HRV on Vertical
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@Tieutieu ok merci
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@Tieutieu said in HRV on Vertical:
@ggrego les valeurs vont s’actualiser progressivement toutes seules (premières mesures après 14 jours, puis tu as la valeur moyenne des 7 derniers jours, et ensuite la plage de VFC s’actualise sur 60 jours courants)
(probably only a hard reset would also reset VFC values)
I will continue in English for more global question.
Not just for you @Tieutieu, 🤭.
Is the HR normal range calculated during the 14 first days, is also updated in case it “changes”?
Otherly said, what is “normal” for 14 days, will it stay normal forever?
I did’t really note what was my normal zone from beginning, but it seems not to have changed (which could be normal… Or not)
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@Mff73 Having read quite a lot of documentation on the Suunto site I ‘think’ it sets your ‘normal’ range during the first 14 days, and after that gives a rolling 7 day average.
I have not seen it written in the official documentation (not saying it isn’t there, but i haven’t found it yet) that your ‘normal’ range gets updated after the 14 days, although the 7 day rolling average definitely does. It would be interesting to get a definitive answer on that.
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My complaint with the current implementation is that it takes a few days for it to report a non baseline reading. I had the flu BAD and it dropped my HRV by 30 some points. The vertical picked this up but didn’t start providing any advice based on this for a 3-4 days after the initial drop
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This morning the HRV data for the last night is 25 ms on the watch, in the app 26 ms. Because of only 7 readings, there is the message “no data” on the widget. The 7 day average is equal.
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interesting conversation about hrv.
i think it is interesting to measure for trends, illness etc.
i had two days were my hrv were off and i felt tired a bit ill.
the only setback is, that the 7 day average was in the optimal range, green light and the suunto app and watch states optimal recovery.
i was not optimal recovered on the two days. so i recommend everyone to look more on the daily hrv in relation to the normal range, then to look if the 7 day average is in the normal range.
maybe it is possible that this will be represented in another way in the suunto app and on the watch in the future.t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race
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@Sebastian-Wagner-0 said in HRV on Vertical:
so i recommend everyone to look more on the daily hrv in relation to the normal range
This is what I do with the nightly average in the morning. More days with low values will bring down the 7 days average.
I remember that Garmin does it in the same way with the advice, to slow down the training on a day with a low value according to the personal feeling.
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@pilleus Yep, me too!
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@Sebastian-Wagner-0 said in HRV on Vertical:
interesting conversation about hrv.
i think it is interesting to measure for trends, illness etc.
i had two days were my hrv were off and i felt tired a bit ill.
the only setback is, that the 7 day average was in the optimal range, green light and the suunto app and watch states optimal recovery.
i was not optimal recovered on the two days. so i recommend everyone to look more on the daily hrv in relation to the normal range, then to look if the 7 day average is in the normal range.
maybe it is possible that this will be represented in another way in the suunto app and on the watch in the future.this is my same complaint
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I only see random variation in my HRV, and no trend or indication when I get sick. So between that and the inaccurate sleep tracking, I just turned it off (24/7 HR). Resting HR seems to be ok though.
I know there’s not a huge battery hit, but just felt like it was more noise.
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this are my HRV stats.
I am 66 with diabetes and hypertension. Both controlled.*Juan Alberto Garcia Rivera Mexico
Leon, MexicoSuunto X6
Polar AXN 700
Polar S710i
Galaxy Watch 7*!
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Hi everyone, I have also had consistently low HRV readings, between 17-21 on average over the last year or so.
For the past few days my HRV is steadily climbing - 37, 38, 38, 50, 58.
Has anyone else noticed a sudden change like this? -
@jshan31 the only big drop up that I have experimented was the very next night after my first 100m trail race.
Usually noticeable drops are downs, and are linked to alcohol (even few drinks have huge impact), or illness, or lack of sleep / very tired.
Have you experimented any special event lately ?Suunto’s devices at home :
Vertical titanium solar
Suunto Race S
S9pp titanium sand
Suunto Wing
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@Tieutieu i notice the exact same things.
Things that drop my HRV: illness, alcohol (a single beer can drop me several points!), stress/ bad sleep, dehydration and sometimes caffeine depending on how late.
Things that bump it up; hydration, a solid workout but not overdoing it, ZMA (zinc magnesium aspartate) and obviously restful sleep.
Typical range for me is mid 60’s to low 70’s. Last few nights been in the high 70’s/ low 80’s but I’ve been taking ZMA to recover and making sure I’m hydrated.
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Typical range for me is mid 60’s to low 70’s. Last few nights been in the high 70’s/ low 80’s but I’ve been taking ZMA to recover and making sure I’m hydrated.
70 ist high in your metrics, why then 80 is Low!? Its higher than 70. You have a Higher HRV
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@GiPFELKiND said in HRV on Vertical:
Typical range for me is mid 60’s to low 70’s. Last few nights been in the high 70’s/ low 80’s but I’ve been taking ZMA to recover and making sure I’m hydrated.
70 ist high in your metrics, why then 80 is Low!? Its higher than 70. You have a Higher HRV
American dialect, low 80’s being 81, 82, 83…
The range i have has been 77-82 the last few days.
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@babychai this normal range is individual for each one?? becose my is veri diferent!!
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@EdCaballer yes HRV is different for everyone, but some « normal values range » exist.
Like every values you could be out of the range. The younger you are the higher your hrv should be. You can easily find litterature about it.
My normal range is between 40 and 50, pretty « low » for my age (I’m 43).
I don’t really matter of numbers themselves, as my watch is not a medical device, but I look to trends and drops. For that, watch gives a pretty good tendency. -
Normal range between 40-44 here. I’m 40. No idea if it’s good or bad but I mostly care about the trend and not the absolute numbers.
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Same age, same ranges, same logic only look to trends when you have your baseline defined
