@tyresej4 thanks for clearing it up. I know I shoot against suunto from time to time but the bottom line was:
The garmin forum community lacks a lot of manners for a majority of posts, where here, people are very supportive and constructive.
I do not like garmin as a brand, but their watches appeal to my data-loving fiddle-around mindset. Also, I got very frustrated in races when my suunto watches crashed on me (not saying that is a general thing, just my experience).
People here in this forum deserve great products, some even post their own ideas and designs to support the brand. People at suunto either use that drive, or the company will be at a tipping point.