Software release 2.30.26

@GiPFELKiND that’s actually a valid point. After the upgrade it was 70% instantly and since then I have not managed to go to 0%. So when I gain resources during my sleep they are every morning close to 100%. That’s just my observation.

GiPFELKiND

@tomasbartko said in Software release 2.30.26:

@GiPFELKiND that’s actually a valid point. After the upgrade it was 70% instantly and since then I have not managed to go to 0%. So when I gain resources during my sleep they are every morning close to 100%. That’s just my observation.

yes and that is supposed to be a new Suunto internal special algorithm? I dare to doubt that… that is predictable and so reproducible… just like the lack of the correct TSB and CTL data. It’s nice that others notice what has been created here again.

jjpaz

@Frederick-Rochette Sync is working without reboot but one day later. If you verify your watch data it corresponds to yesterday data on SuuntoApp.
So tomorrow you’ll have today’s data on the watch.
Very visual feature but unusable.

The curious thing is that no tester has detected it in weeks of testing and it was reported in the Race when it was launched.

Michaël POINTEAU

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
Have I dreamed? I thought that when going to the watch activity logs, we were able to see lap table?
And no longer with the update I made today…

No really sure about that.

Stoke80

Since the update I dont get the messages when I reach my daily goals for steps and calories.

Additionally I didn‘t get the weekly summary tonight, which normally is shown at 9pm on Sunday.

And also, the function „delete all messages“ does only delete the messages on the watch, but not on the mobile.
Not sure if this is a bug or „works as designed“ ?

Jonathan C

@Michaël-POINTEAU they are now organized behind the overview screen instead of separate pages. So you will have to go to the section with “automatic laps” or “manual laps” and click the middle button to get to the tables.

gone troppo

@GiPFELKiND

I don’t understand this incoherent mumble. I’m saying the resources now reflect how I feel. They have also fixed calories burned during the exercise now much more realistic

BastMaSVSRS9PP

@gone-troppo I have same experience as you. Ressources appear to reflect much better how I feel with regard to my energy levels. This also includes how the resources look like after a bad vs good night of sleep. I agree it’s well done.

Michaël POINTEAU

@Stoke80 post update I got the weekly report.

Maryn

TSB, CTL, TSS, and other metrics in watch are one day delayed comparing to the app.

Current activity isn’t visibile in TSS chart in watch.

Suunto App beta iOS.

wmichi

Suunto has done a great job in bringing some (or maybe all?) bugs from the Race to the Vertical. And some of them are so obvious, you just cannot oversee them. The problem with TSB, CTL,… was the first thing I noticed and all I needed to “test” this, was looking at the app and the watch.

I think all of this is known to Suunto and the people testing these devices. If not, there would be something seriously wrong (I don’t think it is). Suunto simply ignored those bugs and released the update (to fix more serious bugs I guess). If known bugs are released as part of a firmware update, it would be nice if Suunto would add a “known issues” section to release notes, at least here in the forum. I think this transparency would be appreciated by users. If you release beta software, at least respect your users.

Please don’t understand this is as ranting. I have the impression, that Suunto now really started to bring their products forward with a lot of new features. For me it’s clear, that this also means more bugs. I am just asking for more transparency.

nseslija

@Jonathan-C thanks, I haven’t noticed that…

pilleus

@wmichi said in Software release 2.30.26:

If you release beta software, at least respect your users.

It would be a step into the right direction to introduce an official beta software program, so that the experiences of the users who are willing to participate could be collected and bugs could be removed. I would appreciate providing weekly snapshots of the beta firmware and would be interested to test those snapshots on my watch.

But in the current situation, I’m no longer willing to accept the bugs and to wait an indefinite period of time for improvement. That’s why I’m now sticking with my SSU, which was just as flawed when it was introduced and only became a usable watch after several updates.

Both Verticals (I wanted to choose one of the two, Solar or not) are being returned to the dealer today and I will stay tuned and follow the experiences of the users and I’m waiting now to maybe decide on one of the new watches in the future.

And last but not least, I notice an increasing rejection of justified criticism here in the forum, which I absolutely don’t like.

Maryn

@pilleus I also have an EPIX and I can say that the beta program has done a lot of good for garmin. The garmin devices at least those in the fenix/epix line really work stably and don’t have such obvious bugs.

Frederick Rochette

@jjpaz

Even the VFC is not the same…

Last night is at 105 and 106 on the App
Average is 108 and 109 on the App

I still have the TSS training load at 364, even though I’ve changed weeks (it’s wrong anyway, because I have 359 in SA for last week).
And I actually have yesterday’s data for CTL / ATL / TSB and for an update I need to do a soft reset…
I also have to recalibrate the compass, as I do several times a day
So we’re waiting for an update to solve this quickly, I hope. Will this be possible via a watch and/or SA update?
In any case, these data are not usable as they stand…

It would be great to have a response from Suunto on how to deal with these bugs.

vjakub

@Marcin-Byrtek Absolutely. I participated in Gamrin Beta programme which let you taste new features but at the same time brought some bugs. If the bugs overweighted joy of new features you could always come back to a stable version.

Likarnik

@Frederick-Rochette yes, this does not make any sense, look at these pictures:

Antoine

@Likarnik i have the same kind of problem and my training of last sunday does not appear in the first chart (TSS chart)… moreover the title is “this week” but it is the last week…

Stefan Kersting

It is a little bit funny to read about all the bugs and how wrong everything is with this update. Counting steps, calculating calories and ressources, TSB, CTL and so on. My question is who do you guys know what is right? I can’t claim that I know what is right for me. Do you all have performed a VO2 max test so that you know your metabolic status? Or is you reference Garmin that is just doing the same: using algorithms that are calculating/estimating a number based on the input every user does by its own. I mean, shit in-shit out… This watch is a kind of lifestyle product and not a med-lab instrument. All right, some functions should be improved but I think other watches have the same challenges. And do all you guys know what happens in the Garmin black box and at least that that is the “truth”…?

wmichi

@Stefan-Kersting Regarding TSS, CTL, ATL, TSB: Open SA, look at those numbers and compare it with the numbers in the watch. They are different. And if you look a little bit more closely, you will see that the watch always displays the numbers of the day before. If you do a training with the watch, the numbers on the watch are also not updated.

It’s similar with the HRV value of the last night. Sometimes the watch shows a different number than the app.

TSS, CTL, ATL and TSB is simple maths and as far as I can tell it’s correct in the app. All of this is a problem with synchronisation, not with algorithms, metabolic state or VO2max tests.