Suunto 9 Peak Pro?

[A Former User]

Like the new UI very much!
There is no disadvantage to larger S9B Display!
Same size of numbers and better readability!
Well done!

What I really do not like is OHR!
Highly inaccurate for me personally.
First hike today with S9B and smart sensor on the other wrist.
I couldn’t feel any improvement from S9P.
Little disappointing.

Again this is really depending for sure on personal individual circumstances.
I made superior OHR experiences with 945LTE.
So it is possible.
There has to be some thing on all Suunto OHRs what disqualifies OHR of watch for certain persons…
Is it missing, failing calibration, depth of measurements, … why watch works not for all?

Edit: Interesting thing is that running, cycling was very good S9P. But hiking mountaineering very bad. Same on S9PP for now. Also without poles. Maybe hiking cadence lock? It could also be something that has to do with hiking movement…

Maybe I hope there will be some SW improvement…

[freeheeler]

@mountainChris
I did a run today with S9B connected to Verity Sense and Grit X Pro… hell of a disappointment for the Grit X Pro for HR measurements!!

do you mind sharing an overlay of the 2 graphs?

[A Former User]

@freeheeler yes. Is there a freeware tool to overlay?

[freeheeler]

@mountainChris
I use quantified-self.io for this… you can upload json files and merge them for direct comparison

[Kurt68]

I’m pleasantly surprised at the battery life. It’s only a first short impression but in 24 hours the S9PP lost 7% battery. In the same time with the same use, the Fenix ​​7x 11%. I was not expecting that.

[A Former User]

For now I have no account for quantified-self.
But difference can also seen for now on SA screenshots.
In the middle I took off S9PP because of climbing down and up again.

First is S9B with Smart Sensor.
Second S9PP.
Especially hiking ascent values way too low.
I almost never had comparable values for 5 hours.
Only few times close together.
This behavior I know very well from S9P.

Average HR from SA during first 5km ascent (before climbing) was:
S9B with smart sensor: 122bpm
S9PP: 101bpm

@mountainChris said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

Like the new UI very much!
There is no disadvantage to larger S9B Display!
Same size of numbers and better readability!
Well done!

What I really do not like is OHR!
Highly inaccurate for me personally.
First hike today with S9B and smart sensor on the other wrist.
I couldn’t feel any improvement from S9P.
Little disappointing.

Again this is really depending for sure on personal individual circumstances.
I made superior OHR experiences with 945LTE.
So it is possible.
There has to be some thing on all Suunto OHRs what disqualifies OHR of watch for certain persons…
Is it missing, failing calibration, depth of measurements, … why watch works not for all?

Edit: Interesting thing is that running, cycling was very good S9P. But hiking mountaineering very bad. Same on S9PP for now. Also without poles. Maybe hiking cadence lock? It could also be something that has to do with hiking movement…

Maybe I hope there will be some SW improvement…

[freeheeler]

@mountainChris
ok, no need for an overlay… it looks very different!
it’s good to compare and get a picture about the behavior. I used to have issues with the chest belt, too.
so we can not for 100% what’s right or wrong.
of course for optical HR it is important that the watch sits snug on the wrist

[A Former User]

@freeheeler
It did.
Have the new Smart Sensor, which works very well for me.
During cycling and flat running I saw almost the same values S9P vs. S9B (with smart sensor) this year.
Hiking never worked.
And can’t be that HR is falling during ascent or has this low levels.
On 945LTE I had always almost same values this year during hikes as Smart Sensor.

I more and more believe it has to do with the hiking movement, which is not as steady as running, and how watch deals with it.

[freeheeler]

@mountainChris
how’s running and cycling then with S9PP?

[A Former User]

@freeheeler did not try… but would guess very good as S9P

[Simon]

I think, there is not the one HR sensor that fits all. For me, there’s not a chance any built-in oHR of any watch will work. Too skinny And for a chest belt, I’m often not sweating enough, probably. But the Polar Verity Sense has always been spot on - loving it. And it’s easy enough to check manually when in doubt. Just try what works for you… Anyways, I have never seen a reliable and accurate built-in sensor so far.

[A Former User]

@Simon right for me in general. Thats why I was shooked how accurate S9P was for steady running, unfortunately not hiking. For hiking with 945LTE my values were almost same as smart sensor. But I thought this way before.

Also skinny arms. For smart sensor I use gel on colder days which works fine for me.

Those huge gaps are not understandable for hiking / mountaineering activity / movement and I wish that Suunto could check this and improvement would be welcome.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

Can anyone please confirm that the display doesn’t interfere with polariser glasses? That it doesn’t dim when looking at it up front?

[freeheeler]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel
it doesn’t at all

[Egika]

@taziden this is about calibrating the internal accelerometer to your running style.
It helps when running indoors.
Second time because the fist time was either not long enough or GPS quality not good enough for the calibration to finish

[mikekoski490]

@freeheeler Oh thats good. The S9P and Coros watches got kinda messed up when I wore my polarized Oakleys.

[mikekoski490]

@Simon I agree that you need a chest strap or armband OHR for good HR readings. I have always used a chest HRM with Garmin/Polar/Suunto/COROS and the odd time for fun have tried to do a workout without one and just use the wrist OHR, and its pretty bad. Hiking was generally OK though. I think wrist OHR is good for daily HR checks (for sickness or over training) and sleeping tracking.

[mikekoski490]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel Ill double check when I eventually receive my Ti Slate in Vancouver, Canada…shipped from Finland on Oct. 25th DHL express and was supposed to arrive Oct. 28…but it then went to Germany, then The Netherlands where it was put on hold for some unknown reason for 3 days, then went back to Germany for further processing, now apparently its somewhere in the U.S. getting some customs clearance…

[Mff73]

@freeheeler said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

@mountainChris
how’s running and cycling then with S9PP?

Did a cycling today, and OHR was not just inaccurate, but totally wrong.
I will post comparison from this S9PP session and Suunto SmartSensor HR values soon.

[zhang965]

It looks I can save some money now.