@tomahawk5000 that looks a lot like a track using fused track. Segments are very square in nature, and there aren’t any of the typical back and forth squiggles (technical term ).

I have no such a problem with new S9P…

Just for the sake of chatting and knowledge It’s just arrived to mama today for a check, I’ll let you know.

@krakra In November 2019 bought 6X Sapphire for the mapping features and the much better battery.

@aldnet I’ll see what happens by doing that, I really don’t need MC installed on the phone, so it can go. I did receive a reply in this morning’s E-mail, and they did suggest I send it in, which I decided not to do, as once again, I’m sure it’s some sort of firmware problem, or as aldnet says, a function of both softwares being on the phone. That case is closed, and I am anxiously awaiting a firmware update to see if that helps, if removing MC doesn’t.

@Stefan-Kersting damn, I was hoping to meet you at the Vantaa parking lot. I am planning to bring my Metron in!

Thanks, but it happens…isn’t a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

@vietpq yes, the same was true for me (I don’t use my S9 any longer). It did some nice tracking but when it failed (and unfortunately it failed a bit too often for me), it failed really hard when Glonass was enabled. E.g. it placed me up to 200 meters away from my current position and that also affected navigation because it was just too much off the right track. On a side note: I also use Glonass with my new Garmin 945 and it never had that problem (about 20 runs up to now). So if this is on Sony’s side, maybe you get better results when they integrate the changes they did for Garmin in the GPS firmware. If it’s on application-code side, well then the guys at Garmin are doing something better.

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I sent you a pm with the details, thanks.

@pavel-samokha while it says its the same model co-processor they have made significant improvements to it, and now call it an Enhanced QC1110 compared to QC1110. There was a table that I came across somewhere on the qualcomm site that explained the differences in detail. This link is to a similar table to the qualcomm one: https://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Wear-4100-Specs.jpg notice that while the core hasn’t changed they have improved the memory, dsp and see enabling the co-processor to run more colours in ambient mode, and to enable it better manage steps, cHRM, alarms, haptic and tilt to wake in the background --> this all screams to me of the watch being able to acheive serious battery life while in ambient mode and providing 24/7 HRM, sleep tracking etc in the background with minimal impact to battery life. Hoping that if manufacturers properly use the co-processor (and if wear os also designed to use it) we might get a true smartwatch with similar battery life (in smartwatch mode) as to fitness watches. Biggest concern re this is around notifications - as suspect this wakes the watch…

@ldxmsg Not for the S9 I am afraid. You can set tone, tone & vibration, vibration, and both off. But no vibration intensity. https://www.suunto.com/en-be/Support/Product-support/suunto_9/suunto_9/features/tones-and-vibration/

@manuel-silvestri The S9B development has not yet stopped. I think Suunto is a nimble forward thinking and moving company. They want to make sustainable products. I agree that new hardware could have some improvements on the S9baro but I doubt something major. The question to ask yourself is what kind of watch do you need? For me, that is simple, long battery life, durable and reliable. The S9b is perfect for that. What I want in the S9b that it does not have, training plans, was there when Movescount was working and I hope will come back with syncing to 3rd party software. There is little I could ask for hardware wise that I need. I would love to have the map implementation on the S9 that is on the S7. That will not happen for a long time as it will required either development of mapping for an S9 successor or development of an S7 successor with S9 battery life. Neither of those AFAIK would be on the horizon in the next year or so. The S9b is now a helluva watch; the navigation improvements with Komoot turn by turn, waypoints and POIs are awesome. Couple that with the best navigation tools of any manufacturer, which SA has, and you have an outdoor watch winner! I am hoping for offline loading of maps in SA and gradient shading, that would make my day!

After 8 years since my last Garmin (Fenix 2), I purchased the Fenix 7 Sapphire Solar. Quite happy with it. The touchscreen is pretty smooth to use, considering the Fenix 2 I had was ultra-buggy. And hence the S9 goes into retirement…

@mtnsportsnutrition I see SuuntoPlus Guides as a platform, so now Structured Intervals can be easily created by 3rd party apps, and more options could be enabled in the future. Let’s see what developers can imagine and request to Suunto Regarding Gretel, it seems to be starting, because althoght I live in Spain, I cannot find any of my zone races BR

Guess this would never happen. And I can understand why…specially for newer/recent models. But maybe for older models to allow people that want to work on it . There was already some discussions about open source https://forum.suunto.com/topic/1744/open-source-movescount-web https://forum.suunto.com/topic/3431/make-firmware-for-ambit-3-opensource Would love to see a little more love from Suunto to old ambit generation, maybe to “help” open ambit project… I understand Suunto doesn’t have the resources nor economically viable to still work on support for these devices , so maybe letting others work on it could be cool. Even appwise, maybe to allow to have some “modules”/plugins made by others (it was like this on sporttracks pc app, no idea of android/iOS can have it).

@someguythatruns I completely agree with you. I run on typically technical trails in Colorado with steep inclines and rocks. The obstacles slow uphill as well as downhill speeds. I have found the Stryd useful for training but not useful for racing or technical trail running. My pace and effort vary too much depending on the terrain.

@77alex77 You should send an email to support@

@Frederic never lose signal in external ambient with Ambit, Spartan or S9 .

@Bulkan When a new flagship watch comes, I agree it will have new hardware. I was surprised with the S9 as Suunto was a year ahead of others incorporating the Sony GPS chip. I suspect watch development and testing was 9 months to a year prior to that.

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