@Bastienhere On premium version (130 dollA) not the standard one, and maybe it’s coated

@far-blue something similar happened to me when starting a workout a few days ago. Started the watch, then it soft reset by itself, then showed 4 messages incoming, which I confirmed and then it soft resets itself another time. Ended with device reseting itself to safe state. https://forum.suunto.com/post/159812 Had no problems ever since though.

@Bernard-P I thought it might be hardware! Sorry.

@Fred-Eric I don’t know the answer to your question but turn by turn directions also work with routes created in Kamoot.

The bug with the HR graph is still present in the latest firmware. Interestingly enough, the first first time when I used the watch after the update, it worked correctly, but then the bug resumed. Furthermore, there is another bug that I’ve noticed. When a next turn notification pops up when I am right at the previous turn, if I dismiss that notification manually, it pops up again right away. Yesterday, I ended up dismissing the same turn notification 4 times in a row until I moved enough for it to stop popping up. That is a minor issue, but an issue nevertheless. Furthermore, there is one more annoying issue: [image: 1735508518288-pxl_20241228_232518248.jpg] If go on the same path more then once, then the light blue direction arrows end up being rendered behind the red breadcrumbs track, which makes it very difficult to see. In this particular case the path that I needed to take was obvious, but I experienced other cases when I come from one path on the way out and need to take another path on the way back. In the latter case it becomes difficult to distinguish between the dark blue route and the light blue direction array when they both are rendered behind the red breadcrumbs track. It would be better to change the Z-order so that the light blue arrows are always on top of everything. In other words the order should be the following: the dark blue route on the back, the red track is above the route, and the the light blue arrows are on top of everything. Finally there is one more issue, that is perhaps not a bug, but something that I initially thought was a bug. I was wearing a long sleeve jacket that covered the watch. On 3 different occasions when I looked at the map, it appeared off-center and not oriented correctly, which made me wonder what was going on. Finally I realized that perhaps the wet sleeve was touching the watch and made it pan the map. What would be the best way to avoid it. Should I change the touch mode so that it only wakes up the display and not the watch? In that case, how can I pan the map? Should I press some button first?

@whiplash you can customise the fields on the watch face. After watch face it’s active go into control panel - customise then complications. You can also swap watch faces from the same menu.

My Vertical was 3,5-4% a day, after this “famous uptate” around 5%. Now after last update seems back to 3,5-4%.

@Jeffrey-Tillack Suunto has a wonderful Courtney Dawaulter edition of the Race S!

@sky-runner said in Turn notifications are confusing, borderline misleading: That information should be displayed at the bottom of the map instead. as of the current aoftware release, the information is displayed at the bottom tooth for TBT mode in every sceeen - at least when I was using it. Notification at the turn is still for the next turn obviously. So half the issue you have is gone, but one part still remains.

@lessthanmore May have been a mistake, don’t worry about it, easy to hit the wrong caret.

@GiPFELKiND are your last comments of any help to anyone ?

@Stephen-Kenny I’ve begun week four with a RaceS plus Polar H10 (old pod, new strap). No experience of cycling but the Run activities line up quite nicely between watch and app. I don’t carry a phone/camera with me so had to memorize the numbers today: 1 hour 8 minutes run, Watch 53-something minutes Aerobic, 4m53s Anaerobic; SA 51m40s Aerobic, 5m13s Anaerobic. And the SA graph of the ZS Anaerobic peaks corresponds with when I saw the crossover on the watch. Obviously people have different hardware when it comes to HR belts/straps but I wonder if we also differ in the DDFA algo ‘affinity’ to our personal HRV system. Perhaps some people fall way outside of the model norm?

@Brad_Olwin I think you’re right. I also doubt many people are that bothered by it, it’s quite a niche thing. It’s just really useful for hitting specific paces on a track, for example, ave lap pace is super useful for this sort of thing.

@sracer agree. My biggest annoyance after the charger, which thankfully you don’t need very often is the lack of font sizes. I think I can only give one watch face with seconds on it I can read without glasses ‍️ Do love the vertical, had it over a year now and it has been my companion for many hours and miles but wish they would consider older folk with font size‍️

@Egika said in Race S Tempting Me Back Into Suunto...: @VoiGAS yes, he was referring to battery saving mode. Back in Ambit times, the low power GPS indeed was not really accurate. You could select between 1s, 5s and 60s fix rate. Yes, it was the 5s mode. Down in the canyons it started to glitch measuring the distance really long and by the end of the race it was doubling the distance, consistently adding 0.01 mile for every 10 steps. Somehow it ended up adding distance from GPS and distance from accelerometer together, which resulted in doubling the distance. Ambit wasn’t as accurate as people think. Yes, at the time it was one of the most accurate watches - thanks to its large GPS antenna. But recently I compared an Ambit 3 Peak track from some years ago against a recent track from Garmin Fenix 7X recorded with multi-band mode. The difference was like day and night - Garmin with dual band was so much more accurate around curves and switchbacks following the trail perfectly. I also think that the Airoha GNSS chipset that was used in Fenix 7 is more accurate than the new Sony chipset used in Race S. The distance is similar, in fact Suunto Race S distance tends to be a tiny bit longer, but Garmin’s track seems to be more precise. Unfortunately Garmin seems to have switched to the new Sony chipset too.

@lessthanmore interesting, So even the titanium version has the same ‘issue’! Definitely not ideal… I hope Suunto knows about this one.