Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4)
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@t-Dox said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):
@wakarimasen said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos No worries - these things happen. Mistakes in surgery (for example) and issues with new firmware affecting the HRM on a watch that is used for non-professional sports activities, are quite clearly different things
I donāt quite understand the connection with surgical errorsā¦ but as a software developer, I can only agree that errors in our industry can happen and that itās not always the developersā fault. Often whatās missing is testing and review work that should be done after development but that, either to cut costs or to stay on schedule, isnāt done.
Some mistakes are more important than others
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More information regarding Verticalās broken control panel. I used to be able to reproduce it with soft reset or by powering off, but I just found out that it had broken again āall by itselfā without either of these boot actions. So apparently the symptom can surface even after being ok for a couple of days. I wish I knew what triggered it this time. Annoying, but not as serious as OHR problems.
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@BrunoH I have also observed that sometimes even after self-repair the control panel fails again to display correctly.
I still donāt know what causes this broken display.I agree with you @BrunoH, this is not as critical as the OHR issue, but I would still appreciate a fix.
I decided to switch access to control panel from bottom or up button to middle button (pinned widget). No display issue so far.
Maybe rendering a widget via bottom or upper buttons differs from rendering a widget via the middle button (pinned widget).
Buttons shortcuts can be configured to access a functionality (flashlight, alarm clock, do not disturb, ā¦) or a widget. Middle button can be configured to access a pinned widget only (not a functionality).Maybe I am wrong. I donāt know. But I share my experience if it can help Suunto to identify the cause of the issue.
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@sebchastang thanks for the tip, this workaround works!
Maybe I am imagining things but it is like thereās a delay before the carousel appears.
Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
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8 days ago I updated my S9PP and SV. S9PP I use for sleep tracking and as daily watch. Until today in the morning without the problems caused by the update.
In the morning I stood up at 04:54 h and went back to bed at 04:57 h. The heart rate in Suunto app shows a short peak and at the moment it goes down the measuring stopped. No heart rate, no sleep tracking for the sleep until 07:45 h.
I reinstalled the last working firmware stored in the watch to be sure things will work as expected.
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@BrunoH This is not your imagination
I also noticed a ā2-stepā loading of the control panel widget. Top of the widget is loaded first (battery %, date), then the bottom part (menu) is loaded after a short delay.
I have also noticed this delay while loading the logbook display that I used to set as pinned widget. The weekday vertical bars were loaded, then came the filling of these bars (according to your training) after a short delay. -
@wakarimasen said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):
@t-Dox said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):
@wakarimasen said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos No worries - these things happen. Mistakes in surgery (for example) and issues with new firmware affecting the HRM on a watch that is used for non-professional sports activities, are quite clearly different things
I donāt quite understand the connection with surgical errorsā¦ but as a software developer, I can only agree that errors in our industry can happen and that itās not always the developersā fault. Often whatās missing is testing and review work that should be done after development but that, either to cut costs or to stay on schedule, isnāt done.
Some mistakes are more important than others
that for sure, but in surgery the same procedures have been practiced for years, it is a much more repetitive job, there are always more people (and eyes) involved in the same operation (anesthetist, surgeon, nursesā¦) and it is much more difficult to make a mistake. For this reason it seems to me a bit of a risky comparison. In software there is a constant evolution, new libraries and frameworks every year and usually the developer works alone, so it is much easier to make mistakes
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Hi there. Since there doesnāt seem to be a timetable of when the official return to the last Software Version will take place, is there a guide how to manually ādowngradeā to 2.37.48?
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@t-Dox said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):
@wakarimasen said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):
@t-Dox said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):
@wakarimasen said in Software update 2.39.20 (2024 Q4):
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos No worries - these things happen. Mistakes in surgery (for example) and issues with new firmware affecting the HRM on a watch that is used for non-professional sports activities, are quite clearly different things
I donāt quite understand the connection with surgical errorsā¦ but as a software developer, I can only agree that errors in our industry can happen and that itās not always the developersā fault. Often whatās missing is testing and review work that should be done after development but that, either to cut costs or to stay on schedule, isnāt done.
Some mistakes are more important than others
that for sure, but in surgery the same procedures have been practiced for years, it is a much more repetitive job, there are always more people (and eyes) involved in the same operation (anesthetist, surgeon, nursesā¦) and it is much more difficult to make a mistake. For this reason it seems to me a bit of a risky comparison. In software there is a constant evolution, new libraries and frameworks every year and usually the developer works alone, so it is much easier to make mistakes
For sure - pick whichever analogy which suits you, that essentially sends the message that:
- worse things happen at sea
- there is no sense crying over spilt milk
Happy Christmas everyone
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@RoSko Yes, I found this :
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BTW, apart from the bug with OHR, the S9PP has other bug or weird behaviour, which comes from old firmwares.
One of them - why does the watch turning of the screen even during the charging?
Also graphical bug with āResourcesā.
And resources still doesnāt update automatically on many watchfaces. Some watchfaces are bugged. For example the āRaceā one shows empty calories scale (not always, but most of the time). Same watch face cannot fit the word āResourcesā, instead writting something like āResourā¦ā. Other watchfaces are also problematic. You cannot see HR on them (if you chose it from complications), once watch are locked.And my favourite - bug in swimming, I wrote too many times about:
https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9533/swimming-problems-s9pp?_=1735054260795 -
Charging the watch after this update is a real problem. When I plug the watch in nothing happens, this morning I had to do 4 or 5 soft resets and a couple of power on/off and it finally started charging. Usually nothing happens when you connect the charging cable, occasionally it shows the charging screen on the watch but the battery percentage doesnāt increase
Itās a real PITA is Iām honest, donāt know if this is a noted issue or just me
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
I hear a lot of talk about the problems with the PP, but not so much about the race.
Iām having similar issues with my Race, my main issue is irregular sleep tracking, and in the last two nights I have no sleep tracking whatsoever!
I really donāt know what to do about it, it is really frustrating. I send the logs but would like a suggestion how to overcome the problem.Been with a Suunto on my wrist since Ambit2
Currently alternating between Race titanium & Vertical titanium solar.
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@peegee I have a similar issue on my Race S. Any suggestions are welcome!
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@Jan-Van-de-Velde Strange, no issues with my Race S. Daily Heartrate, Sleep Tracking and battery lifetime like before
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@Triumph114 Thanks! That worked just fine!
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@peegee With the Race, sleep tracking also stopped from one day to the next. Deactivating and reactivating sleep tracking solved the problem for me.
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Sleeptracking stopped again tonight after 4:46h sleep. So did oxymeter. Only reboot fixed it.
But now system menu is gone too. I use the bottom button as a shortcut like other do.
At least I have a Christmas Tree
ļø as a watchface.To be honest, Suunto, please make it possible to BETA TEST your software before scheduling a release.
Iām in the gov IT business and know how it feels when the head of a ministry suddenly comes out of the
. It took some time but we managed to not role out such obvious bugs for years now just by getting really hard nut software testers 
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@Ecki-D Suunto does extensively beta test, if you read a few posts down you will find this issue was caused bt something else.
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Hello.
I have a Vertical ti.
The sleep registered by the watch is correct, but the one mentionned in the Suunto app is not correct. Itās like the app only registered the sleep after my first wakeup (bathroom ;))
Is there a log I could send to someone ?
Regards,
T
