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    • Cédric DodrimontC Offline
      Cédric Dodrimont @stromdiddily
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      @stromdiddily Maybe yes.
      Or the watches stopped recording GPS data at some point, but no info on the maximum time we can record data with the watch.

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      Suunto 9 Baro
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        isazi Moderator @Cédric Dodrimont
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        @Cédric-Dodrimont rule of thumb is at least the battery duration, so a S9B in performance mode could have problem recording an 80 hours activity, but the Vertical should be able to do that.

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          A Former User @Cédric Dodrimont
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          @Cédric-Dodrimont said in End of GPS trace missing:

          @zhang965 I had exactly the same issue in 2016 with my ambit during UTMB TDS.

          I can understand there’s a limit for recording activities, but I would like to have an estimation on the activity duration we can record, or at least a warning telling me it’s time to stop the activity, sync the watch and start a new one.

          Sorry to hijack, but I don’t understand how can that be done, from this table the log capacity of the ambit 3 is always bigger than battery life
          watchuseek:

          ambit3battery.jpeg

          Or it when it doesn’t have the capacity to delete old activities when the log of current one is getting bigger?

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          • Mff73M Offline
            Mff73 @Guest
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            @André-Faria
            maybe with charging during activity

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            • Cédric DodrimontC Offline
              Cédric Dodrimont @isazi
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              @isazi Thanks for your feedback, anything I can do to analyze what happened ?
              The Vertical was configured in performance mode with OHR turned on. Recording stopped after 50 hours.

              Ambit 2
              Suunto 9 Baro
              Suunto Vertical

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                Mff73 @Cédric Dodrimont
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                @Cédric-Dodrimont
                Did you export the fit file for this activity and checked it (for example with https://www.fitfileviewer.com/ ) and see if, by any chance, exported activity contains full track points (meaning data are well stored somewhere at Suunto, but not fully displayed in app) ?

                If you have an Android phone, and will little geek skills ( 🙂 instructions here ) you can try to find the raw data file for this activity, and be able also to check if, data send by watch to app, at that time, was complete.

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                Suunto Vertical all black
                Wife : S9PP
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                • Peter TönzP Offline
                  Peter Tönz @Mff73
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                  @Mff73 I checked the file samples.json from the suunto app. And in this file, the last sample has the timestamp of the ending track. Also the distance for this sample is valid.
                  There is also no problem with the app. It seems the watch has stoppt recording the track! 😬
                  Except the summary values, showed on the display, are recorded until the end.
                  I would expect a warning from a (not cheap) watch, when the memory goes out!

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                    Mff73 @Peter Tönz
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                    @Peter-Tönz
                    Not nice 😔

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                    • Peter TönzP Offline
                      Peter Tönz @Mff73
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                      @Mff73 I use always the best GPS Quality (no data are better than unusable data 😉) and therefore, every one second a trackpoint is stored.
                      Is it possible to use the best possible GPS quality but onls every 10 seconds or so?
                      Thats enough for such long adventures and extends the possible ‘track-time’ by the factor 10!
                      (I mean that option was available for the Ambit 3 Baro)

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                      • freeheelerF Offline
                        freeheeler @Peter Tönz
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                        @Peter-Tönz
                        I recall GPS was the only system available of all GNSS systems with Ambit and battery life “best, good, ok” was controlled by sample rate 1sec, 5sec or 60sec.
                        I have recently tried ultra mode and was very surprised about precision. honestly never tried it before. maybe give this a try? … don’t wait until the next Eiger Ultra 😉

                        by the way: congrats to all you Eiger Ultra runners! awesome effort! I admire your running capabilities!!

                        living sideways

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                          Łukasz Szmigiel @freeheeler
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                          @freeheeler all GNSS modes in 9PP and Vertical have a 1s fix except for tour mode, which won’t be useful for a run.

                          S9PP 2.40.38

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                          • Cédric DodrimontC Offline
                            Cédric Dodrimont @freeheeler
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                            @freeheeler On Ambit, there were settings to configure recording rate and recording interval on movescount
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                            It would be good if Suunto can provide us with a table with an estimation of max recording time depending on the different battery mode.

                            By the way, I don’t have the complete GPS trace on suuntoapp, but during the Eiger race, the watch was perfect. Data were accurate, the navigation was perfect, battery was awesome.

                            Ambit 2
                            Suunto 9 Baro
                            Suunto Vertical

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                              BrunoH Gold Members @Cédric Dodrimont
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                              @Cédric-Dodrimont said in End of GPS trace missing:

                              It would be good if Suunto can provide us with a table with an estimation of max recording time depending on the different battery mode.

                              Exactly. It is awesome to have a battery life this long, but there should be guidelines regarding other limitations. Or alternatively Suunto to fix the implementation so that ultra long activities can be handled in the watch and in SA.

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                                Likarnik Bronze Member @BrunoH
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                                @BrunoH this is a must, especially because this is their mainly selling point (and tbh only thing that stands out).

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                                  dombo Bronze Member @zhang965
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                                  @zhang965 I see you receive some downvotes. I don’t want to enter any personal here, even I had similar experience regarding crashing of my new vertical. As I’m coming from IT/technical environment I know that if something didn’t happened to me it does not mean it can not happened to somebody else. I learned, that even developers and testers did perfect job, it is still possible that some user will find workflow when it fails or simply does not work. Probably it would be enough just to update attitude here. …and fix bugs as soon as possible.

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                                  • isaziI Offline
                                    isazi Moderator
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                                    People at Suunto are aware of this discussion, and there is an ongoing investigation.

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                                    • zhang965Z Offline
                                      zhang965 @dombo
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                                      @dombo said in End of GPS trace missing:

                                      @zhang965 I see you receive some downvotes. I don’t want to enter any personal here, even I had similar experience regarding crashing of my new vertical. As I’m coming from IT/technical environment I know that if something didn’t happened to me it does not mean it can not happened to somebody else. I learned, that even developers and testers did perfect job, it is still possible that some user will find workflow when it fails or simply does not work. Probably it would be enough just to update attitude here. …and fix bugs as soon as possible.

                                      Dear Dombo,

                                      It’s totally fine to get downvotes, we have many many elephants in the room, and… welcome to suunto community forum!

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                                        Antoine Bronze Member @Cédric Dodrimont
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                                        @Cédric-Dodrimont ok. I understand why i had this kind of problem on a 100 miles (more than 40h). Now it seens resolved with last update.

                                        Watch: Suunto vertical solar

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                                          Peter Tönz @Antoine
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                                          @Antoine I heard about issues to sync long runs… A collegue of mine runs the Swisspeaks 360 last september and recorded the full 360km and 111 hours in one track.
                                          After that he couln’t sync it with the app! 😬

                                          I plan to run for almost two weeks next summer. I will test some long tracks before the big event and will see wether I can track it in one piece (or split it up like with the Sunnto 9 Baro)

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                                            Antoine Bronze Member @Peter Tönz
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                                            @Peter-Tönz i have also “big event” next summer. Keep us informed after long run if the problem is solved. Thanks !

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