End of GPS trace missing

[Cédric Dodrimont]

Hi there,

I’ve run the Eiger 250 this weekend, the route was not marked so the Suunto vertical was really a must have!

Just a question, I have synced my watch to suunto app, but half of the GPS track is missing (163km instead of 266) , all other data are correct.
Is it possible to retrieve it? Or at least to understand what happened?

Normally, it should be a loop.

https://maps.suunto.com/move/cdricdodrimont/64b42b335d66080124b52482

[isazi]

@Cédric-Dodrimont I’m asking

[Cédric Dodrimont]

@isazi Thanks!
Maybe I reached the maximum GPS points number the watch can store. But I cannot find any information about such limits.

[Egika]

@Cédric-Dodrimont did you start another activity after this one before syncing it to the phone?

btw: awesome achievement!!!

[Cédric Dodrimont]

@Egika Thanks!

No I didn’t.

[Peter Tönz]

@Cédric-Dodrimont Same adventure and issue here!!!

Finished the Eiger E250 and my recording stops at the ascent to the grimsel:

https://maps.suunto.com/move/petertnz/64b2ac79dba57647cb258b96

The cumulated values (distance incl sleeping/bad gps reception, altutude…) are correct but the map is not complete. Its the first time I recorde such a long ultra trail in one piece. Normally, I stopped and synched on every live base to prevnet such problems!

I have used a Sunnto 9 Baro for this activity

Btw: I didn’t know, suunto has also a web-view of the activities. Looks nice!

[Mff73]

@Peter-Tönz
You can also (manually) change the url like this, it gives another kind od display
https://app.suunto.com/move/petertnz/64b2ac79dba57647cb258b96/

Btw, are you both able to export fit file for these activities and see what is inside?

If one of you has an Android phone, take a look at this advice here
You may see raw data of your activities and check if they are complete (track, etc…) (not just correct summaries)

[zhang965]

It looks like you guys are more responsible and more qualified to test Suunto products, I hope you can be the future suunto testers.

Very appreciated that you pointed out the issues.

That’s a typical tester what we have so far:

[Cédric Dodrimont]

@zhang965 Here it seems we have the same issue on S9B and Vertical.

@Peter-Tönz My Eiger teammate had a S9B, and the recording stopped just before Grosse Scheideg.

But it stopped earlier on the Vertical than the S9B, next time I will use my S9B

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@Cédric-Dodrimont I wonder if there’s some legacy code in Vertical related to this issue if it’s the same in 9B.

What’s the JSON and / or GPX size for those workouts?

[zhang965]

@Cédric-Dodrimont said in End of GPS trace missing:

@zhang965 Here it seems we have the same issue on S9B and Vertical.

Peter-Tönz My Eiger teammate had a S9B, and the recording stopped just before Grosse Scheideg.

But it stopped earlier on the Vertical than the S9B, next time I will use my S9B

Yep, guess what, the person in my screenshot tested S9 as well.

Did you try with your ambit2?

[Cédric Dodrimont]

@zhang965 I had exactly the same issue in 2016 with my ambit during UTMB TDS.

I can understand there’s a limit for recording activities, but I would like to have an estimation on the activity duration we can record, or at least a warning telling me it’s time to stop the activity, sync the watch and start a new one.

[Cédric Dodrimont]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel The exported fit file is 3,8MB

[stromdiddily]

@Cédric-Dodrimont if the watches (all three of them) are showing correct stats (distance, time, elevation, etc) seems more like an issue with the app doesn’t it?

[Cédric Dodrimont]

@stromdiddily Maybe yes.
Or the watches stopped recording GPS data at some point, but no info on the maximum time we can record data with the watch.

[isazi]

@Cédric-Dodrimont rule of thumb is at least the battery duration, so a S9B in performance mode could have problem recording an 80 hours activity, but the Vertical should be able to do that.

[A Former User]

@Cédric-Dodrimont said in End of GPS trace missing:

@zhang965 I had exactly the same issue in 2016 with my ambit during UTMB TDS.

I can understand there’s a limit for recording activities, but I would like to have an estimation on the activity duration we can record, or at least a warning telling me it’s time to stop the activity, sync the watch and start a new one.

Sorry to hijack, but I don’t understand how can that be done, from this table the log capacity of the ambit 3 is always bigger than battery life
watchuseek:

Or it when it doesn’t have the capacity to delete old activities when the log of current one is getting bigger?

[Mff73]

@André-Faria
maybe with charging during activity

[Cédric Dodrimont]

@isazi Thanks for your feedback, anything I can do to analyze what happened ?
The Vertical was configured in performance mode with OHR turned on. Recording stopped after 50 hours.

[Mff73]

@Cédric-Dodrimont
Did you export the fit file for this activity and checked it (for example with https://www.fitfileviewer.com/ ) and see if, by any chance, exported activity contains full track points (meaning data are well stored somewhere at Suunto, but not fully displayed in app) ?

If you have an Android phone, and will little geek skills ( instructions here ) you can try to find the raw data file for this activity, and be able also to check if, data send by watch to app, at that time, was complete.