Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!
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@tomasbartko has been there some year(s) ago.
Issues arise if priorities shift, of technical or any other reason require you to shift the objectives and deviate from plans. And you can be sure this happens.
It generates more fuss if you don’t deliver what has been communicated.
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@tomasbartko what is the percentage of Suunto users in this forum? SV was released in May, first hotfix in end of June. A lot of bugs and just one hotfix. October - new watch with new features. Majority of people do not use SA beta to se HRV is coming, do not use forum to see if bugs are acknowledged and fixed. Is SV even getting new updates when there is new kid on the block? Suunto should publish hotfixes so ‘normal’ users will see that this project is not dead and do not run away to other brands…
@jjpaz said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:
@wmichi said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:
@jjpaz Right. I am a web developer and I constantly create new releases for a website and lot’s of microservices. But I think wearables are a little bit different. There’s a lot more testing needed in the real world (what field testers do) and this takes time. So a strict agile approach maybe doesn’t work.
The bigger the software change the bigger the testing requirements.
I was working years ago as Quality Assurance testing engineer (in more critical projects than a sports watch) and it was easier test small pieces of software than a full software update with several features.
If you deploy a little software change is easier to test that isolated feature and to perform the regression tests to verify the old features are working fine.
If you deploy a whole new software update the testing requirements will be bigger and every little issue detected will create a new whole software update you must test again from beggining, until you meet the deadline and deploy the last “stable” software version (with “little” bugs not detected in the testing stage).
That’s the reason why the new watches seem “not finished” at the beggining. Development and testing resources and deadlines.Just my opinion, only Suunto knows what happens inside Suunto
True, as a dev myself I also try to fix bugs asap and publish asap. One bug at a time, one test at a time. Also when updating project libraries - you have to be up-to-date otherwise when you make a big jump in versions you can have too much to test and forget something, things become deprecated and so on…
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@Egika Yeah I am just trying to be somewhere “in the middle”, because I understand it’s difficult for the company, but also understand why people ask for that.
@Likarnik I get your point and yes, it’s jut a tiny percentage here in the forum (I assume), and it would help to build trust if people were aware… I think we would have seen the SV update sooner, if there wouldn’t be also a release of the Race basically just few months after SV was released. Hence the shift of priorities as I can only assume their resources are not limitless. Not sure how this usually works - if they have two different teams working on both products in parallel, or just one working on both… would be interesting to know.
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The response I got when I emailed about this :
Dear Paul
I hope you are well.
I have forwarded your feedback and queries to our development team so they can be assessed internally and I do thank you for bringing them to our attention.
We will definitely have updates and upgrades in the future however we do not have a clear roadmap outlined for this at this time.
Updates are hard to predict as sometimes whats necessary will take importance of an upgrade or new feature so timelines are hard to know especially this early on. But they are inevitable so we hope to get to all the features you have advised on.
If we get any new info regarding this we will update you for further clarification.
Have a lovely day and take care.
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@runomatic so Community, whats up? Since July all people speak from big coming SW update for the Vertical… Should come in November!? Guys 1/3 from November is ready… Whats going on? November 2024?
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@GiPFELKiND Well lets hope it will come soon but in general it is better if the software is as bug free as possible when it comes out rather then being rushed to market.
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@GiPFELKiND I admire the relentless pounding
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@Jonathan-C said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:
@GiPFELKiND I admire the relentless pounding
Nevertheless too much is sometimes really too much !!
If only it worked to make updates come faster !
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@GiPFELKiND I have already given you one last month but here you go, have another chill pill
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@altcmd Maybe you have to increase the dosage a little more
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you want to make sure to charge your watch over the weekend…
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@Egika said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:
you want to make sure to charge your watch over the weekend…
Shouldn’t we do a full loading cycle after the update ?
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@Tieutieu DC Rainmaker vient de poster le test de la Suunto race, en annonçant une mise a jour pour celle-ci LUNDI ( 13 nov)… avec un peu de chance, la mise a jour de la Vertical arrive dans le même wagon ! espoir !!!
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Seems that Suunto Race is getting update on Monday according DC Rainmaker review which came today. I have high hopes that we will get update to Vertical same time
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@MikkoKartano said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:
Seems that Suunto Race is getting update on Monday according DC Rainmaker review which came today. I have high hopes that we will get update to Vertical same time
@Tieutieu said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:
As long as the vertical is supposed to get the same (or close) firmware than the race, I would more likely bet that they wait for the first RACE users feedbacks.
This way they could correct maybe few bugs on the Race and have a better vertical fw release !Maybe I was not so wrong telling this !
