Training Peaks - interval notification
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The Guide provided workouts are completely in the hands of the folks that create the Guides. In this case Training Peaks. So those are to blame to not include an interval counter somewhere…
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@2b2bff This has been discussed here multiple times already, and you might be right. But it feels like TrainingPeaks doesn’t really care about what we submit as end users. It’s clearly not a priority for them. Maybe the Suunto community is just too small for them?! I honestly think it would be much quicker if Suunto pushed this directly with TrainingPeaks. I can’t imagine these two companies aren’t in communication.
In the meantime, feel free to upvote it on TP:
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@2b2bff how can it be then that there is different behavior between two watches syncing the same planned workout from the same platform?
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@stromdiddily the guides are offered from the third Party, in this case TP. As @egika writes, TP has to provide the proper guides.
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@2b2bff how can it be then that there is different behavior between two watches syncing the same planned workout from the same platform?
Is this really the case? What watches? What different behaviour?
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@2b2bff how can it be then that there is different behavior between two watches syncing the same planned workout from the same platform?
Is this really the case? What watches? What different behaviour?
my enduro 3 has an entire screen dedicated to “up next” which will show the interval number you’re on, how much is left and what is planned next…all from the same planned training peaks workout that folks here are claiming is not a suunto problem
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@stromdiddily I think the main difference is that on Garmin structured intervals is likely a native feature that 3rd party platforms can plug into directly while in the case of Suunto 3rd party platforms have to go through Suunto+ Guides API where they become responsible for how the data is represented on the watch. Essentially it is Training Peaks that translates their structured workouts into guides and pushes guides to Suunto, and then Suunto is not really in control of how these guides are presented to users.
In the last month I have been using Training Peaks extensively with Suunto, including following structured workouts every day. I agree with many issues mentioned in this thread. Also, I looked at Suunto+ Guides API and find it somewhat limiting for what can be done with it. It does support a small number of predefined layouts and predefined performance fields or performance targets, but the lap number is not one of them from what I can see. There is a small text field at the top - perhaps that could be used to show the step number, but that field doesn’t seem to have a lot of space in the layout. I may be wrong, but perhaps before Training Peaks can update the guide generation to include the step number, Suunto has to make the API a bit more flexible.
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my enduro 3 has an entire screen dedicated to “up next” which will show the interval number you’re on, how much is left and what is planned next…all from the same planned training peaks workout that folks here are claiming is not a suunto problem
So, now we are not talking about different watches, but different watch makes. This is like pulling the same GPX into different map apps and asking why there is a different UX among those.
Garmin just has a different approach to it. With Garmin all workouts look the same, no matter what platform created the workout. With Suunto and SuuntoPlus Guides there is way more flexibility what can be done. And with great power comes great responsibility, so they say…
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@2b2bff I was only responding to the post that this was a training peaks “issue”. @sky-runner is likely right about the way that the different brands handle the planned workouts.
Forcing training peaks into a suunto created framework when there was already an established method and then calling it a training peaks problem, is a bit disingenuous
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@stromdiddily there is no universal “This is a workout file, deal with it watch” format. If you are pushing a workout to Garmin, you define the steps. If you push the workout to Suunto, you define a SuuntoPlus Guide. I don’t know how Coros or Apple Watch does handle it.
So, Training Peaks - or any other platform for that matter - has to include the respective framework for each brand individually…The other way around, if you read the finished activity from the watch, there is a format that has been widely adopted: Garmin FIT files.
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@stromdiddily there is no universal “This is a workout file, deal with it watch” format. If you are pushing a workout to Garmin, you define the steps. If you push the workout to Suunto, you define a SuuntoPlus Guide. I don’t know how Coros or Apple Watch does handle it.
So, Training Peaks - or any other platform for that matter - has to include the respective framework for each brand individually…The other way around, if you read the finished activity from the watch, there is a format that has been widely adopted: Garmin FIT files.
I see, this makes sense…thank you
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