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    Feature Suggestion: download maps when not connected to charger.

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    • peegeeP Offline
      peegee @Danny poleg
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      • Mff73M Offline
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        With recent map updates, my SV was on charger a long time for map downloading, and during this download, the battery gauge didn’t change : no charge.
        Is it normal, and designed like this?

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          SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member @Mff73
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          @Mff73 This sounds crazy to me, because my SV is charging and downloading maps at the same time… but charging was much faster than downloading last time when I was updating the maps of Germany…

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          • Brad_OlwinB Offline
            Brad_Olwin Moderator @Rokelly
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            @Rokelly Not a good idea as running out of power while downloading would be bad.

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            • laufbursche7L Offline
              laufbursche7 @isazi
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              @isazi How to download the map on the Race in WiFi? The app only works in conjunction with the charger.

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              • freeheelerF Offline
                freeheeler @laufbursche7
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                @laufbursche7
                it’s not possible to download without the charger. it was requested to make this possible, but some maps are very big and transferring time is long

                living sideways

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                • sartoricS Offline
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                  and WiFi is energy hungry 😁

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                  • laufbursche7L Offline
                    laufbursche7 @freeheeler
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                    @freeheeler thanks for answering.
                    I thought there was another option because I didn’t take my charger with me to Denmark. I ran without topography yesterday. I didn’t get lost.😊
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                    • laufbursche7L Offline
                      laufbursche7 @freeheeler
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                      @freeheeler I ran the new route without topography in Denmark and found back.PXL_20240331_084841702~2.jpg

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                      • BrunoHB Offline
                        BrunoH Gold Members @laufbursche7
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                        @laufbursche7 …aaaand everyone can see that Denmark is pretty flat, so you don’t really need to worry about the contour lines 😜

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                        • laufbursche7L Offline
                          laufbursche7 @BrunoH
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                          @BrunoH Denmark is flat, that’s not the topic. I run 3 times a week in mountainous regions. It’s about not knowing the surroundings and it would have been nice if I had all the paths on the Route on my watch.

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                          • Mff73M Offline
                            Mff73 @Mff73
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                            @Mff73 said in Feature Suggestion: download maps when not connected to charger.:

                            With recent map updates, my SV was on charger a long time for map downloading, and during this download, the battery gauge didn’t change : no charge.
                            Is it normal, and designed like this?

                            Same issue today 🤔.
                            Watch battery was 15%, plugged on the charger to charge and download maps.
                            Maps were downloaded but watch is still 15%.
                            Is it worth sending logs?

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                            • isaziI Offline
                              isazi Moderator @Mff73
                              last edited by

                              @Mff73 said in Feature Suggestion: download maps when not connected to charger.:

                              Is it worth sending logs?

                              You are probably getting a new firmware next week

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                              • Mff73M Offline
                                Mff73 @isazi
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                                @isazi
                                Is it a known issue which will be fixed with this new FW?

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                                • isaziI Offline
                                  isazi Moderator @Mff73
                                  last edited by

                                  @Mff73 I don’t recall this being known, but firmware is basically release candidate state, so if it happens with the new firmware it makes sense reporting it.

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                                  • kriskusK Offline
                                    kriskus Bronze Member @isazi
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                                    But back to the original feature request - this is still a valid point. Why not allow to download without a charger, but with a battery requirement of e.g. 50% or 30%? If during the process the battery gets lower, the operation could be paused, just like currently it is when the watch is disconnected from charging.

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                                    • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @kriskus
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                                      @kriskus Same answer as before. Some of the maps are very large, a charger is required. If maps are improved with place names, etc they will have more data. Part of this might be future proofing. I do not know, just speculating.

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                                      • dreamer_D Offline
                                        dreamer_ @Brad_Olwin
                                        last edited by dreamer_

                                        I didn’t know about this requirement when I bought the Vertical and I had that situation. Luckily I had the charging cable with me, and I was able to download a map connecting the watch to my car and sharing wifi with my phone. 😁

                                        I am sure the algorythm can be improved. This is a watch with a (very) long lasting battery, so a map download should not be a problem if you have more than i.e, let’s say a 30% battery. And even when you download a file, the algorythm can checksum the downloaded file before installing it (which is probably already doing it). So not using the charger should not be an issue at all.

                                        But at the end, I don’t think this is an issue at all. To be fair, how many times are we downloading or updating a map? Once or twice a year? As my understanding, it should be better to use the development resources in fixing real and important things when possible.

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                                        • Anthony GuillemetteA Offline
                                          Anthony Guillemette Bronze Member
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                                          I really hope too that speed of downloading will be fix soon, and also the capacity to download maps without wifi.

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