@Mitch9 ok, now I see. Just replied to sigmart.

@Elipsus let’s make a sports watch with dimensions of a PipBoy. Also, blood pressure monitoring, coffee maker and a camera.

@JD-Harvey I agree. I understand that a lot of people may like the new notification messages but I also find them really annoying. If somebody in the Suunto team would find the time to put an “OFF” switch for that I would be eternally grateful.

public routes. on garmin i basically never need to manually create a route as it just shows all the ones created by the community. running somewhere new? just scroll around your current location and there will be dozens of routes. got a race coming up? just pan to the start line on the map someone will already have made a route. 5 buttons. the crown sucks. having 5 buttons is apparently what’s needed so that you can have a consistent start/pause button, and generally consistent UX experience. i don’t want to look at my watch mid-activity, or have to fiddle with a little scrolling button - i want to be able to blind press buttons because i know they have a dedicated function. unit customization. on garmin i can use metric for speed, imperial for distance, centigrade for temp, or any combination, all customizable per activity and whatever else. on suunto if i wanted to use centigrade i had to use KM, and system-wide. synced notifications. on garmin if you ‘clear’ a notification, it’s also cleared from your phone. on suunto, the two are not synced so you see the same notifications twice (this is on iOS. don’t know about android) respect focus mode on iOS. if my phone is in sleep/DND mode, garmin respects that and hides notifications that the phone is hiding. we shouldn’t have to configure DND modes etc on our watches if our phone is already handling that. road/POI names on map. no excuses now AMOLED so prevalent on the range. call recovery metrics what they are. no TSS/CTL/DOA whatever. these mean something to some people, and maybe there can be a “PhD mode” that keep these abbreviations for those guys , but for everyone else just use intuitive names for things like garmin (mostly) does. the same with the weird way some stats on suunto reset every week rather than just give you a rolling number. again, some people like this stuff, but as someone new to the ecosystem it felt like something i had to ‘learn’ where with garmin it was always intuitive, or explained within the watch’s tool tips.

@Mff73 said in TbT notifications depending on sport profile.: Something = time ? X seconds before turn. I thought some constant - number. But OK, counted time to turn will be best

Any plans on this ever being implemented? It happen to me a few times as well now. The old computer software for my bike computer from 2009 already had this feature, so it can’t be that hard to do in 2025?

@cheetah694 Hm, maybe I am just performing below my limits. I will work on it

@lesch1 took me awhile to find it when the testers got the updated app:)

Hi, I would like to have it, too! Its needed for multi day activities which runners only maybe dont understand… Regards, Marko

Come on Suunto, this would be an easy win and greatly appreciated by many.

@VoiGAS I already tried it, but it still didn’t work.

Yesterday, I had the opportunity to use Karoo 3 on the road after switching from Garmin 830. I share the observations: easy to use, without thousands of unnecessary options, fast operation, quick integration with the light, power measurement, heart rate strap, and good integration with Suunto (I train running and use Vertical) except for one parameter - calories are not imported to Suunto from Karoo. In Garmin, this integration was at a lower level, but this may be the fault of Suunto’s developers. [image: 1759139742734-pxl_20250928_133349851.jpg] [image: 1759139757341-pxl_20250928_120759494.jpg] [image: 1759139777186-pxl_20250928_120751983.jpg] Cool display, even at 0% brightness it is visible, no need to turn it up to 100% as some reviews suggest. I had auto-battery saving turned off - the display was on for exactly 3 hours, the battery dropped from 100 to 77%. So, very good for my rides. Karoo definitely gets a plus for the speed of the system, maps, notifications (e.g., about no entry), and easy entry point from Garmin to the new service despite the lack of Polish language support. On the downside, or in need of calibration, the Climb option was a little slow to detect elevation, e.g., the road was already flattening out, but the display still showed the end of the climb. I had a similar experience with Garmin, so maybe it’s a matter of GPS accuracy and location refresh rate.

@Alpha-156.42 Are you saying they had Garmin devices, purchased Suuntos, and are now buying new Garmin devices? That’s gonna cost some serious $$$ (or €€€ or whatever). Especially if it’s any of the new Garmins. It’s probably just a case of preferring what you’re used to. Like others, I’ve tried all the main brands (Suunto, Garmin, Polar, Coros, Apple) and prefer Suunto for the simplicity of the software and the watches themselves. I will say that if you like complete control of your data, Garmin may have the edge as they have a robust mobile and web-based platform. You can also live life with a Garmin and never connect it to a phone, instead using a physical cable connection to a computer or syncing via wi-fi (something I appreciate). But saying that Garmin is less complicated? That doesn’t sound right.