Suunto 9 Peak Pro?

freeheeler

@mountainChris
ok, no need for an overlay… it looks very different!
it’s good to compare and get a picture about the behavior. I used to have issues with the chest belt, too.
so we can not for 100% what’s right or wrong.
of course for optical HR it is important that the watch sits snug on the wrist

@freeheeler
It did.
Have the new Smart Sensor, which works very well for me.
During cycling and flat running I saw almost the same values S9P vs. S9B (with smart sensor) this year.
Hiking never worked.
And can’t be that HR is falling during ascent or has this low levels.
On 945LTE I had always almost same values this year during hikes as Smart Sensor.

I more and more believe it has to do with the hiking movement, which is not as steady as running, and how watch deals with it.

freeheeler

@mountainChris
how’s running and cycling then with S9PP?

@freeheeler did not try… but would guess very good as S9P

Simon

I think, there is not the one HR sensor that fits all. For me, there’s not a chance any built-in oHR of any watch will work. Too skinny And for a chest belt, I’m often not sweating enough, probably. But the Polar Verity Sense has always been spot on - loving it. And it’s easy enough to check manually when in doubt. Just try what works for you… Anyways, I have never seen a reliable and accurate built-in sensor so far.

@Simon right for me in general. Thats why I was shooked how accurate S9P was for steady running, unfortunately not hiking. For hiking with 945LTE my values were almost same as smart sensor. But I thought this way before.

Also skinny arms. For smart sensor I use gel on colder days which works fine for me.

Those huge gaps are not understandable for hiking / mountaineering activity / movement and I wish that Suunto could check this and improvement would be welcome.

Łukasz Szmigiel · S9PP 2.37.48

Can anyone please confirm that the display doesn’t interfere with polariser glasses? That it doesn’t dim when looking at it up front?

freeheeler

@Łukasz-Szmigiel
it doesn’t at all

Egika

@taziden this is about calibrating the internal accelerometer to your running style.
It helps when running indoors.
Second time because the fist time was either not long enough or GPS quality not good enough for the calibration to finish

mikekoski490

@freeheeler Oh thats good. The S9P and Coros watches got kinda messed up when I wore my polarized Oakleys.

mikekoski490

@Simon I agree that you need a chest strap or armband OHR for good HR readings. I have always used a chest HRM with Garmin/Polar/Suunto/COROS and the odd time for fun have tried to do a workout without one and just use the wrist OHR, and its pretty bad. Hiking was generally OK though. I think wrist OHR is good for daily HR checks (for sickness or over training) and sleeping tracking.

mikekoski490

@Łukasz-Szmigiel Ill double check when I eventually receive my Ti Slate in Vancouver, Canada…shipped from Finland on Oct. 25th DHL express and was supposed to arrive Oct. 28…but it then went to Germany, then The Netherlands where it was put on hold for some unknown reason for 3 days, then went back to Germany for further processing, now apparently its somewhere in the U.S. getting some customs clearance…

Mff73

@freeheeler said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

@mountainChris
how’s running and cycling then with S9PP?

Did a cycling today, and OHR was not just inaccurate, but totally wrong.
I will post comparison from this S9PP session and Suunto SmartSensor HR values soon.

zhang965

It looks I can save some money now.

Kurt68

I had an OHR test today. The Garmin with chest strap and the S9PP with OHR. I’ve seen better ones but you can make up your own mind. But the watches are pretty much in agreement about the distance.

https://quantified-self.io/user/diADq2nerESCkHAzB06aiagM9lc2/event/MRR3XktKslzLE5gTZVth

freeheeler

@Kurt68
thank you for sharing. if we ignore this main spike it doesn’t look soo bad actually really good

…no idea why this helpful post received a down vote

@Kurt68
Running works very good for me too. Do you have hiking / mountaineering experiences with OHR S9P or S9PP or someone else?

Kurt68

@mountainChris hiking doesn’t work for me with OHR at all. Probably because of the hiking poles? I test this very rarely but I usually use a chest strap.

Kurt68

I put the S9PP and the Fenix 7x into operation on Saturday at 6 p.m. with 100% battery. As of today Fenix 78% Suumto 87%. Unbelievable what Suunto gets out of such a small and light watch.

@Kurt68 Thanks, as I posted also my experience. With poles or without poles the same. Also on warmer days. There are watches out there that are capable of that. Think from HW standpoint S9PP could do this, but I more and more think it is not really applied in SW in a way that works for many users, unfortunately. Could have something to do with more various unsteady movement than running. Just a guess. Hope S9PP gets more love to this. Hiking, speed hiking, mountaineering is a big group of activity of users… And for me also Suuntos home town (for example Suunto’s bench fused alti)