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    • F Online
      far-blue Bronze Member
      last edited by

      I don’t think @Lazyjones was suggesting auto-routing. Simply that the watch should proactively support you back on to the route with a big arrow, a zoomed out map etc.

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      • sky-runnerS Offline
        sky-runner Silver Members @Audaxjoe
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        @Audaxjoe I think at a minimum the map should zoom out to keep the original route in the view. That’s how navigation behaved on Ambit.

        Also I think the light blue arrows should continue to be displayed on the original route - on a part of the route closest to the current position. Perhaps the visualization should change to indicate being off route, but knowing the original direction would be very helpful because it is easy to get disoriented.

        My recent experience when I went off route and later merged in the route was that not only I didn’t know which way to go on the route until the very last moment, but the watch also reversed the route direction guiding me away from the car. That was frustrating!

        Suunto definitely has to address this!

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        • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Online
          Łukasz Szmigiel @Lazyjones
          last edited by

          @Lazyjones said in Easy navigation improvement:

          could be zoom level automatically adjusted to show where the route is,

          This is how it works now. It zooms out in order to fit the closest part of the route on the screen.

          S9PP 2.40.44

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          • Stefano M64S Offline
            Stefano M64 Silver Members @Lazyjones
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            @Lazyjones said in Easy navigation improvement:

            Oh, then watch will tell you: you’re off. Really? And now what?

            it happened to me a couple of times to get on “off-route” alert while hiking, then I simply went back along the last part of the path I was walking and reached the original route.
            I understand it could be a bit more difficult if the alert comes with a delay, but it should be feasible in any case. The real problem is that sometimes the alert isn’t triggered at all …

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            • Ecki D.E Offline
              Ecki D. Bronze Member
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              Have been on a long biketour last weekend and went of route several times.
              As far as I can remember it was pretty straight forward as you could see the breadcrumb your on and the planed route aside. This is a 9PP, so no maps. Didn’t have to zoom out, so I guess it has been zoomed automatically but will re-check later.
              As for direction, this depends on how you turn the watch, an arrow would be great of course but you can find the direction by turning the watch.
              Sometimes it happened when you get back on track, that it is guiding you in the wrong direction - even while planned in the other direction. Did check on the app and watch but it seems to send you back sometimes to the latest waypoint. As soon as you ride in the correct direction it fixes this again.
              My biggest wish for navigation is speech output, next left, now left and so on. I often ride with headset and it works fine with komoot but I don’t wont to waste phone battery.
              So if the app can tell heartrate and pace it shouldn’t be that hard to tell you directions.
              Looking at the watch at higher speeds on trails is a bit critical.

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              • LazyjonesL Online
                Lazyjones @Łukasz Szmigiel
                last edited by Lazyjones

                @Łukasz-Szmigiel No, it’s not.
                To be precise: on my SRS with latest soft, there’s only message “off route” and I can see only piece of map with my position at recent zoom level. To see lost route I have to manually zoom out.
                No auto-zoom, no arrow, no help.

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                • Ecki D.E Offline
                  Ecki D. Bronze Member
                  last edited by Ecki D.

                  Okay, did a test ride. On the route screen it zoomed out two 500m, 1km, 5km. Latest software update is installed. The white dots show the breadcrumb the blue line the planned route.

                  If there is no auto zoom on the SRS it seems there is a difference at that point.
                  Should be added to the SRS too.

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                  • sky-runnerS Offline
                    sky-runner Silver Members @Ecki D.
                    last edited by sky-runner

                    Here is a link to my earlier post on a related subject. I am linking it here since this thread is getting some attention:

                    https://forum.suunto.com/topic/12994/suunto-navigation-tendency-to-auto-reverse-route-when-it-shouldn-t.-bug-or-misguided-feature

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                    • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Online
                      Łukasz Szmigiel @Lazyjones
                      last edited by

                      @Lazyjones then it must be a bug or discrepancy in regard to other watches running the same firmware. It used to work like this in S5 and it does so on S9PP.

                      S9PP 2.40.44

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                      • EgikaE Offline
                        Egika Platinum Member
                        last edited by

                        I often deliberately veer of route very well knowing where I get back onto it.
                        I would not want the watch to do anything like automatic change of zoom or help me back etc.

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                        • LazyjonesL Online
                          Lazyjones @Egika
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                          @Egika Honestly I’d prefer just indicator telling me should I steer left or right to be back on route. But as you see zooming is already implemented, just not on my watch and I’ll take it instead of having nothing.
                          Btw, I don’t use routing when wandering paths I know.

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                            Mattg576 @Ecki D.
                            last edited by

                            @Ecki-D.
                            I use a standard Race (always with the latest software) & have gone off route many times, as @Lazyjones reports with his SRS I don’t get any auto zoom going on either, just my breadcrumb trail at the same zoom level.

                            I’ve had to zoom out manually every time to establish where the route is to get back on it.

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                            • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Online
                              Łukasz Szmigiel @Mattg576
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                              @Mattg576 maybe it’s implemented differently on devices with a crown.

                              S9PP 2.40.44

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