Suunto Run reviews

babychai

so Vertical and Race are still King of the GPS accuracy

Egika

@maszop said in Suunto Run reviews:

@Egika Let me remind you of what I wrote earlier:

Drain battery,

if you still have it with current firmware, there is a setting with backlight wrong or your watch has a hardware issue

non-functional WiFi switch

this has not been there for 2 years, but was introduced with the last FW update. Will be solved with the next one.

no contour lines, non functional navigation messages

this is working as designed, even if the design is poor, it does not qualify as a bug

overestimated elevation gain in strong winds

this is an issue - right. Difficult to solve.

sleep recording problems,

sleep recording as well as WHR are highly individual. No bug, but not ideal accuracy. Same as swim style.

no support for advanced workouts, no support for multiple sensors,

this is by design - no bug

Egika

@babychai I have been running with Race S and Run in parallel. Is was fun to fell the 1km autolap vibrate simultaneously on both arms

Since Run has the same dual band GPS chip, accuracy is not really inferior.

TrailEyes

@Egika Presumably, antenna placement or some other factor could limit a device’s GPS accuracy, beyond just the chip set.

Stavrogin

@Egika I have done the same thing with the Vertical and the Race S. I think at about mile 3 or 4 there was a slight 0.01 variation, but still rock solid. Suunto has had the best GPS of any watch I have ever owned.

raven

I am hoping that many features of the Run will be backported to some older watches, particularly the Race S for me but also the Race and Vertical. I’m coming from the Apple ecosystem, where watchOS updates to older watches are roughly concurrent with new devices. So when Apple Watch series 10 was released last year with watchOS11, that OS version also came to series 9 and others. As an example, in watchOS 11, there was a new Vitals app that summarized a few recovery metrics, and that feature instantly came down to my series 7 watch.

Looking at the Run, a feature like the new Breath widget seems like something that should be backported to older Suunto watches. I understand Suunto might be constricted in terms of development resources, etc. so I wouldn’t expect things like this to immediately be available like Apple’s watchOS does, but I would hope that it would come eventually.

Elsewhere in this group, I’ve commented about my desire for the offline music feature. Looking at the reviews that dropped today, I did see a comment that one way to get music onto the watch is by bluetooth transfer and one can do this from one’s phone using the Suunto app. While the new charging cable can also connect to a computers to allow drag-and-drop transfer (which is new hardware not compatible with older devices), it’s nice that phone/bluetooth is an option, so I’m hoping that’s enough to allow this to be backported as well, although it may be that particular feature won’t make it.

As for the Run overall, I think it’s overall good value, and most of the limitations as I understand them seem reasonable: breadcrumbs instead of full maps, only HRM and footpod sensors and not cycling power meters, etc. makes sense for this device. I still think the sports mode limitation is a bit silly. For example, I use the “Martial Arts” mode to track Kickboxing, which does not seem to be present. However, “Boxing” is present, so I think I’d be able to use that; and furthermore, once uploaded to Suunto app, I could edit and change sport mode there. And Boxing as one of the modes seems weird when Calisthenics isn’t present? Seems there’s more people who would do push ups, bodyweight squats, etc. then would do a Boxing workout or class. Unless these sport modes take a lot of storage space I don’t really get their limitation here when they’ve already been developed, and I think the Run has enough limitations from the Race series already.

Adrian.S

Thanks everyone for your feedback.

I also think RUN is a step in the right direction:

improvements in athletics (track/lane number!),
improvements to the watch interface and usability
the ability to lock the display!!!
improved HR sensor in the watch,

We are waiting for these GOOD changes to be implemented in Vertical, Race, and Race S.

We are waiting for more data editing options on the face, especially on the map widget.

I am especially looking forward to changes in the Android/iOS app and additional health tracking.

Brad_Olwin

@maszop said in Suunto Run reviews:

@Egika Let me remind you of what I wrote earlier:

Drain battery, non-functional WiFi switch, no contour lines, non functional navigation messages, overestimated elevation gain in strong winds, sleep recording problems, no support for advanced workouts, no support for multiple sensors, swim style and distance detection , etc.

