Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!

zhang965

@johann-fuehrer
it’s why I have all 3 flagship

freeheeler

@zhang965
you’re a collector, not a hunter?
if I buy another flagship I get rid of the one I like less… same with skis, bikes and boards

but what does the community think of pro’s and con’s of s9b and a3p?
I know some things about s9b and I know a3p pretty well I think (even though I’m new to navigation and never used poi and structured intervals YET(!!)).
let’s put SA and MC in brackets, we know that s-line is SA and ambit MC and it will not change.

zhang965

Why flagship is not a part of pro?
I’m working in a crowded client site, we have to make friends and set up our teams, wearing a flagship is always a good way to go,
When you meet an ambit guy, I could say it’s a wise decision
Meet an ssu guy I could share my experience to tell him upgrading is not necessary.
Meet an fenix guy we could have a drink to cheers we are flagship guys

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

WHR -> Perhaps for those that want to know 24/7 data, although I understand that atm you can only see it on the watch which is kinda not complete.
And running sometimes at hot temps (that it works well) without a strap and having then later that tan line (Strap user here)

zhang965

What you are not a geeky sport guy but a luxury boi? I have too wrists, my another hand has a mechanical watch

pilleus

Con: Ascent and total ascent not that accurate as Ambit 3 and Spartan Ultra
Con: GPS+GALILEO shows a good track, but although the speed during an activity is constant it changes permanently with peaks in both directions, high and low
Con: OHR not usable while cycling or kayaking, because of false readings

zhang965

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

WHR -> Perhaps for those that want to know 24/7 data, although I understand that atm you can only see it on the watch which is kinda not complete.
And running sometimes at hot temps (that it works well) without a strap and having then later that tan line (Strap user here)

For me the WHR cannot be a con

johann.fuehrer

@zhang965 To be the “flagship” product is no quality definition for the product itself, especially for some user groups of. It’s a marketing term. I’s not “negative” or “positive” to be the flagship product, but it has the meaning, that this is (for now) the company’s “best” and “way leading” product.

zhang965

@pilleus said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

Con: OHR not usable while cycling or kayaking, because of false readings

I don’t get it, OHR is not the only option right? It has chest belt as solution right? Has Dimitrios Threaded you with a gun to use ohr ?

johann.fuehrer

@zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

WHR -> Perhaps for those that want to know 24/7 data, although I understand that atm you can only see it on the watch which is kinda not complete.
And running sometimes at hot temps (that it works well) without a strap and having then later that tan line (Strap user here)

For me the WHR cannot be a con

And free speech (and the forum rules) allows you to say so!

zhang965

@johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

@zhang965 To be the “flagship” product is no quality definition for the product itself, especially for some user groups of. It’s a marketing term. I’s not “negative” or “positive” to be the flagship product, but it has the meaning, that this is (for now) the company’s “best” and “way leading” product.

Of course it has quality definition, how about to call s5 as flagship ?

pilleus

@zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

It has chest belt as solution right?

Of course I can use a chest belt. But my Mi Band 4 is able to show the correct heart rate with OHR during cycling. 35 Euro vs. 500 Euro.

zhang965

@pilleus said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

@zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

It has chest belt as solution right?

Of course I can use a chest belt. But my Mi Band 4 is able to show the correct heart rate with OHR during cycling. 35 Euro vs. 500 Euro.

But your xiaomi has no gps nor baro ?

johann.fuehrer

@zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

@johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

@zhang965 To be the “flagship” product is no quality definition for the product itself, especially for some user groups of. It’s a marketing term. I’s not “negative” or “positive” to be the flagship product, but it has the meaning, that this is (for now) the company’s “best” and “way leading” product.

Of course it has quality definition, how about to call s5 as flagship ?

Maybe a misunderstanding: I’m sure that each companies flagship product should have also outstanding quality, but the combination of features!!/price!/quality!! and the business orientation define for a company which product they position as their “flagship” product. The flagship product shall tell the costumer which is the way the company is going to and which product is the manifestation of this way right now

zhang965

I agree with you about you the ohr on s9 is a totally joke but it’s just an option

johann.fuehrer

@zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

I agree with you about you the ohr on s9 is a totally joke but it’s just an option

… but built in and charged … and part of this special model which we are talking…

pilleus

@zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

But your xiaomi has no gps nor baro ?

This is not the point. A 500 Euro watch should be able to read the heart rate on the wrist as it is possible with a cheap fitness tracker.

zhang965

What’s the point? They even don’t put firstbeat features on s9 which is. 500euros watch , s3 5 have these features!

They don’t care

freeheeler

@zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

ohr on s9 is a totally joke but it’s just an option

I would use ohr as an option only and would rely on the chest strap at first… at least until ohr convinced me that it is better… but with gloves skiing, I can imagine ohr meets its limits…

freeheeler

@zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

They don’t care

they want you to buy the entire s-line