ZoneSense S+ Drain vs Solar Charging

[stromdiddily]

26.5 hour effort in Arizona on a clear day at 5.5k feet of altitude. Pretty much the ideal environment for the solar charging on my vertical solar.

Watch Settings
Custom Trail Run activity (no auto lap notifications)
No notifications
Route enabled (no TBT)
Suunto ZoneSense app
Suunto External HRM

Started at 92%, ended at 41%

Well below the stated 90 hour life that I should have with charging enabled.

@Brad_Olwin do you see similar types of drain on your vertical over these kinds of efforts w ZoneSense enabled?

[halajos]

@stromdiddily I ran an ultra with my Suunto Race last weekend, used ZoneSense to control intensity, and the battery estimate I’ve got is better than the official statement for the Race. See the screenshot below.

[Brad_Olwin]

@stromdiddily No, I do not. I have not done a long run but a 2h run with ZoneSense the estimated battery was 112h (lots of sunshine).

[stromdiddily]

@Brad_Olwin said in ZoneSense S+ Drain vs Solar Charging:

@stromdiddily No, I do not. I have not done a long run but a 2h run with ZoneSense the estimated battery was 112h (lots of sunshine).

Thanks for the response.

Here is my solar activity, race starting at 5am Saturday but picked up hardly anything

Wore sun sleeves during the day but the watch was exposed the entire time.

[sartoric]

@stromdiddily
Did you try a soft reset ?
that graph doesn’t always really refresh by itself

[stromdiddily]

@sartoric said in ZoneSense S+ Drain vs Solar Charging:

@stromdiddily
Did you try a soft reset ?
that graph doesn’t always really refresh by itself

The graph is pretty indicative of solar picked up based on 50% battery loss in 26 hours. But I’ll try a reset

[stromdiddily]

@sartoric said in ZoneSense S+ Drain vs Solar Charging:

@stromdiddily
Did you try a soft reset ?
that graph doesn’t always really refresh by itself

Well, I’ll be…soft reset to these values…

So something within my activity settings smashed my battery life

[Brad_Olwin]

@stromdiddily Suunto has been and is investigating potential battery drain issues. I think most of that was fixed in the last release. However, I have two Vertical watches, one running Fieldtest firmware and one production (that I purchased myself). Prior to the update I was having battery drain on my production vertical and I am still comparing to ensure that my battery drain issues were fixed.

[stromdiddily]

@Brad_Olwin said in ZoneSense S+ Drain vs Solar Charging:

@stromdiddily Suunto has been and is investigating potential battery drain issues. I think most of that was fixed in the last release. However, I have two Vertical watches, one running Fieldtest firmware and one production (that I purchased myself). Prior to the update I was having battery drain on my production vertical and I am still comparing to ensure that my battery drain issues were fixed.

Oh interesting, I’ve been following those threads but thought it was specific to post activity drain.

Thanks for the update @Brad_Olwin !

[Likarnik]

@stromdiddily I had 20h ultra over weekend, ZoneSense S+ and loaded route for navigation. Watch used roughly 33% during that time. 10h zero sun (night), 5h sun/shade and last 5h almost entirely on sun, shining from left, my watch is also on left hand.

[stromdiddily]

@Likarnik said in ZoneSense S+ Drain vs Solar Charging:

@stromdiddily I had 20h ultra over weekend, ZoneSense S+ and loaded route for navigation. Watch used roughly 33% during that time. 10h zero sun (night), 5h sun/shade and last 5h almost entirely on sun, shining from left, my watch is also on left hand.

60 hour estimated life…ZoneSense and Route navigation are not a good combination it appears

[Brad_Olwin]

@Likarnik I have not tested a long run with production firmware on the Vertical. My longest will only be 3-6h but I will try this upcoming weekend. On field-test firmware I have used both ZoneSense and a route with good battery life results.

[VoiGAS]

@stromdiddily My experience - with the Race S - was that the maps need a lot of additional battery power. Did you use them or just the route?

[stromdiddily]

@VoiGAS said in ZoneSense S+ Drain vs Solar Charging:

@stromdiddily My experience - with the Race S - was that the maps need a lot of additional battery power. Did you use them or just the route?

Really only pulled it up if there were questions about intersections, didn’t happen that often.

Was on the ZS screen for the vast majority of the run but I do also have a distance to next waypoint field configured on a screen I used a bit. Maybe that also sucks some additional power?

[Brad_Olwin]

@stromdiddily I have used ZS with a Route on field test firmware and had excellent battery on the Vertical. No issues that I could see. I hope that this is solved but as I said, I will test again. I used the maps occasionally but had the vertical on the ZS screen most of the time.

[Mauerwegler]

@stromdiddily said in ZoneSense S+ Drain vs Solar Charging:

Was on the ZS screen for the vast majority of the run but I do also have a distance to next waypoint field configured on a screen I used a bit. Maybe that also sucks some additional power?

I cannot imagine that the distance to next waypoint field (which I have as well) consumes much battery: the watch has to obtain the GPS position anyway, computing the distance between waypoint and current position can’t be that expensive. Just my feeling, I might miss some nasty detail …

[stromdiddily]

@Brad_Olwin said in ZoneSense S+ Drain vs Solar Charging:

@stromdiddily I have used ZS with a Route on field test firmware and had excellent battery on the Vertical. No issues that I could see. I hope that this is solved but as I said, I will test again. I used the maps occasionally but had the vertical on the ZS screen most of the time.

Look forward to your results. Hopefully this is part of the greater “battery issue” or whatever