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On todays bike trip I realized something. When you set route and you follow, all good. But when you off… Oh, then watch will tell you: you’re off. Really? And now what? This is so lame.
Could be arrow pointing direction to get back on the route, could be straight line drawn to nearest point on route, could be zoom level automatically adjusted to show where the route is, could be anything to help you adjust direction and find your lost way, but no. “You’re off route”. There are situations you can not just stop and search things.
Don’t get me wrong, I like my watch, but these are really basics of navigation.
Suunto, please consider this opportunity for improvement.
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@Lazyjones you must have known this when buying the watch, the watch does not route. You’d need to go on the app to reroute.
I just zoom out, I can see the track that way.
Historical I have run Garmin bike computers. The first thing I have always done is turn the auto recalculate route off. I found this feature caused more issues than it solved…
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I don’t think @Lazyjones was suggesting auto-routing. Simply that the watch should proactively support you back on to the route with a big arrow, a zoomed out map etc.
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@Audaxjoe I think at a minimum the map should zoom out to keep the original route in the view. That’s how navigation behaved on Ambit.
Also I think the light blue arrows should continue to be displayed on the original route - on a part of the route closest to the current position. Perhaps the visualization should change to indicate being off route, but knowing the original direction would be very helpful because it is easy to get disoriented.
My recent experience when I went off route and later merged in the route was that not only I didn’t know which way to go on the route until the very last moment, but the watch also reversed the route direction guiding me away from the car. That was frustrating!
Suunto definitely has to address this!
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@Lazyjones said in Easy navigation improvement:
could be zoom level automatically adjusted to show where the route is,
This is how it works now. It zooms out in order to fit the closest part of the route on the screen.
S9PP 2.40.44
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@Lazyjones said in Easy navigation improvement:
Oh, then watch will tell you: you’re off. Really? And now what?
it happened to me a couple of times to get on “off-route” alert while hiking, then I simply went back along the last part of the path I was walking and reached the original route.
I understand it could be a bit more difficult if the alert comes with a delay, but it should be feasible in any case. The real problem is that sometimes the alert isn’t triggered at all … -
Have been on a long biketour last weekend and went of route several times.
As far as I can remember it was pretty straight forward as you could see the breadcrumb your on and the planed route aside. This is a 9PP, so no maps. Didn’t have to zoom out, so I guess it has been zoomed automatically but will re-check later.
As for direction, this depends on how you turn the watch, an arrow would be great of course but you can find the direction by turning the watch.
Sometimes it happened when you get back on track, that it is guiding you in the wrong direction - even while planned in the other direction. Did check on the app and watch but it seems to send you back sometimes to the latest waypoint. As soon as you ride in the correct direction it fixes this again.
My biggest wish for navigation is speech output, next left, now left and so on. I often ride with headset and it works fine with komoot but I don’t wont to waste phone battery.
So if the app can tell heartrate and pace it shouldn’t be that hard to tell you directions.
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@Łukasz-Szmigiel No, it’s not.
To be precise: on my SRS with latest soft, there’s only message “off route” and I can see only piece of map with my position at recent zoom level. To see lost route I have to manually zoom out.
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I isazi moved this topic from Feature Suggestions
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Okay, did a test ride. On the route screen it zoomed out two 500m, 1km, 5km. Latest software update is installed. The white dots show the breadcrumb the blue line the planned route.
If there is no auto zoom on the SRS it seems there is a difference at that point.
Should be added to the SRS too.
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Here is a link to my earlier post on a related subject. I am linking it here since this thread is getting some attention:
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@Lazyjones then it must be a bug or discrepancy in regard to other watches running the same firmware. It used to work like this in S5 and it does so on S9PP.
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I often deliberately veer of route very well knowing where I get back onto it.
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@Egika Honestly I’d prefer just indicator telling me should I steer left or right to be back on route. But as you see zooming is already implemented, just not on my watch and I’ll take it instead of having nothing.
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@Ecki-D.
I use a standard Race (always with the latest software) & have gone off route many times, as @Lazyjones reports with his SRS I don’t get any auto zoom going on either, just my breadcrumb trail at the same zoom level.I’ve had to zoom out manually every time to establish where the route is to get back on it.
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@Mattg576 maybe it’s implemented differently on devices with a crown.
