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    • Mff73M Offline
      Mff73 @Guest
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      @André-Faria
      maybe with charging during activity

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      • Cédric DodrimontC Offline
        Cédric Dodrimont @isazi
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        @isazi Thanks for your feedback, anything I can do to analyze what happened ?
        The Vertical was configured in performance mode with OHR turned on. Recording stopped after 50 hours.

        Ambit 2
        Suunto 9 Baro
        Suunto Vertical

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        • Mff73M Offline
          Mff73 @Cédric Dodrimont
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          @Cédric-Dodrimont
          Did you export the fit file for this activity and checked it (for example with https://www.fitfileviewer.com/ ) and see if, by any chance, exported activity contains full track points (meaning data are well stored somewhere at Suunto, but not fully displayed in app) ?

          If you have an Android phone, and will little geek skills ( 🙂 instructions here ) you can try to find the raw data file for this activity, and be able also to check if, data send by watch to app, at that time, was complete.

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          Suunto Vertical all black
          Wife : S9PP
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          • Peter TönzP Offline
            Peter Tönz @Mff73
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            @Mff73 I checked the file samples.json from the suunto app. And in this file, the last sample has the timestamp of the ending track. Also the distance for this sample is valid.
            There is also no problem with the app. It seems the watch has stoppt recording the track! 😬
            Except the summary values, showed on the display, are recorded until the end.
            I would expect a warning from a (not cheap) watch, when the memory goes out!

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            • Mff73M Offline
              Mff73 @Peter Tönz
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              @Peter-Tönz
              Not nice 😔

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              Wife : S9PP
              SA: Always the latest beta :)
              Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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              • Peter TönzP Offline
                Peter Tönz @Mff73
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                @Mff73 I use always the best GPS Quality (no data are better than unusable data 😉) and therefore, every one second a trackpoint is stored.
                Is it possible to use the best possible GPS quality but onls every 10 seconds or so?
                Thats enough for such long adventures and extends the possible ‘track-time’ by the factor 10!
                (I mean that option was available for the Ambit 3 Baro)

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                • freeheelerF Offline
                  freeheeler @Peter Tönz
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                  @Peter-Tönz
                  I recall GPS was the only system available of all GNSS systems with Ambit and battery life “best, good, ok” was controlled by sample rate 1sec, 5sec or 60sec.
                  I have recently tried ultra mode and was very surprised about precision. honestly never tried it before. maybe give this a try? … don’t wait until the next Eiger Ultra 😉

                  by the way: congrats to all you Eiger Ultra runners! awesome effort! I admire your running capabilities!!

                  living sideways

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                  • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                    Łukasz Szmigiel @freeheeler
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                    @freeheeler all GNSS modes in 9PP and Vertical have a 1s fix except for tour mode, which won’t be useful for a run.

                    S9PP 2.40.38

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                    • Cédric DodrimontC Offline
                      Cédric Dodrimont @freeheeler
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                      @freeheeler On Ambit, there were settings to configure recording rate and recording interval on movescount
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                      It would be good if Suunto can provide us with a table with an estimation of max recording time depending on the different battery mode.

                      By the way, I don’t have the complete GPS trace on suuntoapp, but during the Eiger race, the watch was perfect. Data were accurate, the navigation was perfect, battery was awesome.

                      Ambit 2
                      Suunto 9 Baro
                      Suunto Vertical

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                      • BrunoHB Offline
                        BrunoH Gold Members @Cédric Dodrimont
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                        @Cédric-Dodrimont said in End of GPS trace missing:

                        It would be good if Suunto can provide us with a table with an estimation of max recording time depending on the different battery mode.

                        Exactly. It is awesome to have a battery life this long, but there should be guidelines regarding other limitations. Or alternatively Suunto to fix the implementation so that ultra long activities can be handled in the watch and in SA.

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                          Likarnik Bronze Member @BrunoH
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                          @BrunoH this is a must, especially because this is their mainly selling point (and tbh only thing that stands out).

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                            dombo Bronze Member @zhang965
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                            @zhang965 I see you receive some downvotes. I don’t want to enter any personal here, even I had similar experience regarding crashing of my new vertical. As I’m coming from IT/technical environment I know that if something didn’t happened to me it does not mean it can not happened to somebody else. I learned, that even developers and testers did perfect job, it is still possible that some user will find workflow when it fails or simply does not work. Probably it would be enough just to update attitude here. …and fix bugs as soon as possible.

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                            • isaziI Offline
                              isazi Moderator
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                              People at Suunto are aware of this discussion, and there is an ongoing investigation.

                              Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                              Blog: isazi's home

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                              • zhang965Z Offline
                                zhang965 @dombo
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                                @dombo said in End of GPS trace missing:

                                @zhang965 I see you receive some downvotes. I don’t want to enter any personal here, even I had similar experience regarding crashing of my new vertical. As I’m coming from IT/technical environment I know that if something didn’t happened to me it does not mean it can not happened to somebody else. I learned, that even developers and testers did perfect job, it is still possible that some user will find workflow when it fails or simply does not work. Probably it would be enough just to update attitude here. …and fix bugs as soon as possible.

                                Dear Dombo,

                                It’s totally fine to get downvotes, we have many many elephants in the room, and… welcome to suunto community forum!

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                                  Antoine Bronze Member @Cédric Dodrimont
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                                  @Cédric-Dodrimont ok. I understand why i had this kind of problem on a 100 miles (more than 40h). Now it seens resolved with last update.

                                  Watch: Suunto vertical solar

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                                  • Peter TönzP Offline
                                    Peter Tönz @Antoine
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                                    @Antoine I heard about issues to sync long runs… A collegue of mine runs the Swisspeaks 360 last september and recorded the full 360km and 111 hours in one track.
                                    After that he couln’t sync it with the app! 😬

                                    I plan to run for almost two weeks next summer. I will test some long tracks before the big event and will see wether I can track it in one piece (or split it up like with the Sunnto 9 Baro)

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                                    • AntoineA Offline
                                      Antoine Bronze Member @Peter Tönz
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                                      @Peter-Tönz i have also “big event” next summer. Keep us informed after long run if the problem is solved. Thanks !

                                      Watch: Suunto vertical solar

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                                      • isaziI Offline
                                        isazi Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Solved with last update, some people already used it to run a 100 miles.

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                                          wesk2a @isazi
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                                          @isazi I’ve repeatedly experienced something similar on the watch itself (with the latest firmware): For instance, today I did a 15k / 7h hours loop (non-stop tracking including breaks, i.e., without auto-pause) and initially I could see my previous track on the map just fine. But when returning to the origin, the initial part of the track was missing on the watch. This means that it would have been impossible to navigate back to the origin, which really is a total no-go to me (what can I use the watch for in an emergency if it cannot even guide me back?). Has anyone experienced this, too (and / or knows solutions to this issue)?

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                                          • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                            Brad_Olwin Moderator @Peter Tönz
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                                            @Peter-Tönz @Antoine As @isazi stated this issue is fixed.

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