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    The Race is nice, but I’m still holding on to my Vertical

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      craigeggleton Bronze Member @GiPFELKiND
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      @GiPFELKiND But it is not plastic but for some damn reason sure looks plasticy!!! ha!!

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        Egika Platinum Member @craigeggleton
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        @craigeggleton understand!
        Never had a TI Vertical, just the all black one, so cannot compare.

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        Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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          freeheeler @craigeggleton
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          @craigeggleton
          @Egika
          the titanium bezel of Race strongly reminds me visually of the A3PS with its stainless bezel that was more eye catching than the A3P all black.

          I’ve got both, Vertical and Race in titanium and have a high quality impression of both watches.
          the race is even lighter and hence I understand the more tank-ish feel of the Vertical.
          in summary I personally expect the Race to withstand the same beating as the Vertical

          living sideways

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            Patrick Löffler 0 Bronze Member @freeheeler
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            @freeheeler You have both! So good! Thinking also of buying a Vertical. I have the Race currently. Is there a difference for you in comfort? Which are you wearing more? Thanks.

            Suunto Race, Vertical, Ocean, Race S
            Garmin Marq 2 Carbon (I know how stupid that is)
            Apple Watch Ultra

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              freeheeler @Patrick Löffler 0
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              @Patrick-Löffler-0
              the Race is a bit lighter and it feels slightly more comfortable for me.
              I’m wearing the Vertical 24/7

              living sideways

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                Patrick Löffler 0 Bronze Member @freeheeler
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                @freeheeler Thanks. May I please ask why you prefer the Vertical even the Race is more comfortable to you?

                Suunto Race, Vertical, Ocean, Race S
                Garmin Marq 2 Carbon (I know how stupid that is)
                Apple Watch Ultra

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                  pilleus @freeheeler
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                  @freeheeler said in The Race is nice, but I’m still holding on to my Vertical:

                  @Patrick-Löffler-0
                  the Race is a bit lighter and it feels slightly more comfortable for me.
                  I’m wearing the Vertical 24/7

                  Take a velcro strap and you will check several times a day whether the watch is still on your wrist … I never had a better feeling with a watch. 😊

                  https://www.instagram.com/moves.are.life/
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                  Suunto 9 Peak Pro Black
                  Suunto Spartan Ultra Stealth Titanium

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                    freeheeler @Patrick Löffler 0
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                    @Patrick-Löffler-0
                    yes, I wear the Vertical because it is my own 🙂
                    the others aren’t and I wear them alternating for sports or specific reasons only

                    living sideways

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                      Tieutieu Platinum Member
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                      First official rebate on suunto’s website on the SV, for Black Friday.
                      -100€ on French store.

                      Suunto’s devices at home :
                      Vertical titanium solar
                      Suunto Race S
                      S9pp titanium sand
                      Suunto Wing
                      S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                        Kai Liu Bronze Member @runomatic
                        last edited by Kai Liu

                        @runomatic

                        because it is manufactured in China.
                        This is stereotype. iPhone is manufactured in China, what is the problem?

                        S7, S9P, Vertical Solar / boxing, skiing, hiking, running

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                          craigeggleton Bronze Member @freeheeler
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                          @freeheeler I took the Race off for a few weeks and switched between Epix Pro 51mm and 965. Took the Race out of the drawer and the wow factor hit again. I don’t see it as plasticky or having a less premium feel than the Vertical like I did a few weeks ago.

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                            altcmd Silver Members @Kai Liu
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                            @Kai-Liu let’s clear this up a bit - iPhones are indeed manufactured in China and India but for an American listed company that is audited and financials and other information disclosed, has a transparent sustainability track. On the other hand, you have Suunto which is now a Chinese company and in the case of Race also made in China. Can one say anything about financials, sustainability about the parent owner? Any independent audits of where the Race is made? Fair wages, no child labour, no oppressive labour practices, etc, any info on these?

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                              Jonathan C Silver Members @altcmd
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                              @altcmd agree, the point of debate not so much being the quality outcome of the product (which I’m sure can be equally excellent) but the philosophy and what a company stands for. If Suunto is all about Finnish heritage then I would not buy a core product that’s explicitly made somewhere else, provided that they still have local manufacturing. That’s why I’m not getting the Race, no matter how appealing its overall package. Of course you can say that even the Made in Finland Vertical most certainly has outsourced components, but that’s not the point.

                              Current: Ocean, Vertical Titanium Solar
                              Past: 9 Baro, Spartan Ultra, Ambit3 Peak Sapphire

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                                altcmd Silver Members @Jonathan C
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                                @Jonathan-C agreed. In similar vein, we spoke about the questionable tactics of Suunto around sustainability here: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/8157/sustainability-at-suunto/38

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                                  Tieutieu Platinum Member
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                                  Finally !..
                                  Finally I was able to see, touch and use a bit the Suunto Race of a friend (steel black)…

                                  The screen is brilliant, that’s the point. It also seemed to be a bit more responsive than my SV (but it was a very short time test).

                                  But I must say I definitively prefer my SV titanium. It looks just better to me (color, size/shape even they’re close), and I’m very much confident about button upon crown.

                                  Let’s bet the futur will be awesome considering SR and SV are already top of the line ! 😊

                                  Suunto’s devices at home :
                                  Vertical titanium solar
                                  Suunto Race S
                                  S9pp titanium sand
                                  Suunto Wing
                                  S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                                    freeheeler @Tieutieu
                                    last edited by freeheeler

                                    @Tieutieu
                                    my son wished a new watch for his birthday and he decided to choose the Vertical Titanium over the Race Titanium.
                                    he’s now happy to the moon and back 😍

                                    living sideways

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                                      Todd Danielczyk Gold Members @freeheeler
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                                      @freeheeler I’m sure he’s already planning activities to do with his new Vertical. Nice birthday present to get!

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                                        Tami999 Silver Members @freeheeler
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                                        @freeheeler Good Dad! Own Vertical since autumn and iam happy.

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                                          Kai Liu Bronze Member @altcmd
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                                          @altcmd said in The Race is nice, but I’m still holding on to my Vertical:

                                          Fair wages, no child labour, no oppressive labour practices, etc, any info on these?

                                          You are making a lot of assumptions probably learnt from western media. Go there and see yourself instead.

                                          Fair wages – every country living expense is not the same, you can’t compare it dollar to dollar.
                                          child labour – do you believe that child can make Suunto watch? Besides the talent issue, there are too much labour looking for job in China that you don’t need child to work
                                          oppressive labour practices – are you talking about working overtime? Don’t use Instagram then, meta is well known of working overtime.

                                          S7, S9P, Vertical Solar / boxing, skiing, hiking, running

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                                            sartoric Moderator
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                                            Just as a general note, let’s not start some kind of cultural clash here, please

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