Suunto Vertical is here
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@Ultrawalker As a user of Titanum + Solar, i think better option for new Vertical would be non-solar titanum instead of stainless + solar. But its just my opinion and I have my solar since like 4 months, so also in my country i havent used solar so much. Sunny days just started here, but remember its only my opinion.
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Hello everyone…
I wonder that, is tracking my sleep possible, without tracking HR all day…
I mean, I dont want HR sensors operate all day… they just can be active, while I am sleeping.
I activated sleep tracking, but deactivated all day hr tracking. I just think vertical gonna activate the hr sensor when started to track my sleep. But no… following morning it says “no sleep tracking”.
So am I have to activate it every single night before go to sleep?
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@Sezer-Yiğit how do you think it knows when you are sleepig? HR is main source of sleep detection
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@Matija-S what @Sezer-Yiğit wonders, is that if daily HR tracking and sleep HR are independant.
@Sezer-Yiğit they are not. So for now you’ve undersdoot : you must activate HR tracking before going to sleep.
But my question is : why do you want daily HR off ? if for battery consumption, just understand that it has a very low impact on battery life, so I where you I would let HR tracking on.
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@Tieutieu thank you for the answer.
I wanted to turn off daily hearth tracking for two reason… without sleep tracking, daily tracking is just give me an information with “sources” widget and it has no much meaning for me.
So, thats why I dont want to use battery for this. I did not know that the daily hearth rate tracking has a minor efect on the battery. Because there is a warning in the User guide that said using hr tracker results as more battery consumption.
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@Sezer-Yiğit I have HR turned off, also sleep tracking turned off, and don’t really notice much difference on battery usage to when I had these recording.
I just don’t like wearing my watch in bed
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@Sezer-Yiğit It does uses a little extra battery, but battery life of SV is so crazy that you should not really see the difference.
As I said, pay more attention to backlight settings
(for me : backlight low, turn to raise low, standby off, main backlight off. With those settings and HR tracking H24 with HRV tracking, no SPO2, I’m around 4 to 5% of battery used a day, with no exercice)Suunto’s devices at home :
Vertical titanium solar
Suunto Race S
S9pp titanium sand
Suunto Wing
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@Sezer-Yiğit Why are you worried about the battery consumption? I have all the tracking turned on and go at two to three weeks between charging with 13-18h of GPS tracking per week.
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@Tieutieu said in Suunto Vertical is here:
@Sezer-Yiğit It does uses a little extra battery, but battery life of SV is so crazy that you should not really see the difference.
As I said, pay more attention to backlight settings
(for me : backlight low, turn to raise low, standby off, main backlight off. With those settings and HR tracking H24 with HRV tracking, no SPO2, I’m around 4 to 5% of battery used a day, with no exercice)@Tieutieu I recently changed my settings and went from charging every 10-12 days (about 8-10% daily battery discharge) with backlight medium, raise to wake high, standby off, main backlight off with 24/7 tracking of HR/SPO2
to now 23 days (4.3% daily battery discharge) by adjusting the backlight to low.
backlight settings can significantly reduce or increase battery consumption compared to any of the other settings. (thanks again @Brad_Olwin for helping me with that)
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@Tieutieu said in Suunto Vertical is here:
@Sezer-Yiğit It does uses a little extra battery, but battery life of SV is so crazy that you should not really see the difference.
As I said, pay more attention to backlight settings
(for me : backlight low, turn to raise low, standby off, main backlight off. With those settings and HR tracking H24 with HRV tracking, no SPO2, I’m around 4 to 5% of battery used a day, with no exercice)Yes this settings just like mine… and as you said, I have similar daily consumption.
@Brad_Olwin said in Suunto Vertical is here:
@Sezer-Yiğit Why are you worried about the battery consumption? I have all the tracking turned on and go at two to three weeks between charging with 13-18h of GPS tracking per week.
In fact I am not worried. Just if I dont need, why am I have to use it? At the end, it has a negative effect whole battery life, I thought… and I just wonder is it possible to do it just as I said… but you are right to ask this, when it is about vertical’s battery life
@Todd-Danielczyk said in Suunto Vertical is here:
@Tieutieu said in Suunto Vertical is here:
@Sezer-Yiğit It does uses a little extra battery, but battery life of SV is so crazy that you should not really see the difference.
As I said, pay more attention to backlight settings
(for me : backlight low, turn to raise low, standby off, main backlight off. With those settings and HR tracking H24 with HRV tracking, no SPO2, I’m around 4 to 5% of battery used a day, with no exercice)@Tieutieu I recently changed my settings and went from charging every 10-12 days (about 8-10% daily battery discharge) with backlight medium, raise to wake high, standby off, main backlight off with 24/7 tracking of HR/SPO2
to now 23 days (4.3% daily battery discharge) by adjusting the backlight to low.
backlight settings can significantly reduce or increase battery consumption compared to any of the other settings. (thanks again @Brad_Olwin for helping me with that)
Do you have any idea about completely dark screen (without in sports mode) in daily use, about battery consumption?
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@Sezer-Yiğit I would estimate it closely to what Suunto specifications are at 30 days with 24/7 HR tracking. Based on how I have mine set up and getting 23 days, completely dark (raise to wake off) should be able to get another 7 days’ worth of battery and HR on. I haven’t been utilizing the solar portion since I have been testing the backlight discharging.
The time only at 60 days seems true, but I would just wear a dedicated watch at that point if that is what I was interested in.
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Updated review:
https://youtu.be/W7ndXp1lSNs?si=1w5mYc9AeV4ZEruW -
Hello !
