@Adrian.S I totally agree, I also train using both scale when I was using garmin (that allow RPE and feeling) and it was super usefull. I could have a hill session with RPE 7-8 and a great feeling at the end because i m exhausted but feel “good” and manage to achieve the excercice properly. while I could have a long run with a RPE of 5 and bad feeling at the end (8while it was supposed to be a s 3-4) RPE is a really nice scale when you know you body and your feeling well enough to use it. it should be optional like the smiley face are, and per sport activation based) Some platform (like nolio) are able to grab RPE and use it in a foster scale you can see your training load. For me RPE is by far the best scale to quantify the load as it match my perception, hope we could have it on Suunto watches as I miss it

@sky-runner and also having zones defined in the app will allow to properly import externals workouts with proper intensity.

@aiv4r To echo this, I recall a day when I first got a competitor’s watch with its “all day stress score”, and over time learning that viewing the realtime readout literally stressed me out, so it worked against my body’s need to cut loose from a bunch of tech saying I was dying when I wasnt… And, someone told me when I first started running: time, distance, and on road at least, pace. All the other stuff gets in the way of learning to (and I quote) “run by feel.” This thread is honestly an extension of that same mindset…and why I’m loving being back with a Suunto on my wrist. I haven’t done it yet but…I’m looking forward to the day I record a run with the app for the “credit” of distance, but nothing on my wrist at all. But that’s veering off topic All that to say, the AI coach does the trick if we want it, and quantifying a “score” or advice we should be getting by feel is, I agree, going a bit out of scope for a sports watch…

Upcoming races/events = special kind of planned sessions…

@elbee Yes, I think you’re right. The main use case should probably be simple route generation based on distance, surface type, elevation and current location, especially for travelling or discovering new areas. Workout structure could just be an optional extra, not the core of the feature.

@aiv4r Janne made the point in the video you could use this in preparation of a race or so. How fast will it go down and such. But I think until you use the calendar to plan activities - what currently only can be done with the My Plan feature - it is mostly useless. There should be a way to disable this.

@dreamer_ You could use manual laps and press the lap button at every waypoint (or whatever point you want). There is an average lap pace datafield.

@MarckF I’m not joking. I only have the 2, but, if I had a 3, I’d be all over it.

@Egika Ah gotcha, my bad. Must have been short of caffeine when I replied!

@sartoric ok grazie mille per il chiarimento ma non sapevo dove lanciare questa idea x migliorare ulteriormente i nostri grandi orologi!!

Just chiming in to support editing of sleep times. I am on a sleep restriction scheme (for medical reasons) and need to track sleep/awake times. I just bought a Race S to replace a Garmin and was surprised it’s not possible to edit, as both watches will sometimes incorrectly register my last hour before sleep as sleep.

Even more so, no modern device will give you the ability to really deplete or really charge your battery. The 0% and 100% margins are not the actual battery 0% and 100%. So this control, although it might help in some cases, is more or less a dummy to give people control about something. It is more of a psychologic thing.

@Squirrel I think that it a bit overshoot for sports watch. Where should be the line? Maybe I want calorie tracker, food tracker or maybe full blown reminders functionality.

@Egika for 2. - thanks for dismissing me, but the point you’re making is for what suits you ok, thanks, makes sense

@Horizontal_2 Daily usage averages 10% per day. Everything is on except for exercise.