this 🙂

@Theo-Lakerveld said in Software update 2.30.32:

According to my opinion, the S9P is WAY MORE beautiful. I really like the S9P design. I also think the SSU that I used before the S9P was nicer. But that’s irrelevant and subjective.

I agree it is subjective, and I also agree with your „ranking“. The SSU, S9B Ti, S9P and S9PP had much cleaner looks than their successors SV and SR. I am probably very picky, I already did not like the bezel of the S9B non-Ti, so I don’t find it irrelevant 😊. I know Suunto cannot please everyone but I’m surprised how the latest models look, and I hope there will be cleaner models again. It would be nice to have a chat with the Suunto Design department, just out of curiosity.

@EzioAuditore yes, that is strange.

@Mff73 yes i did

Hi @all!

I just want to give a little feedback after a while.

I was out on several longer mountaineering trips during the last weeks. The missing breadcrumb issue is solved imho.

Thank you very much for fixing this, suunto vertical now was a perfect companion for all my trips and a worthy successor of my ambit peak 3. I can recommend it to everybody who is looking for a watch for mountaineering.

Even one of my team mates noticed that the display works super good in bright sunlight. So I am super happy with it.

If you use full gps and the map display most of the time ( which I usually do), battery lasts for about 25 hrs. So you can do one longer tour of 12-15 hrs + your way to the mountain hut the day before. If you want to do more trips in a row, it’s better to have the possibility to recharge (I have the non-solar version).

But hey, that’s totally OK for me and I am happy that vertical now covers most of my needs. It is a good and powerful tool for mountaineering after the issues, I had with it during the first months of use, are now sorted out.

So have fun with it! 😊

Let me help on some decisions .

Previously Vo2max was calculated via FirstBeat license. Thats no longer the case already with Race. Its Suunto own algo. As you already know Race has some new features such as Race estimations and sleep stages. Those come from some licenses with other providers. Suunto atm is at the stage that is developing / evaluating all in house (or at least wants to).

So, its a matter of internal (and external fieldtesting, public surveys) evaluation. So to give an example:

Suunto has developed Running marathon estimations. They work well. They benchmark those against FB , GoMore and other providers. If the result is good they will flip the switch to their own. Thats a no brainer. But when they want to release a model with those features, ie the Race , on launch they can go with whatever provider works better and pay the price to them (per unit usually).

You as users / consumers should keep in mind that Suunto is trying to provide a good solution to increase the consumer satisfaction based on factors such as launch timing, license expiration etc.

To be specific on the following update for the Vertical for example, the resources will be own algo. Same most probably is for running stats estimations (marathon time etc). That means that Suunto will have 2 different algos out there (2 watches with different algos ) and at some point 1 of the 2 algos will align to the best result.

To be honest the running time estimations (marathon etc) work better for me on the tests with SV with the Suunto in house algos than to what Race is using. That doesn’t mean it works better for all.

Bottomline, things will get aligned , but needs time.

I have been wearing watches (suunto race) for a week 24/7 - haven’t seen anything like sleep tracking as such. (I already reset watches because after recent software update because, all hr and bo sensors stopped working), now - no sleep tracking.
HR sensors shows 45-50 in the morning, however no sleep tracking, I have default rest HR settings, sleep tracking on, dnd of.

@Sebastian-Wagner-0 said in TSB in Watch Screen Not actually like in app:

@herlas
thx for your explanation.
what is interval ICU?

https://intervals.icu/

@kbilel I send the watch last week from Fr, they replaced my device with a replacement unit and send it, i have it today,
A realy nice service, thanks suunto

@David-l said in Proposal to change UI for Suunto Race:

I’d really like the ability to turn off vibration alert for notifications but still have it on for laps whilst in sport mode. Oh and be able to read the screen with just 2 data fields please 🙏

seconding this: having the vibration on in sports mode is very useful, as when you train in quite noisy environments it’s quite difficult hearing beeps…
It could be also useful having the possibility to change (most of the time: increase) the volume of sound alerts during sport modes.

This aged badly. 25min later putting the watch back on doesn’t start the HR sensor.

Toggling power saving On and back Off brings it back to life.

Software seems trigger happy to power save, yet not recognise when watch is back on… despite using the watch (crown, buttons etc.) and having skin contact.

Can only hope 2.35.34 is followed up with a bug fix in August…

@novum_tf The same issue in my case. Summary shows 0m distance both on the watch and in the app while intervals are shown correctly. It is so annoying.

What’s bluetooth version in Sunto Race?

@freeheeler I agree. Buy the way. I remembered that it works when using in walking or cycling but not the running mode. All modes where custome modes.

Debating between all black and Race S all black while I enjoy my SV Ti. It’s like I find the Race S a bit better but I know I’ll need a bigger format. Both watches have the same price these days here.

Btw, I’m wearing now my old F6X Pro Sapphire Solar, that weights 82g with the 26mm strap (just to feel the weight).
I had weared that watch for about 5 years, done many ultras and It still feels perfect. The Race weights 83g and it’s smaller than the F6X. Then I don’t like at all the Race Titanium model (Titanium does look very good in the SV though). Thinking in the everyday use, where you need to like the watch, I find steel the good choice.

@Sebastian-Wagner-0 you may want to contact support, I have not had this happen except once when the HR did not record even though it was set on. Are you getting HR recorded and just no HRV? I see yes, I would contact support,