Direct drive indoor trainer
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@Dwartus I did try with my a Tacx Neo, does not work: neither With Ambit 2, Ambit 3 or S9 BARO. There is always some data missing (ether RPM or Power). I have used two other brands, they do work (V800 + Vantage, Fenix 6).
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Hi,
I use Zwift, I gave up to use the Suunto connected to trainer, which is possible without a problem, but I want the data of zwift in Suunto app.
So I use Rungap app (iOS) to transfer the fit file to suunto app, now it transfers the fitfile with the info of ascend/descend and distance of zwift, which it didn’t math with the distances and ascend of the Suunto connected to the trainer, this is not a problem of Suunto, at this point the virtual cycling and running doesn’t get very well with watches. In some brands (in s7 you have an app for that) you can broadcasts your pulse but the distance and elevation never math.
Sometimes I want to track in the watch the hours so I use the ant+ to the trainer and the bluetooth connection to the Suunto watch, but later I delete the workout in suunto app and upload the fitfile.
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@johann-fuehrer Thanks for your answer. In fact I use an Ambit2, I also have an Spartan (my wife).
With Ambit2 and Spartan, as you confirmed, I can’t received/paired the speed data from my smart trainer (Kickr Core). I can receive power data (by paire Power Pod) and receive RPM data (by paire Cadence POD). I tried to receive speed by using Bike POD, but not possible.
From my side I tried with Garmin 520+ of a friend, and magic it’s work very well (power, RPM and speed), I also can set the gearbox, in short it’s great !So, you confirm that is not possible with Suunto watch (either Ambit2, nor Spartan, nor Suunto9 Baro) to receive speed data from a smart trainer ??
I will read your topic link, thanks !!
@Bulkan I also can connect my Suunto to smart trainer, but not receive speed data. I want to have speed data (even if doesn’t match with the virtual ride due to descend speed and so on…), because I want to have a total distance of the activity in Suunto App. My real tracking is done on Suunto App (before on the perfect Movescount).
I will have a look on the Rungap app (iOS), does it exist also website ??
I’m thinking to buy Suunto9 Baro since 6montsh, but due to this “issue” compare to Garmin, and the end of Movescount, I will thnik again
Thank you
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@Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:
So, you confirm that is not possible with Suunto watch (either Ambit2, nor Spartan, nor Suunto9 Baro) to receive speed data from a smart trainer ??
I have tried really hard for getting A2, A3 and S9B work, I did not make it for all data (Speed, Distance, Cadence, Power) on this watches. For Spartan I cannot tell as I had one but could not try with my trainer, as I sold it for the S9B.
BR
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@johann-fuehrer I have read your other topic.
Your smart trainer Tacx Neo is able to send Power, Cadence and Speed by Bluetooth ?Your S9Baro is able to catch Cadence and Speed from the Tacx Neo by using paire a « Bike POD » ?
Thanks
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@Bulkan didn’t run gap fix those issues?
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Hello Dimitrios,
Does Rungap has an issue to sync activity from Zwift to Suunto App ??
Thanks
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos yes, all the issues are solved, even one where the temperature wrong. Now works pretty well. The “issue” is if you use zwift or any other app for virtual cycling right now there isn’t any watch which use the data of zwift (speed, ascend…) while you are riding. Is not and issue for me because I transfer the fitfile from training peaks to SuuntoApp with RunGap.
@Dwartus if you want a web service to summarize everything I recommend you quantied-slef, works pretty well and you can have all the data which is in the watches.
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@Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:
@johann-fuehrer I have read your other topic.
Your smart trainer Tacx Neo is able to send Power, Cadence and Speed by Bluetooth ?Yes, and Garmin and Polar Devices catch up all of them
Your S9Baro is able to catch Cadence and Speed from the Tacx Neo by using paire a « Bike POD » ?
Thanks
Yes. But no Power, although it is found as PowerPod when I attach search for devices, when starting the workout, no connection is made anymore… Same for A3. Seems to be a BT issue.
