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    NO GOOD DATA ASCENT (AND DESCENT)

    Suunto 9
    baro ascent problem
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    • Matteo ZambenedettiM
      Matteo Zambenedetti
      last edited by

      Re: GPS altitude meter
      Hi everyone, I have a 9 Baro and a problem with measuring the ascent (and descent). The difference with the real one is around 15%, what is the solution?

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      • freeheelerF
        freeheeler @Matteo Zambenedetti
        last edited by

        @matteo-zambenedetti
        could be several reasons… it’s in-depth discussed in here already 😉
        check if the graph recorded has unrealistic spikes (down and up again). if so: the baro holes were covered.
        other reasons could be dirty sensor, manual calibration before the activity or wind gusts during stormy weather.
        we’ll find out if you share the graph or the link to your activity with us 👍

        freeheeler switched to flipflops

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        • isaziI
          isazi Moderator @Matteo Zambenedetti
          last edited by

          @matteo-zambenedetti we need to look at the route before anyone can answer 🙂

          Watch: Suunto Vertical (titanium solar canyon)

          Blog: isazi's home

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          • Matteo ZambenedettiM
            Matteo Zambenedetti @isazi
            last edited by

            @isazi I try to senso It. Hiking_2022-06-19T02_32_03.fit

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            • isaziI
              isazi Moderator @Matteo Zambenedetti
              last edited by

              @matteo-zambenedetti also, does it measure more or less than you expect?

              Watch: Suunto Vertical (titanium solar canyon)

              Blog: isazi's home

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              • Matteo ZambenedettiM
                Matteo Zambenedetti @isazi
                last edited by

                @isazi much more. In this track the real ascent is about 1500 MT, 9 Baro says about 3000 MT…this morning, real about 500, 9 Baro about 650

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                • freeheelerF
                  freeheeler @Matteo Zambenedetti
                  last edited by

                  @matteo-zambenedetti
                  and the graph doesn’t match the topographie of the recorded track if I’m not completely wrong. but it doesn’t exactly look like the sensor was covered.
                  did you calibrate the altitude manually just before the activity?

                  freeheeler switched to flipflops

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                  • Matteo ZambenedettiM
                    Matteo Zambenedetti @freeheeler
                    last edited by

                    @freeheeler yes, both times. Do I have to reset It?

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                    • freeheelerF
                      freeheeler @Matteo Zambenedetti
                      last edited by

                      @matteo-zambenedetti
                      no… next time: don’t touch it 🙂 if alti is completely wrong, just start your activity. FusedAlti will calibrate it for you and will do it also throughout the activity when it compares to gps alti and detects it’s shifting

                      freeheeler switched to flipflops

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                      • Matteo ZambenedettiM
                        Matteo Zambenedetti @freeheeler
                        last edited by

                        @freeheeler OK I will do. A question: Does Fusedalti start automatically when I start my Activity?

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                        • isaziI
                          isazi Moderator @Matteo Zambenedetti
                          last edited by

                          @matteo-zambenedetti yes, during the first 15 minutes.

                          Watch: Suunto Vertical (titanium solar canyon)

                          Blog: isazi's home

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                          • Matteo ZambenedettiM
                            Matteo Zambenedetti
                            last edited by

                            Good morning everyone,
                            I return to the subject to post some files to better explain my problem.
                            First of all, I don’t understand why SUUNTO does not provide software for pc but only apps for android (or mac) …
                            So, this is the screenshot of my hike according to the data of my 9 Baro and the app Suunto Screenshot_Suunto.jpg in my phone

                            ASCENT 3168MT!!! UNREALISTIC!!!

                            and this is the screenshot of the same track but downloaded on Openrunner softwareScreenshot Open Runner.jpg

                            ASCENT 1368MT!!! REALISTIC!!!

                            and this is the track.gpssuuntoapp-Hiking-2022-06-19T00-32-03Z-track.gpx

                            can anyone help me to understand and solve the problem?
                            what is the exact procedure to follow before starting a hike or a bike ride?