What @Egika stated. Despite many of us trying to help you and point out what are bugs and what is design you either don’t read or don’t believe.
I have no battery drain issues.
Sleep tracking is accurate
Advanced workouts are supported in Suunto App and by 3rd parties.

Brad_Olwin

https://youtu.be/-0iyLEPC9LU?si=qzht1KJ7d96Aw6Rz

https://youtu.be/xyqRG_hD8po?si=1kzpQnY9tNkjVsm0

https://youtu.be/S01HKmamOsQ?si=5nINgPiiMPKs4nBI

https://youtu.be/xyqRG_hD8po?si=3pYAA9rLesczJWXu

Tieutieu

French reviews :
montre cardio gps
sport passion
fandroid

6iovanni

Hi,

Sorry in advance, I am posting here because I have not found a specific thread for the Run model. I really like it but can’t find any information if DDFA is available for this model.

Thanks

Egika

@Adrian.S said in Suunto Run reviews:

improvements in athletics (track/lane number!),

as stated elsewhere: this will come to the current watches as well

improvements to the watch interface and usability

I personally am not sure if the new interface is an improvement. During hard activities or just with gloves, I find it much easier to just press the middle button for the next screen, instead of turning the wheel.

the ability to lock the display!!!

This is available in all current models (and actually NOT in Suunto Run)

improved HR sensor in the watch,

While the hardware is slightly different, I don’t see much difference to Race S’s OHR…

isazi

@6iovanni not in real-time, you should have it in the app

6iovanni

@isazi being a run model I was hoping it would be available. What a pity, now I have to rethink everything, I took it for granted

Thanks!

far-blue

@isazi That occurred to me too. Without SuuntoPlus support both imported workouts and zonesense wouldn’t be available.

My guess is that the Run is based on the Xiaomi platform. We previously saw a china-only Xiaomi watch with “Suunto Inside” so it makes sense as an evolution.

But after all the effort to grow the SuuntoPlus integrations with third parties over the last couple of years it would be a huge shame if that was lost just as it was gaining decent traction. While Suunto could work to integrate the popular apps as native functionality there’s a lot of benefit to Suunto in hardware manufacturers using SuuntoPlus to add support where Suunto would otherwise miss out. And I don’t believe ZoneSense would have been developed as fast as it was without SuuntoPlus. So fingers crossed either SuuntoPlus is migrated to the new platform or Suunto decide to keep both platforms for the foreseeable.

Brad_Olwin

@6iovanni said in Suunto Run reviews:

Hi,

Sorry in advance, I am posting here because I have not found a specific thread for the Run model. I really like it but can’t find any information if DDFA is available for this model.

Thanks

DDFA is not currently on the Run. I do not know whether it will be implemented. I have been testing the Run for quite some time now and have asked for DDFA during testing. Not sure if this will be implemented. I thought for a running watch it should be there.

6iovanni

@Brad_Olwin said in Suunto Run reviews:

I thought for a running watch it should be there.

Me as well! As you say, I hope Suunto will reconsider

Egika

@far-blue the Xiaomi watch was a one-off project with Suunto helping Xiaomi getting it right.

Suunto Run is a 100% Suunto made sport watch.

far-blue

@Egika Then where has this new platform and OS sprung from? It makes more sense to assume it is an extension of an existing platform and given the recent Xiaomi collab plus the fact Xiaomi devices sync with Suunto App it would seem a sensible base to start from.

Bastienhere

All I hope is that most (if not all) of the new Run Watch OS Features/redesigns comes to the older models like the Vertical/Race/Race S. Specifically those:

Redesigned Widgets with more data at a glance
new scrolling logic
UV index in Weather Widget (finally!!)
New Training Recovery Widget
New Flashlight modes (beacon, red)
Track activity
More granular App notification control
App icon in Notifications
More granular Tones & Vibrations control
Metronome
Offline Music playback (i’d understand HW limitations)

It’d be a slap in the face if they don’t get ported considering they’re all much more expensive Watches than the Run