What I want is: Power, Speed, Cadence and Distance from the trainer. I was not able to configure this with any Suunto device (A2, A3, S9B) but even my old V800 makes it. And I’m not even talking about parallel connection to the computer for Zwift, Rouvy, Sufferfest or whatsoever! All other stuff was disabled, turned off and out of reach (needed for STRYD pod which can mess up your setting because of being on always
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@Bulkan thank you for information.
Does « Quantified self » can be use as Movescount was (history of activities, tags, training effect performed by FirstBeat or other (TSS as example) ?Do you have a short comparaison of rungap//quantifed self ?
Is it same functionnalities ?thanks
I created a new topic within Spartan regarding smart trainer and data sync not possible.
But lots of interest things on this topic, thanks to all !!!
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@Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:
@Bulkan thank you for information.
Does « Quantified self » can be use as Movescount was (history of activities, tags, training effect performed by FirstBeat or other (TSS as example) ?Do you have a short comparaison of rungap//quantifed self ?
Is it same functionnalities ?thanks
I created a new topic within Spartan regarding smart trainer and data sync not possible.
But lots of interest things on this topic, thanks to all !!!
Are you able to delete the new topic in Spartan group ?Hello, I think for QS @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos would be THE source of knowledge
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@johann-fuehrer I think a smart trainer (Tacx, Wahoo, …) will send Power, Cadence and Speed but not a distance, the distance will be calculate by device (watch or GPS), isn’t it ?
It’s really strange because the Wahoo Kickr core, send also Power, Cadence and Speed (receive by Wahoo app and Garmin), with A2 and Spartan I can’t receive Cadence and Speed, but Power is possible. And you is clearly the opposite…
Do you know if Suunto work on this issue ??
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@Dwartus No idea if Suunto is seeing this even as an issue or is working on a fix. Distance could be calculated if a wheel size (virtual) is configureable for such trainers and the watch will do so. Never will be like in real live, but as a rough estimation it would be ok…
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@johann-fuehrer Your S9Baro is 2.12.30 software version ??
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@Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:
@johann-fuehrer Your S9Baro is 2.12.30 software version ??
I’m always thinking of buying a S9Baro …Yes, it was…
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@johann-fuehrer I recall something about the bluetooth of the Neo smart, about the broadcasting of all the data via bluetooth but I didn’t find it to bring it here. That problem with ant+ isn’t there. What you can try is cable which converts the ant+ signal to bluetooth.
I own the version 1 of the Neo and I don’t paired the Suunto to the trainer, I use zwift. I prefer to have all the info and I enjoy it more. At the beginning I recorded in the suunto as a indoor cycling but unpaired to the trainer… but I don’t do it anymore.
About QS it doesn’t have TSS. If you want training load, check out runanalyze or Strava free account with the extension called elevate in Chrome.
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Hello, thanks for information regarding Quantified Self, I will have a look on the dedicate post, and also try to create an account to play with.
Regarding the main topic, that the watch (A2 or Spartan or Suunto 9) doesn’t catch all signals comes from smart trainer (Power, speed and cadence), does someone of Suunto teams can give support here or maybe give timeline to solve it ??
Unfortunately, Garmin and Polar catch all signals form smart trainer.
Thank you
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@Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:
Regarding the main topic, that the watch (A2 or Spartan or Suunto 9) doesn’t catch all signals comes from smart trainer (Power, speed and cadence), does someone of Suunto teams can give support here or maybe give timeline to solve it ??
Better contact Suunto directly for that. Have you asked support?
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@isazi Yes, I’ve done two phone call and one email traffic -> no answer.
At the second phone call, Suunto support say me that “they never tested Wahoo and Tacx with Suunto”.
Sorry, but I don’t know really if they understand sometimes…Does someone here work in Suunto R&D departement or something like that ??
Thanks
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@Dwartus said in Direct drive indoor trainer:
Does someone here work in Suunto R&D departement or something like that ??
I am aware of two Suunto developers (app and backend I guess) in the forum. Not sure if any firmware developer is here.
