Suunto 9 Peak Pro?

isazi

@nseslija if Garmin can do it on a small watch, with a single antenna, then Suunto can also do it. I also heard many saying that dual frequency is better because you see “twice the amount of satellites”, that is also wrong. I think it was just a design decision, maybe related to battery life (dual frequency will hurt small devices with small batteries more), or time to market, or the maturity of Sony’s dual frequency chipsets.

Dušan Ković

@isazi Thanks for detailed reply

I’m keeping fingers crossed for new updates

Tieutieu

@isazi said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

@Dušan-Ković said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

multiple S+ at the same time?

Not now, under discussion at Suunto. Could be possible with new hardware

It would be very nice to be able to add S+ screens directly in our personnalized sport modes !

I see S9PP as an awesome watch upgrade ! It as everything needed, no more, no less (I don’t want/need maps on my watch !). Reliability, robustness, durabily, usefull features, easy to use : all I expect from Suunto !

(Guess I just have to wait for a larger version to replace my S9B that works juste fine (can’t get used to S9peak display - too small for me so far)…plus I have a huge 24mm bracelets collection to use !!)

nseslija

@isazi I really don’t know about Garmin, I read it somewhere…
I can see on their site that Fenix 7x has multi-frequency positioning and 7s doesn’t has.

isazi

@nseslija for F7 and F7S, dual frequency is only available in the sapphire versions.

@isazi Suuntos single frequency much better than Garmins single frequency. So why should Suunto do it… more accuracy almost impossible that means that the benefit for Suunto is way less than Garmin because Suunto basic single frequency accuracy best.

helgonet12

@isazi so still no fix for resources bug when you do an walk activity. (Walking the dog) in the morning the resources drops to 0 or close to 0

zhang965

@helgonet12 what’s the pb? you can walk your dog at the night i’m right?

helgonet12

@zhang965 ha ha. Yes why didn’t I think about that.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@helgonet12 there is a fix . Should come for the rest of the models as well with next release

And hopefully it really fixes also your scenario

helgonet12

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos great news. Cross my fingers it works. Thanks.

The_77

Happily the pause menu has been redesigned somewhat I see?

pavel.samokha

@The_77 Yes, new pause menu

northeast_trekker

I wonder can you still scroll through the available metrics in the pause screen? I hope that remains…also does ascent and avg pace/speed get included in these metrics in the pause screen, that would be a great add, I’ve always wished those were in that menu.

Frederick Rochette

@isazi said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

Fitness tests are available with S+ apps, also for older devices. Like othostatic test? Didn’t find it…

pavel.samokha

@Frederick-Rochette No orthostatic test yet, it is mistakenly mentioned on the website. May appear later.
There are other though, FTP, Anaerobic Threshold and so on

etienneherr

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Great video! Does S9PP have Apnea abilities as well? what is the depth limit for scuba, only 15m?

zhang965

@etienneherr said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

S9PP

It should be 10m for Apnea

isazi

I just want to take a moment to be more precise about some comments I shared before about dual frequency, as apparently Joa is being attacked in some other communities and I would not like that my comments are used there.

I am a trained computer scientist, not an antenna engineer, but worked with antennas in other fields, so I am only making the point that theoretically you can have a single antenna for L1 and L5 in this case, and do your processing in software or specialized hardware to improve the SNR of any. This does not mean that, because something can be done, it should be done. The S9PP is slightly thinner than the F7SS, and it has far superior battery life in the same settings (all systems, one frequency): 40 hours (but I usually measure more than 50) against 26. So this could be one reason why Suunto decided not to go with dual frequency for a small watch. And GPS performance of the S9PP is not bad, better than S9P in various conditions. Suunto could have also decided that the one antenna design would not have produced the performance that they expected, and they will use a two antennas approach for two frequencies in future watches. I don’t know.

Just to clarify that I do not support people mocking a company or a reviewer because of some design decision, and mine was only a technical comment on some details in this discussion, nothing more.

lexterm77

@isazi

You can post links to antenna harmonics that explain the problems of design or use simpler analogy of using all season tyre vs winter and summer or using a winter tyre in tropics.