Suunto 9 Peak Pro?

isazi

@nseslija for F7 and F7S, dual frequency is only available in the sapphire versions.

@isazi Suuntos single frequency much better than Garmins single frequency. So why should Suunto do it… more accuracy almost impossible that means that the benefit for Suunto is way less than Garmin because Suunto basic single frequency accuracy best.

helgonet12

@isazi so still no fix for resources bug when you do an walk activity. (Walking the dog) in the morning the resources drops to 0 or close to 0

zhang965

@helgonet12 what’s the pb? you can walk your dog at the night i’m right?

helgonet12

@zhang965 ha ha. Yes why didn’t I think about that.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@helgonet12 there is a fix . Should come for the rest of the models as well with next release

And hopefully it really fixes also your scenario

helgonet12

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos great news. Cross my fingers it works. Thanks.

The_77

Happily the pause menu has been redesigned somewhat I see?

pavel.samokha

@The_77 Yes, new pause menu

northeast_trekker

I wonder can you still scroll through the available metrics in the pause screen? I hope that remains…also does ascent and avg pace/speed get included in these metrics in the pause screen, that would be a great add, I’ve always wished those were in that menu.

Frederick Rochette

@isazi said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

Fitness tests are available with S+ apps, also for older devices. Like othostatic test? Didn’t find it…

pavel.samokha

@Frederick-Rochette No orthostatic test yet, it is mistakenly mentioned on the website. May appear later.
There are other though, FTP, Anaerobic Threshold and so on

etienneherr

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Great video! Does S9PP have Apnea abilities as well? what is the depth limit for scuba, only 15m?

zhang965

@etienneherr said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

S9PP

It should be 10m for Apnea

isazi

I just want to take a moment to be more precise about some comments I shared before about dual frequency, as apparently Joa is being attacked in some other communities and I would not like that my comments are used there.

I am a trained computer scientist, not an antenna engineer, but worked with antennas in other fields, so I am only making the point that theoretically you can have a single antenna for L1 and L5 in this case, and do your processing in software or specialized hardware to improve the SNR of any. This does not mean that, because something can be done, it should be done. The S9PP is slightly thinner than the F7SS, and it has far superior battery life in the same settings (all systems, one frequency): 40 hours (but I usually measure more than 50) against 26. So this could be one reason why Suunto decided not to go with dual frequency for a small watch. And GPS performance of the S9PP is not bad, better than S9P in various conditions. Suunto could have also decided that the one antenna design would not have produced the performance that they expected, and they will use a two antennas approach for two frequencies in future watches. I don’t know.

Just to clarify that I do not support people mocking a company or a reviewer because of some design decision, and mine was only a technical comment on some details in this discussion, nothing more.

lexterm77

@isazi

You can post links to antenna harmonics that explain the problems of design or use simpler analogy of using all season tyre vs winter and summer or using a winter tyre in tropics.

etienneherr

@zhang965 hardware issue?

dulko79

@isazi Why do you even care? I mean this forum is really friendly and supportive. Giving us support how to make most of our products and some hints about future products. I have been following Suunto on Telegram for some time now. I started out of curiosity, but the channel is in Spanish language I do not understand. However I later discovered translate function to follow the channel more regularly. Joaquin and Raul are doing tremendous job, they are actually supporting over 800 people 24/7. From simple funny questions to more difficult ones. They are showing GPS performance comparison from different devices, explaining how to use devices with pictures and movies etc. But question whether the device is dual frequency or not, should finish with yes or no answer. And that’s it. How device works is Suunto’s know how. I believe engineers spent many hours to find optimal solutions and compromises. Most of people on forums do not know or understand how tech stuff works. They just read forums, other opinions and criticize. It is never ending toxic spiral. My point is you do not owe us anything. Each of us can read details about device on official website, reviews and decide whether the device is suitable or not. Your help to us is just bonus, additional optional service that comes with the product. I have great respect for it. Additionally, you do not buy Porsche or Samsung TV and then go discussing with their experts whether tech solutions are right or wrong. They pay engineers to do that.

Egika

@northeast_trekker said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

I wonder can you still scroll through the available metrics in the pause screen? I hope that remains…also does ascent and avg pace/speed get included in these metrics in the pause screen, that would be a great add, I’ve always wished those were in that menu.

The items in the pause screen cycle automatically. Avg speed, ascent are not in there…

freeheeler

@dulko79
very nice words towards @isazi
he’s a very good person and cares about users and the progress of the watches a lot. it’s nice to read such a pat on his back