I set the calibration factor on the Apple Watch based on around 15 outdoor runs using an average of the difference in distance reported by Stryd vs the Strava corrected distance. This calibration factor was 1.017. I have since run with the Stryd and Apple Watch, and the Suunto with the Stryd paired as both a food pod with “auto-calibrate” turned on, and with it paired as a power pod.
Several days ago I unpaired the Stryd from the Suunto completely then re-paired as a foot pod and ran on the treadmill. What I found strange was the pace and distance reported by the Suunto/Stryd combination was directly in-line with what has been reported with the Apple/Stryd combination after setting the calibration factor. I have run with Stryd for several years on and off, and since I have five kids a load of that running has been on the treadmill in our basement. And since I am obsessive by nature, I am very aware of how far off the Stryd typically is uncalibrated when I run at my easy pace compared to what the treadmill is reporting.
I posted a question on the Stryd Facebook group asking them if the calibration factor was actually stored on the food pod, not the Apple Watch. They did not approve my question! They requested I email support instead. Support just replied saying the calibration factor is stored on the Apple Watch and I should make sure my Suunto watch isn’t doing something funky. But…I am not sure I believe them. I plan to run again tonight on the treadmill and see.
@running-L It does sound like you may have a hardware issue, I have two S9s and they both fix very fast and rarely (I cannot remember the last time) lose a GPS fix during an exercise. It is possible when in areas that are difficult for GPS (deep canyon for instance). But, I did not get a GPS error when running a race early in March where there was a slot canyon. I would start a support ticket.
Well, I guess that we could debate about it till end of the days. Runalyze vs Firstbeat (Suunto) and we’ll never come to any conclusion. RA and FB calculation will never meet, just because both are using different algorithm and none of them is able to handle intervals and trails run in correct way. Not even GAP.
As was mentioned here here already (and many times before) real value can be measured in lab only.
Well, so you can go, let measure your real VO2max value in lab, and the set a correction factor in RA. Of course, do not forget to remove all interval or trail runs from calculation (in RA). Keep calculation for races (single race runs, not multisport races) and steady runs. Then one should be able to keep track on nearly real VO2 max. That is for Runalyze (RA).
For Suunto calculation, it is just not possible (afaik) to exclude specific run from calculation…
Oh yes, and please keep in mind that effective VO2max in RunAnalyze is calculated from VO2max and running efficiency. So, here is another factor in game telling us that you just cannot simply compare values from Runalyze and from Suunto. They are just not the same…
Yes - I believe that is the case. I was always able to do this before, but recently had to do a reset and then when I tried to build a custom mode again without wrist HR, I was not able to do so.
The good thing is that I can now push the 17 button sequence every run now without looking at my watch from memory! 😉
Just a hint: As I have seen or read other posts, mostly spo2 is just to see weather you are getting sick (I am that type with a bit astma and currently is winter time with Snow, so I am expecting some problems 🙂 ) and also might help to detect sleeping apnea (you can realize if you are snoring) if this all day/sleep time monitoring is applied.
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I will now proceed as you suggested !
It was with the default “trailrunning” profile of the watch, and further tests I did just now have the same result. What I tested:
Start Navigation in options, then interval after the start of the activity
Start Interval in options, then navigation after the start of the activity
Star nothing in option, start on, then the other after the start of the activity
One random test in running default mode
One random test with MTB default mode
Sooooo, I conclude that…well I was right at my first post !
Well, that could be a feature idea for Suunto developers haha 🙂
no I don’t play golf and while I normally say “never say never” you can believe me, I will never ever play golf and I’ve got reasons that I don’t want to put in here 😉
BUT(!), as you use your watch for golfing, it’s not what a golf watch would actually do. I know from a friend of mine who does play golf, and who I really do not envy for this, that there’s a garmin watch available only made for golf… obviously it does not only count strokes and times for each strokes, but also analyzes your motion and efficiency and if you’re holding and swinging that club how it’s supposed to…
but well… while I think everyone should do what he likes, I really respect what everyone does, but golf is nothing for me, really 😂
I know that watch, and I think this is total overkill - hence why I am looking for a pragmatic golf mode. Maybe that could convince you one day to play? 😊 No, jokes apart, everyone has its reasons to like or dislike, and welcome to diversity! 👍
@tyresej4 sorry for the late answer (lots of work at the moment):
The Fenix 6 featurewise is a great Watch, because it virtually has everything you could ask for and if not, you usually find it in the connect IQ shop and just install it… but I found that it just has too many features and you easily get completely lost in it. There are menues in menues in menues … and it doesn’t give you a lot of help in how to use all that data you get from it. It really needs a lot of effort to use it to its purpose and I found it too much for my needs. I still have it since I got it quite cheap and sometimes I use it along my Suunto 5 🙂