                            I apologize if I can’t answer right away but I’m working and I don’t have much time

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                            • André FariaA
                              André Faria Bronze Member @Matteo Zambenedetti
                              last edited by

                              @matteo-zambenedetti what is the problem?
                              If you start higher than 1800m, and climb till 3200…at least roughly: 3200-1800=1400.
                              You have some other climbs on the graph, but also, you start higher than1800, so I can’t understand where is the issue.

                              Suunto Ambit 3 Peak|Garmin FR965|Garmin Edge 1040 Solar|iOS

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                              • cosme.costaC
                                cosme.costa @Matteo Zambenedetti
                                last edited by

                                @matteo-zambenedetti Can you also share the ascent graph in the Suunto phone app?

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                                • Matteo ZambenedettiM
                                  Matteo Zambenedetti
                                  last edited by

                                  the problem that openrunnere says I climbed 1368 meters (correct) while summarized says that I climbed 3168 meters (wrong)

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                                  • Matteo ZambenedettiM
                                    Matteo Zambenedetti
                                    last edited by

                                    the .gps track that posted before cannot be opened?

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                                    • cosme.costaC
                                      cosme.costa @Matteo Zambenedetti
                                      last edited by

                                      @matteo-zambenedetti I understand that the watch says the same than the Suunto app, am I right?

                                      I want to see if the ascent graph from the watch has spikes, so it means that for some reason the baro sensor has been blocked (skin, jacket, wind,…) and for that reason you have higher ascent than expected.

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                                      • Matteo ZambenedettiM
                                        Matteo Zambenedetti @cosme.costa
                                        last edited by

                                        @cosme-costa I understand what you mean. I therefore report the profile of my excursion: you will notice that there are no peaks.
                                        However, if there were, Openrunner would have had to show me the same rise as Suunto. My problem is why was my 9 baro wrong?
                                        Screenshot_2022-07-05-17-06-02-08_b14a9358fd6881e7ef1642d19c4cec95.jpg

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                                        • freeheelerF
                                          freeheeler @Matteo Zambenedetti
                                          last edited by

                                          @matteo-zambenedetti
                                          because of several small spikes that I can already see without zooming in… maybe the other platform filters it by default? Strava filters by request

                                          freeheeler switched to flipflops

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                                          • Matteo ZambenedettiM
                                            Matteo Zambenedetti @freeheeler
                                            last edited by

                                            @freeheeler Does your 9b the same?

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                                            • freeheelerF
                                              freeheeler @Matteo Zambenedetti
                                              last edited by

                                              @matteo-zambenedetti
                                              yes, when the wrist strap is too tight and baro holes seal on wet skin, it catches wind gusts or wet garment is covering the baro holes…
                                              check with your next activity and a bit looser wrist strap ✊

                                              freeheeler switched to flipflops

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                                              • Matteo ZambenedettiM
                                                Matteo Zambenedetti @freeheeler
                                                last edited by

                                                @freeheeler Ok thanks, I will try this week-end.

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                                                • cosme.costaC
                                                  cosme.costa @Matteo Zambenedetti
                                                  last edited by

                                                  @matteo-zambenedetti As @freeheeler says, you can see the small spikes that are adding ascent. The shape of the profile is quite correct as it is the min and max height, but during the activity it has been adding small ascent. And as it has been said probably because the baro sensor has been blocked.

                                                  I only have had this situation once and it was because it was raining and I was wearing the watch over my membrane jacket and the jacket blocked intermittently the baro sensor.

                                                  BTW, in which hand were you wearing the watch? Did you use poles? I ask this because this could increase the chances of blocking the sensor.

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                                                  • Oliver ZambergerO
                                                    Oliver Zamberger
                                                    last edited by

                                                    I’ve the same problem here (Suunto 9 baro). Most times when i start the descent, it adds more and more meters to ascent (real ascent was about 1100 m and real descent was 1900 m; at the end of the activity I had 3300 m (!)

                                                    Weather was stable; not much wind, barometer was free… but anyways… the watch is made for outdoor sports; or not?

                                                    The climbing activity is complete useless. After a few minutes there are unrealistic ascents and descents of several 100 meters.

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                                                    • freeheelerF
                                                      freeheeler @Oliver Zamberger
                                                      last edited by

                                                      @Oliver-Zamberger
                                                      please share your alti graph

                                                      freeheeler switched to flipflops

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