The Race is nice, but I’m still holding on to my Vertical

SuperFlo75

I like my Vertical very much, no need to by a watch at the moment

BrunoH

@e6321 exactically, and I find it easier to wait for the update now that I know what to expect!

BrunoH

@runomatic hey mate, educate me! What happened to S7 amoled? I got rid of mine pretty early and S7 kinda dropped from my radar.

Egika

@BrunoH it is a Smartwatch with a battery lasting between 1-2 days running Android WearOS.
Introduced 3 years ago or so, not in the Suunto portfolio anymore.

stromdiddily

@BrunoH said in The Race is nice, but I’m still holding on to my Vertical:

@runomatic hey mate, educate me! What happened to S7 amoled? I got rid of mine pretty early and S7 kinda dropped from my radar.

Suunto kind of got screwed a bit by WearOS tbh. Was a really cool idea but dependent on a 3rd party OS makes it tough to sustain

nseslija

Definitely keep the Vertical, really love the watch! I would choose Vertical over Race if I was buying a watch today. Solar, battery life… and I prefer MIP over AMOLED…

BrunoH

@Egika thank you, I know what S7 was. I had one… The battery lasted hardly 24 hours (brand new) and it was crashing constantly (among other fatal errors).

I was just wondering if the amoled display suffered from some long time problems.

Quoting @runomatic :
Keep also in mind, what’s happend with the Suunto 7’s AMOLED display after some years.

Kowalski

@Andrew_

You should not buy a new watche just because there is a new one…

Egika

@BrunoH yes, quite some users had screen burn issues. Suunto must have replaced a lot of screens…
I rather guess they learned from this screen-wise and don’t want to make this happen again…

taziden

@Egika said in The Race is nice, but I’m still holding on to my Vertical:

@BrunoH yes, quite some users had screen burn issues. Suunto must have replaced a lot of screens…
I rather guess they learned from this screen-wise and don’t want to make this happen again…

Desfit showed in his review that it was taken into account with the Race, with “pixel shifting” (don’t know how to say that better). The characters displayed would move from time to time, so as not to burn parts of the screen.

Egika

@taziden correct. Those always on energy saving displays are designed in a way that not always the same pixels are activated.
Plus I am very sure that the display hardware is 3 years improved since Suunto 7

isazi

Suunto devs are working really hard to make the new firmware (probably expected in Fall 2023, let’s say a Tuesday like in the past?) stable and full of new features, large and small. There’s even still development on the GNSS firmware. The Vertical is definitely not an abandoned watch.

So even with Suunto MIP is definitely dead? MIP is the clear winner outdoors AMOLED can’t compare even close imo

e6321

@ultravox people keep saying this but the vertical was only released 6 months ago.
AMOLED will never get better battery life than MIP. I think it’s here for long run. Just different devices for different people.

@N6321 said in The Race is nice, but I’m still holding on to my Vertical:

Just different devices for different people

I hope so

freeheeler

@ultravox
the screen is good, very good to be honest. I was extremely positive surprised and didn’t expect that from an AMOLED.

I’ve bought a Vertical on the release day. the decision for me back then was easy.
If I’d had to choose today the decision, honestly wouldn’t be that easy anymore.
But as it was mentioned some times already I also see different usecases for either watch.
and I would say the main driver for the decision could be the personal preference. “some people” sorry… prefer the bright, vivid and crisp color of AMOLED

General_Witt

I recently gave back to Amazon my Vertical for an hardware issue and got my money back. I’m honestly telling you I’m buying the Race without a doubt. The only niche I can clearly see for the Vertical are extreme alpinists and their monthly long trips in some remote region.
The screen, the very decent battery for an AMOLED display, the fitness metrics, and for me the most important thing: 24/7 dressability, the Race is a little smaller, it’s less edgy on the superior part and a little lighter (titanium version under 70 grams), all at a reasonable price.
It’s a no brainer in my opinion.

e6321

@General_Witt no without a doubt the value of the vertical has been significantly eroded. But it still has its place.
Suunto really on the offensive with this release. Should shake up the watch market a fair bit.

I suppose one danger is they are maybe at risk of pricing themselves out of keeping manufacturing in Finland.

@Egika said in The Race is nice, but I’m still holding on to my Vertical:

@BrunoH yes, quite some users had screen burn issues. Suunto must have replaced a lot of screens…
I rather guess they learned from this screen-wise and don’t want to make this happen again…

I remember seeing a lot of that on Suunto 7 but don’t recall seeing that on the garmin (I searched a bit before buying the 965), so maybe it was just a screen supplier issue. Let’s hope for the race it’s a different one and no issues

General_Witt

@e6321 If Race would have been manufactured in Finland 100% with green energy and the price was 650 euro I’d still choose the Race.
I’m not happy about the manufacturing in China, but the value is just too solid not to buy it based on this fact.