Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!
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@mikekoski490 said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:
@GiPFELKiND Isazi posted hopefully next week.
@GiPFELKiND, you already asked several times, @isazi already aswered. I guess you just have to be a little patient.
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@Tieutieu I âthinkâ @GiPFELKiND was just trying to re-frame the conversation back to his original post question after the tons of off topic rhetoric.
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@mikekoski490 said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:
@Tieutieu I âthinkâ @GiPFELKiND was just trying to re-frame the conversation back to his original post question after the tons of off topic rhetoric.
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Jee that escalated quickly. We lost NickK
The update is bound next week around the 20nth fyi
Reboots as not often but still they affect some users and thatâs bad
However I really donât understand what this conversation has to bring except some people getting furstrated and loosing their time assuming about how QA works etc. Jee
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Yeah it escalated pretty quickly, probably Iâve helped to do that
.But for me is quite annoying that people complain hard when the company (at least the people that are testing the upgrade) have said that they have found the root cause and the fix is being tested right now. If you are very angry with your product you can contact support, file a complain with the company, I do not knowâŚ
I also found quite childish to leave the forum because you have had some âhardâ discussion, but itâs a free world, isnât it?
Anyway, all this is my opinion.
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:
We lost NickK
Man down, man down!
Iâm still not sure if itâs good or bad that electronics make people so emotional.
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@cosme-costa donât feel bad about saying what you feel.
Neither should NickK which I hope he will be back
Itâs ok to have any discussion here as long as itâs polite , thatâs why itâs a community forum.
With itâs good and bad.
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@A-Former-User said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:
To make this clear: I am not working for Suunto.
I just know that there are professionals working there.
Just be assured, that all the great hints and tips posted anonymously will have absolutely no effect. You donât get my point. My point is, that your criticism is just not constructive.
And this is why it is of no use.With a statement like âthis is not acceptableâ - what would anyone here expect to happen?
Perhaps a proper QA testing cycle? A different group of QA testers that use the watch differently? Realistic deadlines for hardware and software deliveries? An open beta program like Garmin, COROS, and Apple have? An ability to report and vote on issues, like Garmin did? A statement from the company rep saying they are aware of a problem and looking into it? A timely fix?
There are a lot of things you can actually do, apart from sneeringly dismissing usersâ concerns and defensively attacking them @Egika. You havenât gotten that many users left!
- Make Suunto change their processes, because you think you know how it works better? -> really?
Well, if I were to put out a release like the Vertical, the next morning Iâd have a short chat with my boss and HR, and then security would take away my badge and escort me off the premises. Which is a big reason why I donât put out releases like that.
But hey, I only got 25 years of experience in software industry⌠What do I know?
Since you obviously believe that Suuntoâs process is fantastic and testing is top notch, could you please explain why the offline maps donât work? Or how can a broken recovery timer be missed during testing? Or why calories do not add up?
@NickK @Kk2n-Kk (so many Kâs, but you are different individuals I guess):
Imagine that! Thereâs more than one person whoâs for some reason unhappy and has K in his handle. I think we should outlaw Ks.
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No reboots for me. My watch actually records my activities without any issues, itâs never decided to restart during the middle of a run and I donât have any problems loading my maps⌠I almost feel like I am missing out on the fun
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@MiniForklift said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:
No reboots for me. My watch actually records my activities without any issues, itâs never decided to restart during the middle of a run and I donât have any problems loading my maps⌠I almost feel like I am missing out on the fun
Same hereâŚwe donât miss anything, for sure.
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I had all the fun with the reboots. I tried to fix it with a hard reset, which didnât help. So I did another hard reset. This was 10 days ago, no reboot since the second reset. I fixed the issue before Suunto. Woohooo!
Do you need a firmware developer? I know stuff like nodejs and react. A watch firmware cannot be more complicated than <Watch onReboot={doHardReset} />.
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@Tieutieu @MiniForklift Question to both of you on this: Do either of you use custom sport modes with apps or guides? Curious as I do not - Iâve only been using the stock sport modes until the next firmware update and dont really use apps or guides yet either for same reason, and I also have had no reset issues etc.
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My suunto vertical works near perfect Iâm
Kinda worried that when this hot fix come out that it might cause problems for those of us with no problems? -
@gone-troppo regressions can always happen. But I am pretty sure Suunto devs know what they are doing.
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@mikekoski490 If I may answer⌠I had reboots with default and custom sport profiles, with and without S+ apps/guides. I even had a reboot directly after a hard reset with all settings on default. After my second hard reset the watch started to work flawlessly. The only thing I changed was to turn the standby light on to drain the battery faster to 0% (for battery calibration). Still 40% to go after 10 days and 22h of activity recording.
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@mikekoski490 said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:
@Tieutieu @MiniForklift Question to both of you on this: Do either of you use custom sport modes with apps or guides?
Yes, I have a road running profile and a hills/trails profile, both of which are custom modes that I created. I do use the apps occasionally but I think itâs just the carbs/fat burner one I have used so far on my SV
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@MiniForklift Thanks!
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@wmichi Thanks!
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@mikekoski490 I also didnât have any reboots or big issues with my vertical. Just one time, the watch freezed in the watch face directly after a short test (<1min) of a new created personal sport mode. I did a soft reset. But since this, no problems n using my own sport modes and also the onboard modes. I never used a S+ app with my Vertical until nowâŚ
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@mikekoski490 said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:
@Tieutieu @MiniForklift Question to both of you on this: Do either of you use custom sport modes with apps or guides? Curious as I do not - Iâve only been using the stock sport modes until the next firmware update and dont really use apps or guides yet either for same reason, and I also have had no reset issues etc.
I always use custom sport modes for all my âusual sportsâ: trail running, cycling, MTB, hiking, climbing. I also use apps sometimes : climb, safe and weather, and also guides with structured intervals, combined with apps (climb).
I also use some stock modes.Not a single crash.