I currently own the first version of the Apple Watch.
I run on average 10-12hrs a week. My coach and I use Final Surge as a platform for obtaining my workouts and results.
I have two questions. The first is, given my usage pattern… Basic watch for most of the time and 10-12hrs of outdoor running. As a ballpark figure, how many days do you think I can go without needing to charge ? With my Apple Watch Ultra, I can go a day and a half… often less as I stream podcasts and music via LTE. I wouldn’t obviously be doing this with the Suunto.
Final question is, is there a way to at least upload my runs to FinalSurge ? My coach doesn’t use the workout builder functionality… just just types in the workout as text… I then program that into my watch. But, I do want to at least be able to upload my run to FinalSurge.
Thanks !
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@shampoo Hi, so from my experience, I am charging probably once every two weeks with almost everyday GPS usage (1-2 hours) and two activities longer than 5 hours. I have everything on, using maps etc.
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@Zdeněk-Hruška Thanks !
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@shampoo said in Suunto Vertical is here:
Hello !
I currently own the first version of the Apple Watch.
I run on average 10-12hrs a week. My coach and I use Final Surge as a platform for obtaining my workouts and results.
I have two questions. The first is, given my usage pattern… Basic watch for most of the time and 10-12hrs of outdoor running. As a ballpark figure, how many days do you think I can go without needing to charge ? With my Apple Watch Ultra, I can go a day and a half… often less as I stream podcasts and music via LTE. I wouldn’t obviously be doing this with the Suunto.
I do very similar, about 15 hours on average. With all notifications on, HR tracking sleep etc I normally charge once a week. The battery is never near empty.
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@Audaxjoe Thanks
What I like about the Apple Watch Ultra is that I don’t have to bring a phone. If my wife needs to call me, I am available… Back around Christmas, I got injured with IT Band syndrome 10km’s away from home and I was able to call a cab and pay for it with my watch… So I have to decide if this convenience is worth it when compared to the battery life. It"s not so much that I have to charge it often, it’s that I have to always plan ahead if I have enough better for the run… If I stream music during say a 1h45 minute run, I can go through 70% battery… So I basically have to be sure I have that much… I would just like to not have to think about it so much.
Are you all bringing your phones with you ? Cash ? Or you’ll just figure it out when/if you get injured on a run ?
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@shampoo personally I’d just carry my phone, in a waist pouch thing, I don’t notice it is there. I’d also go out without my phone!
But I have never had a full on “smart” watch.
Choice you make I guess.With the Vertical you would not notice the battery drain on an hour and a half run.
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@shampoo I also bring my phone in a belt pouch or in my shorts when they have pockets. For music I bring my wings.
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Hello, long time lurker here. I finally got myself Vertical Solar, after watching and reading every review and discussion about it I felt I knew exactly what to expect. Still, a few things surprised me I wanted to share after one day of use and testing.
The Good
Not to repeat what is known - the build quality is great, weight is spot on, watch looks awesome … What surprised me is how comfortable it is. I have very small wrists, yet it is MUCH more comfortable than my previous Garmin Instinct. I even wore it during night and it was perfectly fine. I did not expect that - magic, but it works! If someone has small wrists and is unsure, I’d suggest this will not be an issue. Also buttons are just amazing. Battery is fantastic - with my usage (and with settings: brightness medium, standby off, raise to wake low, HR on) it dropped 1% after one day. Weird, but I’m not complaining!The bad
USB-A charging cable in the box felt … legacy? Dated? I know we’re not saving much of the environment since the magnetic puck is proprietary, but I can barely find a USB-A charger in my household and it’s going to be worse going forward. Mixed feelings.Then I tried setting up wifi to download maps, and for whatever reason it only saw every wifi of my neighbors except mine. It took me a long while to figure out that WPA3 authentication was the problem. Once I switched it to WPA2, it found the WiFi network and it worked. I don’t think it’s a big deal, I’m obviously not happy I had to downgrade security of the network, but I don’t like that it was the gotcha and not documented anywhere that I’ve seen. This is a really good article on setting up WiFi https://www.suunto.com/en-gb/Support/faq-articles/suunto-app/how-can-i-download-offline-maps-to-my-suunto-watch/ which mentions issues with 5Ghz and networks with captive portal as common pitfalls. Since WPA3 is mandatory on routers since 2020 and people should really be using that, I think this could be improved.
The Ugly
I expected the UI lag, but it still surprised me. It’s not great at all (yes on latest firmware), and it took away quite a bit of excitement and joy from the new watch. I can see why some people not expecting it might be very disappointed. My current plan is to just get used to it until I don’t notice it - after all, it does not affect functionality, only user experience.Lastly, once I downloaded maps, I quickly noticed that in my area near my home there are four perfectly straight lines running through the map:
I scrolled the map for a long time, it looks like they connect to some road in distant city on one end, and abruptly end in a field on the other end. Other than that, these four lines seem to run perfectly straight through any terrain across the whole region for dozens if not 100+ kilometers. I reported this to support, they advised to delete and redownload the map, which did not resolve the issue. Then they advised to check online maps to see if these are not roads - I wasn’t offended by that request, people report weird things, but sadly that’s not the case either. I haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere yet, I hope that it will be fixed now that it’s properly reported to support. If there’s anything I can to to help debug this, I’d love to help. This left me with very mixed feelings at the end of my first day with watch.So that’s it, I am unfortunately sick and couldn’t take it out for sports yet, but looking forward to making friends with my new Vertical
Lastly, thanks for being a great community, it was one of the factors for the buy!Watch: Suunto Vertical (titanium solar canyon)
