Direct drive indoor trainer

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Bulkan didn’t run gap fix those issues?

Dwartus

Hello Dimitrios,

Does Rungap has an issue to sync activity from Zwift to Suunto App ??

Thanks

Bulkan

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos yes, all the issues are solved, even one where the temperature wrong. Now works pretty well. The “issue” is if you use zwift or any other app for virtual cycling right now there isn’t any watch which use the data of zwift (speed, ascend…) while you are riding. Is not and issue for me because I transfer the fitfile from training peaks to SuuntoApp with RunGap.

@Dwartus if you want a web service to summarize everything I recommend you quantied-slef, works pretty well and you can have all the data which is in the watches.

johann.fuehrer

@Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:

@johann-fuehrer I have read your other topic.
Your smart trainer Tacx Neo is able to send Power, Cadence and Speed by Bluetooth ?

Yes, and Garmin and Polar Devices catch up all of them

Your S9Baro is able to catch Cadence and Speed from the Tacx Neo by using paire a « Bike POD » ?

Thanks

Yes. But no Power, although it is found as PowerPod when I attach search for devices, when starting the workout, no connection is made anymore… Same for A3. Seems to be a BT issue.

What I want is: Power, Speed, Cadence and Distance from the trainer. I was not able to configure this with any Suunto device (A2, A3, S9B) but even my old V800 makes it. And I’m not even talking about parallel connection to the computer for Zwift, Rouvy, Sufferfest or whatsoever! All other stuff was disabled, turned off and out of reach (needed for STRYD pod which can mess up your setting because of being on always )

Dwartus

@Bulkan thank you for information.
Does « Quantified self » can be use as Movescount was (history of activities, tags, training effect performed by FirstBeat or other (TSS as example) ?

Do you have a short comparaison of rungap//quantifed self ?
Is it same functionnalities ?

thanks

I created a new topic within Spartan regarding smart trainer and data sync not possible.
But lots of interest things on this topic, thanks to all !!!
Are you able to delete the new topic in Spartan group ?

johann.fuehrer

@Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:

@Bulkan thank you for information.
Does « Quantified self » can be use as Movescount was (history of activities, tags, training effect performed by FirstBeat or other (TSS as example) ?

Do you have a short comparaison of rungap//quantifed self ?
Is it same functionnalities ?

thanks

I created a new topic within Spartan regarding smart trainer and data sync not possible.
But lots of interest things on this topic, thanks to all !!!
Are you able to delete the new topic in Spartan group ?

Hello, I think for QS @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos would be THE source of knowledge You will find out, why…

Dwartus

@johann-fuehrer I think a smart trainer (Tacx, Wahoo, …) will send Power, Cadence and Speed but not a distance, the distance will be calculate by device (watch or GPS), isn’t it ?

It’s really strange because the Wahoo Kickr core, send also Power, Cadence and Speed (receive by Wahoo app and Garmin), with A2 and Spartan I can’t receive Cadence and Speed, but Power is possible. And you is clearly the opposite…

Do you know if Suunto work on this issue ??

johann.fuehrer

@Dwartus No idea if Suunto is seeing this even as an issue or is working on a fix. Distance could be calculated if a wheel size (virtual) is configureable for such trainers and the watch will do so. Never will be like in real live, but as a rough estimation it would be ok…

Dwartus

@johann-fuehrer Your S9Baro is 2.12.30 software version ??
I’m always thinking of buying a S9Baro …

johann.fuehrer

@Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:

@johann-fuehrer Your S9Baro is 2.12.30 software version ??
I’m always thinking of buying a S9Baro …

Yes, it was…

Bulkan

@johann-fuehrer I recall something about the bluetooth of the Neo smart, about the broadcasting of all the data via bluetooth but I didn’t find it to bring it here. That problem with ant+ isn’t there. What you can try is cable which converts the ant+ signal to bluetooth.

I own the version 1 of the Neo and I don’t paired the Suunto to the trainer, I use zwift. I prefer to have all the info and I enjoy it more. At the beginning I recorded in the suunto as a indoor cycling but unpaired to the trainer… but I don’t do it anymore.

About QS it doesn’t have TSS. If you want training load, check out runanalyze or Strava free account with the extension called elevate in Chrome.

Dwartus

Hello, thanks for information regarding Quantified Self, I will have a look on the dedicate post, and also try to create an account to play with.

Regarding the main topic, that the watch (A2 or Spartan or Suunto 9) doesn’t catch all signals comes from smart trainer (Power, speed and cadence), does someone of Suunto teams can give support here or maybe give timeline to solve it ??

Unfortunately, Garmin and Polar catch all signals form smart trainer.

Thank you

isazi

@Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:

Regarding the main topic, that the watch (A2 or Spartan or Suunto 9) doesn’t catch all signals comes from smart trainer (Power, speed and cadence), does someone of Suunto teams can give support here or maybe give timeline to solve it ??

Better contact Suunto directly for that. Have you asked support?

Dwartus

@isazi Yes, I’ve done two phone call and one email traffic -> no answer.
At the second phone call, Suunto support say me that “they never tested Wahoo and Tacx with Suunto”.
Sorry, but I don’t know really if they understand sometimes…

Does someone here work in Suunto R&D departement or something like that ??

Thanks

isazi

@Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:

Does someone here work in Suunto R&D departement or something like that ??

I am aware of two Suunto developers (app and backend I guess) in the forum. Not sure if any firmware developer is here.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

So I raised this issue.

I am not sure when this can be improved to be honest but now the R&D + PO teams are aware of this. Thank you

Dwartus

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos thank you for your help.
Do you know if Suunto confirm this trouble or will work on it ? or just they received claim ?

As you know I’m in a way to buy a Suunto 9, but I would like to know if this issue will be solve or not before buy it… (I have other question task to be check as example disable the wrist HR definitevly to avoid battery consumption during day working, compatible H10/TickrX, …)

Thank you

isazi

@Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:

(I have other question task to be check as example disable the wrist HR definitevly to avoid battery consumption during day working, compatible H10/TickrX, …)

You can disable 24h heart rate monitor, and H10/TickrX heart rate monitor are compatible, but if you are interested in more discussion about these topics search the forum or write a new post

Dwartus

@isazi Thank you, Yes it’s the idea to find correct topics about.

Dwartus

Hello,

I saw the Software update 2.13.18 released.
But it seems not to be concern the issue of this topic

Do you have an idea of the reason ??
Does this topic is really take into account ?

Thanks